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Old 02-18-2003, 12:02 AM   #1
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Girls Gone Wild owner is worth 100 million

On tv show "extra" they just showed a segment of the girls gone wild founder...he's 29, has a personal jet and a ferrari, and they said he is worth 100 million. Not bad
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Old 02-18-2003, 12:05 AM   #2
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i'm slowly catching up
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Just from the Girls Gone Wild empire? Or was he involved in other ventures too?

As you know, most of the multi-millionaires in this industry were rich before they got into the game.
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Old 02-18-2003, 12:11 AM   #4
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Just from the Girls Gone Wild empire? Or was he involved in other ventures too?

As you know, most of the multi-millionaires in this industry were rich before they got into the game.
yeah, they didnt specify. of course im sure if the guy had told them he was worth 500 million, they would have taken his word for it(their a step above the tabloids)

but considering how long GGW has been around and the kind of brand they have built with the mainstream audience, it wouldnt suprise me if he was worth 100 million.
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no - he made it all from GGW. i read a big article about him recently in a mainstream media article - i **think** it was the LA Times but i can't find it right now....
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no - he made it all from GGW. i read a big article about him recently in a mainstream media article - i **think** it was the LA Times but i can't find it right now....
Hmmm. If that's true, then it's a testiment to the power of cable television advertising.

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Hmmm. If that's true, then it's a testiment to the power of cable television advertising.

yeah, they did it right, thats for sure
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once again proves its not just a nice video and homepage its marketing skills too
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I hate that show "extra" ..... I cant stand the bullshit they report, half the time they just try to take old stories and add new spins....

Or the always constant headlines like


Brad Pitt kisses busty blonde............................................ .......... IN HIS NEW MOVIE........ blah blah blah....
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his parents own a pharmaceutical company.
see, thats just unfair...being born rich, and then staying rich
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has he made the GGW feature film that he was talking about ?
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I hate that show "extra" ..... I cant stand the bullshit they report, half the time they just try to take old stories and add new spins....

Or the always constant headlines like


Brad Pitt kisses busty blonde............................................ .......... IN HIS NEW MOVIE........ blah blah blah....
haha
true, true
I was switching between that and Leno...they had Bill Maher on...I love that guy
He's got a new show coming up...can't wait
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haha
true, true
I was switching between that and Leno...they had Bill Maher on...I love that guy
He's got a new show coming up...can't wait
Bill Maher has a new tv show comming on soon? Really?
When, which network..same type of format as P.I?
Loved that show!
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Bill Maher has a new tv show comming on soon? Really?
When, which network..same type of format as P.I?
Loved that show!
yeah, its coming on friday...He said it'll be opposite Leno in the same time slot, so I am guessing it'll be ABC?

from the sound of his interview, I don't think he has changed much since hes show got banned, so thats good. He was as angry as ever, calling SUV drivers terrorists, and defending Michael Jackson...haha
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I might believe that the whole Girls Gone Wild videos have made $100 million in revenue, but there is a difference between revenue and profit. I doubt he has $100 million in his bank account.
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I am sick of my freeloading roomates and their girlfriends, So i just took my direct tv dish from the living room into my room, I dont see why I should have ordinary cable in here when all the "guests" can watch the good stuff, they should be suprised tommorow .. I guess this is phase 1 of strictly american TV for the rest of my life
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I am sick of my freeloading roomates and their girlfriends, So i just took my direct tv dish from the living room into my room, I dont see why I should have ordinary cable in here when all the "guests" can watch the good stuff, they should be suprised tommorow .. I guess this is phase 1 of strictly american TV for the rest of my life

Put cams in there bedrooms. Free loading roomates can make $$ haah
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Old 02-18-2003, 12:39 AM   #19
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I might believe that the whole Girls Gone Wild videos have made $100 million in revenue, but there is a difference between revenue and profit. I doubt he has $100 million in his bank account.
perhaps...I remmeber hearing a while ago that he has a partner?

But the guy has a private Jet, they showed it briefly, it looked very nice, it's prolly a 15 million dollar jet...so he has to be right up there
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once again proves its not just a nice video and homepage its marketing skills too
There is a saying;

"Build a better mousetrap and the world will beat a path to your door"

The first thing we were taught in selling was that is BULLSHIT, it was done 30 years ago and the man died penniless.

Why? He forgot to tell any one!!!

The secret of success is having a good product, that is slightly different from the rest, displaying it well, then.................













Marketing the hell out of it, how do you think Rank Xerox, IBM and Microsoft made their money? They had all three, + a bit of exclusivity.

And why do you think I keep showing you pictures of my girls....
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I might believe that the whole Girls Gone Wild videos have made $100 million in revenue, but there is a difference between revenue and profit. I doubt he has $100 million in his bank account.
I dont agree or disagree but I learned a long time ago that its hard to figure out whats revenue whats profit someones got, how many times have you seen business go belly up that you thought are raking in extreme profits etc. you never know what and how else revenue comes into that biz or what expenses are really involved etc.

just figured ill say this
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Ofcourse he has 100 million
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robf, i seem to remember that about his parents...but i believe he did make it on his own. the article i read talked about a GGW video he has shot with Eminem that is coming out, and as already mentioned some sort of GGW movie ala Porkies or American Pie...
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But the guy has a private Jet, they showed it briefly, it looked very nice, it's prolly a 15 million dollar jet
They mention in quite a few articles that it is a Gulfstream.
That is nice.
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he's Ferrari is silver though, same color as Brad Shaw's...so obviously the guy has some issues
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dude sold $93 million worth of videos last year alone - and i bet his margins are pretty high...
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i can just dream about what could have been if i had parents with money. when i was 17 i was living on my student loan money from univeristy heh
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They mention in quite a few articles that it is a Gulfstream.
That is nice.
what model they go from 2mil to 50mil
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i can just dream about what could have been if i had parents with money. when i was 17 i was living on my student loan money from univeristy heh
parents with money mean nothing my family is extremly wealthy and my dad would not give me anything other then advice
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dude sold $93 million worth of videos last year alone - and i bet his margins are pretty high...
shit, that sounds insane...You would think their sales would be coming down due to the fact everyone with cable TV has already been exposed to it and the emergence of the net

Where did you get this figure? it seems high, but it's possible I guess
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parents with money mean nothing my family is extremly wealthy and my dad would not give me anything other then advice
funny, sounds like my parents, except the part about them being wealthy
My parents have never given me anything in life...I started working at 14 years old to have some spending money.
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parents with money mean nothing my family is extremly wealthy and my dad would not give me anything other then advice
so true...
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shit, that sounds insane...You would think their sales would be coming down due to the fact everyone with cable TV has already been exposed to it and the emergence of the net

Where did you get this figure? it seems high, but it's possible I guess
you have to also remember a big part of his customers are older men too
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shit, that sounds insane...You would think their sales would be coming down due to the fact everyone with cable TV has already been exposed to it and the emergence of the net

Where did you get this figure? it seems high, but it's possible I guess
Just take a look at the guys from bumfights... $7 mil off Internet sales - I don't think they had any cable ads running all night every night...

I would say that number is right...
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this just goes to show again the power of marketing. being able to brand and sell your shit.
we all know that those fucken tapes are worthless, content wize (most of it hooribly shot with a stupid Sony 4Watt light). hell.. most webmasters i know shoot better shit than that for god sake.
but this mofoka made it happen though. gotta give him props for that. amazing, nevertheless.
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parents with money mean nothing my family is extremly wealthy and my dad would not give me anything other then advice
That's not totally true. The fact that your parents have money and success means more than just what they give you financially. It also relates to what you grew up believing was possible from your life. It means, too, that you had certain opportunities that people with different lives did not have.

I'm not saying that GGW or Bill Gates don't deserve respect for what they've done, but you have to realize that things do have context.
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http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/ent...es/5170377.htm
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Just take a look at the guys from bumfights... $7 mil off Internet sales - I don't think they had any cable ads running all night every night...

I would say that number is right...
$93 million revenue off of video sales, at $20 a pop, thats 4,650,000 videos sold last year
that seems high to me...but assuming that was their sales, you have to assume that their sales is on a down trend....which means they have sold so much more in previous years

but if that figure is true, this guy has to be worth more than 100 mil, unless he pissed it all away or lost alot in the market
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Same here... oh wait, he said 100 Million DOLLARS... as in US dollars.

I am worth 100 Million alright.... in Chuck E Cheeze tokens
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$93 million revenue off of video sales, at $20 a pop, thats 4,650,000 videos sold last year
that seems high to me...but assuming that was their sales, you have to assume that their sales is on a down trend....which means they have sold so much more in previous years

but if that figure is true, this guy has to be worth more than 100 mil, unless he pissed it all away or lost alot in the market
Um GGW videos recurr
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His name is Joe Francis and his dad is the President of mandalay Pictures and he is the president of Mandalay Direct.

Met him a few times
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I watched the original GGW video, and I've never seen anything so boring in porn before. At first its kinda cool, but after 15 minutes it's boooring....same old thing over and over. Girl lifts shirt, shows boobs for 2 seconds and thats it, next! same thing, next! same thing, next!
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Um GGW videos recurr
yeah, my bad, I just figured that out now. But, how long has GGW been around? a few years, right? I would still say their sales are prolly on a downward trend(you dont recurre for 3 or 4 years)...you have tp discount the other factors, such as overexposure, emergence of internet, increased broadband availability, greater accesibility to hardcore pornography, etc.
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he owns mantra entertainment, they release like banned on tv shit, now i just saw something for blind date uncensored. they use recurr billing tactics to make their money. studied their operations in detail..

we too have something up our sleeve..
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http://www.wrestlingtribune.com/Samp...0-351-p01.html

most of the time when someone blows up like this they have the backing and knowledge.
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most of the time when someone blows up like this they have the backing and knowledge.
Its all tied in with Mandalay Pictures I bet they don't want it to get out. And yes I know this for a fact
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Its all tied in with Mandalay Pictures I bet they don't want it to get out. And yes I know this for a fact
well, that shatters my dreams of coming up with the next GGW
You mean I got to get New Line Cinema behind me Roger???
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he owns mantra entertainment, they release like banned on tv shit, now i just saw something for blind date uncensored. they use recurr billing tactics to make their money. studied their operations in detail..

we too have something up our sleeve..

...he didn't make all that money selling VHS tapes. They rebill the shit out of you when you buy a tape..they keep sending and sending and sending and its tuff to charge material goods back. All they have to do it show proof that it was delivered and ya fucked. Most people don't go thru the trouble of sending the shit back
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hehe lol - i've seen that in print before too- at least i remembered where this time!

per the LAWeekly...

The Mandalay Connection
by Dan Cox


LINKS BETWEEN THE PORN INDUSTRY AND THE legitimate film world are often hard to come by given the sanitized corporate façades of most studios. But Joe Francis, who has earned more money on soft porn than should be allowed, may have surreptitiously and successfully crossed that transitive Valley border. For the last 18 months, Francis has maintained a quiet deal with Peter Guber's Mandalay Entertainment on video series such as "Playboy Mansion Parties: Uncensored." Separately, he has also distributed "Girls Gone Wild" and "Playboy Casting Calls" under the Mantra Entertainment label, which also has a partnership with Mandalay.

Mandalay -- which has had structured official film deals with Sony, Paramount and, finally, Lions Gate -- takes no credit on the videos, and you won't find Guber's name attached to anything.

Sources say the deal falls under Guber's Mandalay Sports Entertainment umbrella, which had originally been designed to foster an interest in minor-league baseball and hockey teams. In fact, Francis claims that the whole Mandalay Enterprise was born out of an interest in developing and distributing wrestling videos. Francis maintains that his videos are not about pornography, preferring to term it "reality TV.

"This isn't porn," he proclaims. "It's girls showing their breasts. It's like European TV."

Some Mandalay executives refuse to even acknowledge that Francis has any official link to the company, which has produced such highbrow titles as Enemy at the Gates and The Score. One former senior executive said he had never even heard of Francis. But other insiders allow for the fact that he works hand in hand with the Sports Division.

Francis has in the last month retained the public-relations firm BWR PR to cleanse his image and offer up salient points about the deal with Mandalay.

"I was doing a lot of other stuff," he adds. "I've done comedy videos and children's videos and animation. We have deals with pop stars. Mantra is pretty diversified."

Though he personally won't discuss the subject, none of this is alien to former Sony Pictures Entertainment chairman Guber. In 1969, after watching a Sony demonstration of its new consumer-video technology at the Beverly Hills Hotel, Guber penned a ground-shaking, 15,000-word Hollywood manifesto about the earliest notions of a video industry. In "The New Ballgame/The Cartridge Revolution," Guber argued that new technologies would create a "great new pornographic market."

"One can make their own home movies, tapes and films as well as find distribution for them," he wrote. "Thus, home nudies with neighborhood actors and actresses are a certainty."

Joe Francis wouldn't be born for another five years. But Guber must have had him in mind in that wild, freewheeling summer of love.
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