Originally Posted by L-Pink

Too bad John Candy is dead he would make a good fabian.

Originally Posted by Roald

Yes saw that but it doesn't say they are the ones behind it right?

And if they are what more is there to be found about these companies? The names alone don't say a whole lot.

Originally Posted by DWB

According to online info, both of those companies are only a few years old. Doesn't look like they could be the source of the money.

Originally Posted by DWB

According to online info, both of those companies are only a few years old. Doesn't look like they could be the source of the money.

Originally Posted by Gozarian

Cortland has been around for many years DWB check more thoroughly. I have friends in the industry in Chi - I once worked in that very building )

Originally Posted by ShellyCrash

It would be nice to see a little more action on the part of our industry news sources. When this story broke it seemed the most established industry news outlets were the last to post it.

Originally Posted by ShellyCrash

When this story broke it seemed the most established industry news outlets were the last to post it.

Originally Posted by ShellyCrash

It would be nice to see a little more action on the part of our industry news sources. When this story broke it seemed the most established industry news outlets were the last to post it.

Originally Posted by DWB

Why do you think that is?

Originally Posted by JFK

Phuket or Pattaya, which one is 1st ??

Originally Posted by adultmobile

Yes, people here talking of Thai hookers not even noticed an XBIZ article is out:
http://www.xbiz.com/news/157695

Manwin today broke its silence over the ongoing investigation of Fabian Thylmann.
"Manwin?s managing partner is currently the subject of an investigation by the German tax authorities and accordingly, no conclusion was reached in this matter ? as of the date of this release.
Manwin?s global operations remain unaffected and, as is customary with our company, we will not comment on pending legal matters.
At this time, we request that the media respects the privacy of Manwin associates, employees, as well as their families. We are grateful for the support we received, and look forward to having this matter resolved. Until then, there will be no further comments."

This is no real news. But today 19th Dec, the Fabian's hearing day, could be happening in this moment or already done.

Originally Posted by signupdamnit

AVN and XBIZ can't seem to publish anything negative about Fabian or Manwin without getting their permission first. That's the pattern we've all been seeing for years.

Originally Posted by SZNY

New on FB
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Free-Y...34045?fref=tck

Originally Posted by pornopete

Think it will be as big as Middle Men?

Originally Posted by omgt

facebook deletes all adult pages, but its a new page





is that picture supposed to be his cell or what ?

Originally Posted by adultmobile

Yes and newspaper won:

http://investigativ.welt.de/2012/12/...chef-thylmann/

"We won the dispute against YouPorn Chief Thylmann"

"Thylmann, and several of his companies obtained a temporary injunction against our coverage in October. First, he called 49 passages from our article by the Editorial Board to stop its spreading. We rejected that, then he moved to court. As a result of the preliminary court decision, our dossier could no longer be disseminated."

"At noon today, we went to the judgment of the Düsseldorf Regional Court. It is a victory all along the line: the Court ruled that we can further spread the critical cover story about Thylmann, his companies and business practices. The injunction was lifted - in all 18 points. "

"The Court trial delivered new insights. we were searching in Belgium for the current residence of Fabian Thylmanns, but it was the House of his parents, where he once lived: why the YouPorn boss registered several of his companies still on the home address of his parents?"

The original article is put back online:

http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschla...-die-Welt.html

You can translate with google translator or bing translator (works better with german), it is very long!
It claims Luxembourg headquarters of Manwin are empty. It mentions GFY board.
"In 2006 Thylmann sold his shares in the NATS company for a single-digit millions, as industry insiders estimate. So he comes to his starting capital. He buys my dirty hobby amateur German sex portal, and apparently also picks up loans. In 2009, He had been debt-free. But Thylmann wants more."
"By whom is the 362-million investment? The loan to the Luxembourg holding company has a height of 362 million dollars (276 million euros). Investors borrow the Aachener a nine-digit sum on April 28, 2011. It was a Wall Street hedge fund, Thylmann says in the "Hard Rock Hotel".
"The Cypriot documents do not reveal the origin of the money. But they call two other participating companies. The ****** in Delaware, and the **** from Chicago."

I wrote **** as I do not wish legal issues myself

Originally Posted by rabbit

can someone explain to me why Fabian is always referred to as a 'managing partner' if he's the sole owner? partner implies more than one owner, managing implies there's a silent partner...

Originally Posted by SZNY

If its produced by an in-depended director and written by a good writer it will be better :D



No man you are wrong, I see lately more and more adult pages and content on FB. Maybe its his personal fav cough, don't think his temp room is that luxurious

Originally Posted by omgt

facebook deletes all adult pages, but its a new page





is that picture supposed to be his cell or what ?

Originally Posted by omgt

no, it just seemed to be a strange picture in there, its obviously not a cell, but it doesnt say anything about what it is supposed to be.

Originally Posted by ReggieDurango

Hahahah, Fabian's cage?!? DEFINITELY not. I take it you don't surf the tubezzz.



It's a genereic "casting couch" from all the casting couch pornsites. Doesn't really have much to do with Manwin/Fabian

Originally Posted by omgt

no, it just seemed to be a strange picture in there, its obviously not a cell, but it doesnt say anything about what it is supposed to be.

Originally Posted by rabbit

can someone explain to me why Fabian is always referred to as a 'managing partner' if he's the sole owner? partner implies more than one owner, managing implies there's a silent partner...

Originally Posted by rabbit

can someone explain to me why Fabian is always referred to as a 'managing partner' if he's the sole owner? partner implies more than one owner, managing implies there's a silent partner...

Originally Posted by DWB

Why **** out the names?

Translated:

The Cypriot documents do not reveal the source of the money. But they call two more companies involved. The CB Agency Services LLC in the State of Delaware, known as a tax haven, and Cortland Capital Markets Services LLC, a financial services company in Chicago.

Originally Posted by Roald

"The Cypriot documents do not reveal the origin of the money. But they call two other participating companies. The ****** in Delaware, and the **** from Chicago."

So who gave the loan?

Reading on my phone so perhaps I'm missing parts here...

Originally Posted by DWB

Why **** out the names?

Translated:

The Cypriot documents do not reveal the source of the money. But they call two more companies involved. The CB Agency Services LLC in the State of Delaware, known as a tax haven, and Cortland Capital Markets Services LLC, a financial services company in Chicago.

Originally Posted by Gozarian

Colbeck Capital Management, LLP claims "full transparency of all their portfolios" let see just how transparent.

Grant Thornton is auditor of most of their portfolios.

Originally Posted by Konda

Interesting, Grant Thornton was also mentioned earlier in this thread, and also in some of the Die Welt articles.

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

I'm guessing that private equity companies such as CB Agency Services LLC, Cortland Capital Markets Services LLC, Colbeck Capital Management, etc., do not want their private and institutional clients knowing that their funds are deeply involved in financing Manwin Holding SARL, one of the largest pornography enterprises on the planet (if indeed that is the case).

I imagine some investors maybe would want to pull their money out if they knew that it was financing porn, or that the Managing Partner of Manwin SARL is now in jail on tax evasion charges, and the possibility that there may be more investigations and other serious charges filed against Fabian Thylmann/Manwin, as the German authorities sift through all of the computers and documents they seized while raiding Fabian Thylmann's house and offices at various Manwin corporate offices.

Once they become known as a porn equity investment company, it could impact other aspects of their business as well...



ADG

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Too bad John Candy is dead he would make a good fabian.

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

More on Grant Thornton:

UPDATE 2-Grant Thornton settles Refco lawsuit for $25 mlllion
http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/...28949320101018



ADG

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Shelly! Good to see you.

Originally Posted by omgt

"Manwin?s managing partner"

on linkedin (see my previous post)

it says OWNER
now its PARTNER

next week it will be SALESMAN

by June it will be THE TEABOY

Originally Posted by ReggieDurango

It's a genereic "casting couch" from all the casting couch pornsites. Doesn't really have much to do with Manwin/Fabian

Originally Posted by Phoenix

So the funds have already been through the ringer in terms of shady dealings?
I don't think they will care then about porn.
Most peoples morals go out the door for a healthy ROI.

Originally Posted by artwilliams

... unless their real identities become known.

Originally Posted by adultmobile

Fabian it may be an owner/main shareholder of Manwin, like Bill Gates it is for Microsoft or Zuckerberg it is for Facebook, just (same as them) he may own way less than 50%, because most of the shares being really floating in the financial market, who funded with aloan and so became shareholder. Just, not as public stocks, but floating in different way.

Fabian said to German Financial Times that ***** have resold the "porn fund" to a dozen other *****'s. Now ***** states got $10 billion under management, in press releases. With the other dozen *****'s together may be well $100 billion of respectable corporations and pension funds, they reinvest to make them profit.
To sell / inject just $350 million into $100 billion is just the 0.3% of the customers to be sold "porn fund" to, this is a very easy target, especially if it is not shown the sites in a very clear way... but, it could be, the bank customers are invited to browse Youporn and Brazzers, before to decide if to invest or not in it.
I would expect the $350m "porn fund" it is now owned by hundreds of mostly north american, conservative republicans, going in church and synagogue on weekends. This is who most likely got so much cash to invest.
Some owning $100k, others $500k, others $1 or $2 million of "porn fund" worth each. I don't expect any russian mafia, colombian gangster, israel mossad or conspiracy theory and money launder involved. I expect very respectable religious people from North America, to own the Manwin credit loan shares.

Originally Posted by ilnjscb

The idea that all debt can be packaged and easily resold is incorrect. That ended in 2008.

Originally Posted by adultmobile

Fabian it may be an owner/main shareholder of Manwin, like Bill Gates it is for Microsoft or Zuckerberg it is for Facebook,