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12-18-2012, 11:43 AM | #901 | |
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Fabian is a LOT smarter than we all give him credit for. He's gonna run more than the interwebs when he gets out of the joint. |
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12-18-2012, 11:45 AM | #902 | |
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As for Fabian and his 2 young daughters...I have two daughters as well. And watching our income as an affiliate fall to pieces while Manwin led the way in piracy and had a nice helping hand in decimating the paysite business over the past few years has meant that my 2 daughters won't have all the great things I had planned for them. I don't know Fabian personally. But I do know that I spent the last couple of years warning him that if he didn't chill the hell out he was gonna end up in jail. I hope he sits his fat ass in there as long as possible. And I hope that the authorities use this charge on his taxes as a way to get into the books of the entire company and shred it. A huge portion of that money is based on the hard work of other companies who had their content stolen and devalued while Manwin raked in the ad money from the traffic. I'm doing better than most...and when I think of the things that my own two daughters should have had if the affiliate side of my business had continued to grow exponentially as it did from 1996 to 2008, I feel NO sympathy for Fabian. And I can only imagine what those less fortunate than I am in this business are going through right now because of piracy. He knew what he was doing is wrong. And like every internet thief...he hid behind the DMCA law and laughed while others lost their ass. |
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Like you as example. If you had anything of substance to your name I'm sure you would be all over the place with it. You do not appear to be the type of person who want to stay out of the spotlight. You can keep telling yourself that if it helps, your the only one you are fooling here
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12-18-2012, 01:32 PM | #905 | |
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12-18-2012, 03:16 PM | #909 |
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12-18-2012, 03:18 PM | #910 |
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12-18-2012, 03:56 PM | #911 | |
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Fabian is the legally liable one, he can't blame (non-German) accountants as defense strategy. But Fabian did not started any tube, he simply got 362 million by someone with the deal to buy most tubes. While buying cam ads, a non-Manwin (still big) tube owner told me in ICQ, right before he sold to Manwin, that he was concerned of the hosting bill: losing just 1 (one) advertiser last minute, or 1 (one) non-renewal, meant immediate debt, he can't pay hoster, ha to go offline or redirect away countries (India, Brazil,...). Now 362 million shared to a few tubes are a big help, not just for scale economy, but in some extent to "keep it up" as big, or bigger, rather than collapse, and shrink. So, blame the anonymous ones who inject 362 million in the tubes economy, not Fabian, if you are a tube hater. Cyprus is made by them, to keep anonymity, more than for Tax evasion. They are conservative church, synagogue, mosque republican senators, who can lose reputation, not mafia, gangsters as someone thinks.
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ESL = English Second Language ?
Thanks appreciate it. I lived in 3 different countries before I turned 30, USA is the first English speaking country. Now you know my story, tell me yours
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12-18-2012, 04:46 PM | #913 |
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Both. I think, the last thing i would worry about is not being at home even if i had kids. People are acting if that would be the end of the world missing a Christmas.... I wouldn't care, he has time and money enough to spent time with his kids later. There are a lot of families who's parents aren't at home or not able to even buy something for Christmas. Divorced, working on oil platforms, working in hotels etcetra etcetra. And Robbie also has right, a lot of people have seen an income drop bcause of piracy. So maybe i am an idiot, you act like if missing Christmas is the end of the world.... wait maybe it is! The 21th is coming soon!
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12-18-2012, 05:07 PM | #914 | |
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You were the CEO/President running Private.com? I did not know that, unless by "running", you meant something different, like you were a manager at Private, and it sure felt like you were running the company. Please elaborate...so did you work for Berth Milton, the disgraced CEO that was fired, or Charles Prast the new CEO? (Prast was a key player in the iBill/Penthouse debacle as I recall - interesting to see where these people resurface). ADG |
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12-18-2012, 05:13 PM | #915 |
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ADG, PRVT used to have and still does a lot more things than the websites, i was the online director, in charge of the paysite and the aff.program, of course i wasnt the ceo lol
Was in the times of Milton and I left when Ilan came and the gamelink deal happened... why u respond like this man? i didnt write it to brag or anything... |
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I knew it! I heard he got the idea from The Walking Dead!
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12-18-2012, 05:19 PM | #918 | |
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Manwin's tube sites have gone unregulated and unfettered for how long? And they have caused a lot of the evil eye turned against the adult industry, because as a whole this industry "associates" with Manwin and lets Manwin taint this industry with that tacit approval of their shady ways of doing business. Every adult business entity that does business with Manwin and their band of backers and shell companies hurts this industry more than anything Manwin is charged with can ever hurt this industry.
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12-18-2012, 05:29 PM | #919 | |
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im trying to imagine how (and in what context) (bearing in mind the formality)
anyone would put "faggoted up" on a resume. "Hey dude i want the job because i just faggoted up at acme marketing, but what the hell i want to work here instead - dude" Quote:
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12-18-2012, 05:46 PM | #920 | |
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12-18-2012, 06:01 PM | #921 | |
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12-18-2012, 06:02 PM | #922 | |
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Cheating by using other people's artistic properties, cheating the German government for tax income, probably cheating in many other ways - how can he think that at some point it is not going to catch up with him?
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12-18-2012, 06:15 PM | #923 |
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Moral porn peddlers make me absolutely fucking nauseous. The "real" content providers; trolling social networks to find 17 year olds, hoping to grab them when they turn 18. "Real" businessmen whining about content theft and promoting dating sites; who, by the way, never lifted a single profile photo. Small providers; worshipping the likes of ccbill, who certainly didn't make their money processing MILF sites. Dialers, forced cross sales, banging CC's, naturalist sites, beast sites, rape, incest, installs, etc., etc.,
I'm a "real" pornographer...I only take some confused, abused, naive little girl on her 18th birthday, dress her up in pigtails, make her look as young as possible and assfuck her on film, I deserve respect! Pissant porn peddlers are like the fox news viewers of the internet; content with living in denial and being stupid. No, I'm not manwin - I don't know shit about them other than they have almost half as much traffic as google, but for even a taste of their traffic, I'd throw 99% of you into a forced homeless rimjob marathon and laugh about it...all the way to the bank. All this is overlooked by the down's baby version of luke ford and his lackey. The same thing happened with TGP's. The same thing happened with MPG's. You might notice...if half of you had a brain, those with phenomenal content aren't here bitching. They're too busy counting their money. Filming some meth hags in south florida getting splattered with jigg jizz, or ass infected tranny's in some wannabe opium den doesn't count as phenomenal content btw. |
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Today it's piracy which is putting the affiliate out of business combined with the short sidedness of many sponsors. I barely use sponsor content anymore. It's mostly crap. I can't compete with two minute promo clips when pornhub has 1,000 of the sponsor's full scenes or 7 minute promo clips the sponsor is giving them. I can't compete in Google when those promo clips are seen as duplicate content and the fucking pirate tube is seen as an massive original content provider. It isn't worth it. I have to bring in traffic with other content and increasingly I have to monetize outside of using affiliate programs because they all mostly convert 1:2,000 or worse. As an affiliate would I go back to the days of AVS? You bet I would. You can come and chop off my right arm right now man if it meant in return hardcore porn would be illegal without a credit card worldwide. Hell maybe my left one too! .....But this isn't the issue. My issue with Manwin isn't that I want free hardcore porn to be illegal. My issue is that they are fucking thieves. I don't mind losing business or adapting. I do mind some fucking scumbags cheating their way to the top and fucking over honest people though. Do that and I say "burn in hell!" I make no apologies. Why should the good people in this industry (and there are good people) be screwed over because of scumbags?
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what he said. minus the forced homeless rimjob
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you really think it will be like in the AVS days?? Even if this happens will be something different and probably the ones that are more illegal will benefit as they wouldnt comply...
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If that doesn't bite them in the ass now, it will eventually. Allowing minors such blatant exposure to hardcore porn is not a good thing for the industry. It makes us all look bad. I have always found it ironic that everyone will put warning pages on their sites and warnings on DVDs, then submit videos to the tubes via their partner account which have no warning whatsoever. They can't even pretend they are trying to prevent minors from accessing the content, because they are not. This won't end well, you can count on that much. |
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I'm not naive. I know it isn't likely that there will be effective worldwide legislation and enforcement. We were only speaking in theory about whether it would be better for content providers, affiliates, and pretty much the whole industry if hardcore free porn were banned and the answer to that is....HELL YES! But again free porn isn't my main issue with Manwin nor do I think that's the issue most have with them. My issue is that they are thieves and cheats. More specifically they built their business on theft and piracy.
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Thats what i thought !
I must say i was annoyed he did'nt include google maps though - how the fuck do we get there without a map ? No, Im more upmarket though, "meth hags in south florida getting splattered with jigg jizz" thats more my bag any day of the week. Ive been looking for meth hags in south florida since January 14th 2007 - bit of a rarity these days. if only this forum had google maps incorporated into it. |
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something has brought out some anger
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Perhaps it is the influence of the 1960s on me. But somehow I think turning young innocent men and women into killers or perhaps into stone cold corpses to be sent home in body bags is far far worse than my paying them to have sex while I film it. Speaking only for myself... I have never and never will film anyone that appears to be confused, abused and naive on their 18th birthday. However I know of at least 3 girls that are adults today... That have uploaded pornographic videos of themselves to tube sites when they were still minors. One of them was outright fucking her boyfriend at 15 and uploading the video to various tube sites. From what I have been told, the links are still valid. Just to be clear... Despite that those girls are legally adults today, I have never filmed any of them and I never will. I have no desire to be any where close to this sort of garbage.
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The owners of those affiliate programs bought the idea that they should give away hardcore content to affiliates for their link sites and then felt the effects of training the public to not pay for their own product. "Marketing" shouldn't be left to affiliates anyway, and I don't just say that because I am a professional publicist and marketer. I say it because every company should have control over how their image and product is presented to the potential consumer, and the majority of affiliate sites have always had a poor track record of accomplishing that. And thank you DWB . . . sometimes I'm logical. ;)
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ps - what has it got to do with this ?
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I agree. I find the selective morality of certain self styled "pornographers" hilarious. They try to cast copyright infringement as a moral issue when really it's simply a financial issue.
It's OK to profit from desperate girls with fake IDs who clearly don't want to be there (and in Thailand, who don't realize they're about to be splashed all over the internet and barebacked by someone with a very high HIV risk)... It's OK to profit for years and years from PPS programs that bang cards on the back end... It's OK to profit from programs that will ruthlessly bulk mail every email address you send them... It's OK to profit as an affiliate for programs that steal content from newsgroups, from magazines, from illegal DVD rips, from social networking sites... It's OK to run your sites on a biller that made it's buck from child porn... It's OK to run large free sites that show vast amounts of free porn to underage viewers and that for years and years have contributed to the hypersexualization of children... It's even OK to have your top trade with a pirate site that built it's traffic on piracy, just as long as they've got big traffic to send... But put my McDonald's quality smut on your website and fail to give me my piece? FUCK YOU I HOPE YOU GET GANG RAPED IN PRISON. |
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Another detailed thread on GFY. I never saw this coming.
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The immoral relativists always come bounding in drooling like Pavlov's dog into threads like this. They are seriously guilt ridden people with very low morals that extend beyond the porn industry. In an attempt to make themselves feel better about themselves they will spew a litany of immoral and unethical acts which others are engaged in - they will do their best to paint as many people as possible as scumbags, so they don't feel so bad about themselves because if 'everybody's doing it' it somehow makes them less of a piece of shit.
They are almost always at the end of the day - snitches.
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I find it curious that the "pornographer" crowd feels that they can differentiate the single issue of copyright infringement (which isn't even theft, people need to get their terminology right), when there is a plethora of other bad shit in porn that conveniently gets ignored during the piracy discussion. I work with search engines and text all day every day, and I haven't had a site with pictures or videos on it for literally years and years. However I don't personally particularly care about the moral ramifications of the porn industry that I was pointing out above - I just find if funny that others refuse to acknowledge what are really entrenched and endemic issues in the online porn industry, when they are so vocal and self righteous when it comes to piracy. |
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