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Old 12-10-2012, 12:23 PM   #151
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also in november newspaper die welt have information to be published about company structure about manwin blocked by fabian in preliminary injunction court order, court to decide on december 19
Thanks for the information. Please post any more specific links or sources you have on this even if in German.
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also in november newspaper die welt have information to be published about company structure about manwin blocked by fabian in preliminary injunction court order, court to decide on december 19
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I don't know anything about German tax law, but if they run you down in another country for German tax issues, is that normal or are you in a world of hurt?
I am not sure about Germany either, but in The Netherlands it is perfectly normal that a person that is suspected of tax evasion is taken out of the running for a few days / weeks. The FIOD (which is sort of a tax police unit) interrogates the case and you are not allowed to speak with anyone but the FIOD and you lawyers.

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Will hold off promoting Manwin affiliate programs until this blows over.
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I have a tel. number of one manwin germany employee,should i call and ask what the fuck
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Not sure about over there; but here we are innocent until proven guilty.
Not when it comes to US tax law. In fact, it is quite the opposite, guilty until proven innocent; Gov can enforce all sorts of punitive penalties before trial and judgement so I wonder how Germany, which is supposed to be even tighter about taxes, handles stuff like this.
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post it here when it comes out

if theres an injunction involved then something is worth looking at.




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Not gonna hurt the business at all... Wishful thinking to all you haters though.
Unless he is released in the next few hours with a public apology, his business is going to be negatively impacted.
1) Legitimate business people and companies are going to question if they really want to persue future endevours with him.

2) His enemies are going to see that he is not invincable and they are going to start looking for ways to take him out

3) Most people are cowards so a large portion of his fan base are going to quietly walk away from him

4) Other companies are going to see a chance to increase market share are going to quietly cooperate with the police telling them any rumeur they might hear.

5) Because from this day on the police will keep Manwin under close survailence and will therefore have to be more white than white. Criminal elements that have always been in this industry are going to find ways to fill the void at Manwin's expense.

6) For the end user (consumer) of Manwin's products, brand image will be associated with criminal activity. Ultimately they will start looking for alternatives

Those 6 things are guaranteed. (I know because I have more than 40 years of experience and I have seen it all happen before)
But I can speculate that these things might also happen
7) Gouvernements are going to start to examine closely the tube business model. Issues about the lack of paperwork documenting performer age and compliance will be raised. Many gouvernment officials will also raise the issue of Luka Magnotta (Remember Luka Magnotta was from Montréal and arrested in Germany. Manwin may end up being consider "strike 2")

8) Manwin is owned by a German, head office in Luxembourg and operating out of Montréal. So the issue of how companies that are not owned by americans and are not United States based ignore the laws of their own nationality in an attempt to exploit loopholes in United States laws.

9) With banks and mail drop offices in several nations. Manwin's ability and ease to transfer money may make it a gouvernement target in order to justify new banking and anti laudering laws.

10) Because a close examination of Manwin's finances will occur. If Manwin was doing what soo many others are doing. The effectiveness of Internet based advertising and the use of BOT TRAFFIC to inflate revenus might finally become know to the general public and alert them to a rampent fraud problem on the Internet.
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Will hold off promoting Manwin affiliate programs until this blows over.
Just as I finished translating and typing you prove my arguments. Whatever happens now one thing is certain. It will never be the same.
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Old 12-10-2012, 01:03 PM   #165
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The people here trying to minimize this into just a routine tax dispute with Germany are naive. This company owns the world's largest free hardcore porn site/network and is moving huge amounts of money around the world. Let's not forget the 9 million dollars that was sitting in an American bank the Feds seized and Manwin ultimately forfeited. This is a company you can bet is on the radar screen of tax and security and law agencies of every country they do business in.
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When he is quilty we know he has 1 toilet in his office for some months. But we don't know if he uses it alone or with his cellmate.
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I don't like that my content is stolen etc, but I like Fabian & have been friends with him since 2004. The Fabian I know is a good guy.
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When he is quilty we know he has 1 toilet in his office for some months. But we don't know if he uses it alone or with his cellmate.

Good thinking Batman !

So Markham was right all along about the throne per employee ratio being iffy.

Maybe thats where the Germans nailed him.

I never did understand the German preoccupation with poo.

Did you ever visit a German throneroom ? Very odd, you kind of drop your load onto a shelf rather than into the water in the pot.


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I don't like that my content is stolen etc, but I like Fabian & have been friends with him since 2004. The Fabian I know is a good guy.
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No he isnt he is a thief a two bit con and a scumbag of the highest order.

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I want to hear what Fabian has to say...





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Reckon that penis insurance they have on Keiran Lees penis has a blanket policy for Fabians Asshole?
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He is going to say it was no big deal, only procedure, and it was blown out of proportion.
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All I have to say is:

This is really not the kind of publicity our industry needed at this moment in time...
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If I recall correctly, in his keynote he said he would stop working in this biz when it was "no longer fun". (or something to that effect)

I wonder if he is still having fun?
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YouPorn owner and regular ICM Registry antagonist Fabian Thylmann has reportedly been arrested in Belgium in connection with a German tax evasion investigation.

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6) For the end user (consumer) of Manwin's products, brand image will be associated with criminal activity. Ultimately they will start looking for alternatives[/INDENT][B]
I am cancelling my youporn membership right now! I am not having any of this criminal activity here where I fap away! I care about german tax SO much! Much more than fapping I can guarantee you this! Will sue Manwin for loss of wood because he did not pay tax.
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Unless he is released in the next few hours with a public apology, his business is going to be negatively impacted.
1) Legitimate business people and companies are going to question if they really want to persue future endevours with him.

2) His enemies are going to see that he is not invincable and they are going to start looking for ways to take him out

3) Most people are cowards so a large portion of his fan base are going to quietly walk away from him

4) Other companies are going to see a chance to increase market share are going to quietly cooperate with the police telling them any rumeur they might hear.

5) Because from this day on the police will keep Manwin under close survailence and will therefore have to be more white than white. Criminal elements that have always been in this industry are going to find ways to fill the void at Manwin's expense.

6) For the end user (consumer) of Manwin's products, brand image will be associated with criminal activity. Ultimately they will start looking for alternatives

Those 6 things are guaranteed. (I know because I have more than 40 years of experience and I have seen it all happen before)
But I can speculate that these things might also happen
7) Gouvernements are going to start to examine closely the tube business model. Issues about the lack of paperwork documenting performer age and compliance will be raised. Many gouvernment officials will also raise the issue of Luka Magnotta (Remember Luka Magnotta was from Montréal and arrested in Germany. Manwin may end up being consider "strike 2")

8) Manwin is owned by a German, head office in Luxembourg and operating out of Montréal. So the issue of how companies that are not owned by americans and are not United States based ignore the laws of their own nationality in an attempt to exploit loopholes in United States laws.

9) With banks and mail drop offices in several nations. Manwin's ability and ease to transfer money may make it a gouvernement target in order to justify new banking and anti laudering laws.

10) Because a close examination of Manwin's finances will occur. If Manwin was doing what soo many others are doing. The effectiveness of Internet based advertising and the use of BOT TRAFFIC to inflate revenus might finally become know to the general public and alert them to a rampent fraud problem on the Internet.


Just as I finished translating and typing you prove my arguments. Whatever happens now one thing is certain. It will never be the same.
The only problem with your theory is that most people that do business with Manwin or use their products don't visit GFY or German news sites and have no clue that Fabian was arrested at all.
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I'm surprised we don't have more information yet? Is there bail? When is the next hearing? Was this for his personal taxes or due to Manwin operations or both? Has anyone else from Manwin been arrested?
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I'm surprised we don't have more information yet? Is there bail? When is the next hearing? Was this for his personal taxes or due to Manwin operations or both? Has anyone else from Manwin been arrested?
Im not...he is still in custody in Belgium and hasnt yet been transported to Germany but he will be

it wont be until then that there will be any bail hearing which I am being told by a German friend he wont get

Im also told that Germany wont level a charge like this unless theres serious meat in it

itll be a few days i expect before any of that meat comes out...
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Im not...he is still in custody in Belgium and hasnt yet been transported to Germany .

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The only problem with your theory is that most people that do business with Manwin or use their products don't visit GFY or German news sites and have no clue that Fabian was arrested at all.
I hope that was a joke.

When shit happens in an industry you do business in, news travels very quick via far more mediums than simply gfy and German news.
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:04 PM   #191
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I am cancelling my youporn membership right now! I am not having any of this criminal activity here where I fap away! I care about german tax SO much! Much more than fapping I can guarantee you this! Will sue Manwin for loss of wood because he did not pay tax.
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:05 PM   #192
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You, sir are a fucking douchebag. Several notches down on the totem pole you go.

Don't flatter yourself, you were never that high to begin with.

Still higher than you ;)
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:06 PM   #193
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Any business that rises so quickly has to be built on a less than secure foundation. Regardless of the outcome, his ability to push the envelope will be curtailed. Sometimes fast growth is all push and no envelope. We'll see. It will not be business as usual.

The properties Manwin owns that are strong will stay strong, but if any of this labyrinthine structure is smoke and mirrors, the smoke will dissolve and the mirrors will break.
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:09 PM   #194
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i dont know anything about the specifics, but i dont think it will come to prison,
and even if it does it wont change a lot,
larry flynt and david sullivan both went to prison, so have loads of others - did not change anything except maybe try to stay on the right side of the law,
both larry flynt and david sullivan's market share is a pittance to what it was - but that is because times have changed - i.e. the distribution methods,

prison (if it comes to that) wont change a lot - unless the domains get seized - which could happen, depending on how far it goes, but i cant see it getting enormously bad bearing in mind something like this might have been semi expected (i.e. - has anything like this ever happened before ?)
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:14 PM   #195
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I hope that was a joke.

When shit happens in an industry you do business in, news travels very quick via far more mediums than simply gfy and German news.
That it does. I just came back from buying milk and the corner store owner knows I make porn. So he asked me if I know anything about german porn czar being arrested.

Bad news travels fast.. but it travels even faster when it involves porn.

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I am cancelling my youporn membership right now! I am not having any of this criminal activity here where I fap away! I care about german tax SO much! Much more than fapping I can guarantee you this! Will sue Manwin for loss of wood because he did not pay tax.
Go ahead and laugh little boy. I have seen your type too and eventually you will end up working for something like McDonalds
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:17 PM   #196
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The only problem with your theory is that most people that do business with Manwin or use their products don't visit GFY or German news sites and have no clue that Fabian was arrested at all.
It just hit Gawker.
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:17 PM   #197
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:19 PM   #198
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Just saw it in gawker: http://m.gawker.com/5967224/porn-kin...ion-in-belgium
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:19 PM   #199
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It just hit Gawker.
yup my MS buddy just hit me up with a gawker link..
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