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GonZo · 12-19-2012, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by AutumnBH

No no no you've got me all wrong... With the exception of the exploitation of children, I don't really care about any of the bad shit in the porn industry. My attitude is that the opportunity is there and I may as well take advantage of it. I am just pointing out that those problems exist, they are real, anyone who has been around for a while has profited from them.

But anyone who profits from internet porn, knowing full well all the concomitant problems, and then rants about the immorality of piracy and content "theft" is a total hypocrite.

Dont mind me. Im learning about the Thai sex industry and your investment portfolio.
Testify on !

AutumnBH · 12-19-2012, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB

Most of it.

What you wrote is the broken record story of every NGO who spent a few months here or someone who came on holiday a few times and think they are experts on everything. A few things were accurate or close enough, but most of it was rubbish and exaggerated.

I find it telling that you won't engage with specifics. It seems like many porners lose perspective and think that their behaviour is normal. FYI I am half Asian and fluent in Thai.

DWB · 12-19-2012, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by AutumnBH

No, it means you're a hypocrite.

Christ! Really?

But enough about me, tell me more about the underage girls working at your bar. You seem to know a lot about the underage sex trade there, and you did say they work in all the bars, and you do own a bar, right? Fascinated to hear more about it and how you're profiting off the backs and butts of kids. Do tell.

DWB · 12-19-2012, 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by AutumnBH

I find it telling that you won't engage with specifics. It seems like many porners lose perspective and think that their behaviour is normal. FYI I am half Asian and fluent in Thai.

What specifics? Your post was completely factually incorrect. I'm not going to debate each of those ridiculous claims with an anon nick. If you want to get together for a drink the next time you're in town, I'd be happy to talk about it, but I'm not wasting fingers on you otherwise.

But I will say there is no perspective lost. There is only reality, and you have a lot of layers left to peel off your onion before you get to it.

AutumnBH · 12-19-2012, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB

Christ! Really?

But enough about me, tell me more about the underage girls working at your bar. You seem to know a lot about the underage sex trade there, and you did say they work in all the bars, and you do own a bar, right? Fascinated to hear more about it and how you're profiting off the backs and butts of kids. Do tell.

Is that really the best you can come up with? Putting words in someone's mouth and accusing them of underage sex is just lame. In fact I'm pretty sure there's a GFY rule against that...

DWB · 12-19-2012, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by AutumnBH

Is that really the best you can come up with? Putting words in someone's mouth and accusing them of underage sex is just lame. In fact I'm pretty sure there's a GFY rule against that...

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Originally Posted by AutumnBH

Fake IDs are rife and almost every brothel in Thailand has under 18s. The customers love them young.

How do I know all this? I live in Bangkok for most of the year, I have a small stake in a bar in Soi 4

Go on....

AutumnBH · 12-19-2012, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB

Go on....

You might want to take note of that word "ALMOST" in there. I assume that swallowing all that tranny sperm has addled your reading comprehension.

Once again it's telling that this is your choice of response, rather than refuting any of the factually incorrect things I've apparently said.

So how thoroughly did you check IDs on all those sites of yours hmmm?

totalsexcams · 12-19-2012, 06:09 AM

happy Christmas everyone

DWB · 12-19-2012, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by AutumnBH

You might want to take note of that word "ALMOST" in there. I assume that swallowing all that tranny sperm has addled your reading comprehension.

We both know they are in every bar. But nice try.

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Originally Posted by AutumnBH

So how thoroughly did you check IDs on all those sites of yours hmmm?

Since you know I swallow tranny sperm, you should also know I'm the only producer in the entire country who can get a 2nd ID print outs and ID confirmations directly from the government. That is why I have been able to provide the top studios in the DVD industry with iron clad 2257 compliant movies for the last decade.

So now you tell me, how thoroughly do you check the IDs of your bar girls? Because I know you can't get the same government ID print outs I do, and I know how loosely the bar owners actually check IDs, often allow the girls to use their cousin or sisters IDs.

Tell me what bar you own and I'll find at least one minor working in it within 45 minutes or less of me walking in the door.

AutumnBH · 12-19-2012, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB

We both know they are in every bar. But nice try.

See there you go with this factually correct thing, when that is not actually true. Gogo bars? Possibly. Beer bars? No way. Some bars for sure, but there are tons of bars that only employ older women because that is what their particular patronage enjoys. It's just not accurate to claim that every beer bar has underage girls in it, just like wouldn't be accurate to claim that every ladyboy has HIV. But a lot of them do.

However if that is actually true about the ID thing then that is pretty cool, even if you are otherwise a whining and self righteous hypocrite. We got halfway through setting up a cam studio but decided to flag because of too many headaches, including not being able to guarantee IDs.

DWB · 12-19-2012, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by AutumnBH

See there you go with this factually correct thing, when that is not actually true. Gogo bars? Possibly. Beer bars? No way. Some bars for sure, but there are tons of bars that only employ older women because that is what their particular patronage enjoys.

If it is a bar only full of MILFs, I'll give you that. But if they employ younger looking girls, there is at least one minor there. Even beer bars. If you are in the bar industry, you know this to be true.

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Originally Posted by AutumnBH

However if that is actually true about the ID thing then that is pretty cool, even if you are otherwise a whining and self righteous hypocrite. We got halfway through setting up a cam studio but decided to flag because of too many headaches, including not being able to guarantee IDs.

Of course it's true. By luck the Thai who works for me has a family member who oversees the national ID database. We give them a ID number, we get a confirmation if it's legit and he sends me a government print out of the ID, which has more information on it than the regular ID, such as parents and so on. It is the government wrap sheet on the person, plus the photo that is on the ID. It's the best ID on a person anyone can get. A lot of things can be said about me, but saying my models are underage is not one of them.

L-Pink · 12-19-2012, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by totalsexcams

happy Christmas everyone

omgt · 12-19-2012, 07:10 AM

yes happy christmas everyone

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2MuchMark · 12-19-2012, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by AutumnBH

Here is how the Thai sex industry works, for those that don't know, and an example of the dubious morality of the internet porn industry:

If you are a white man having sex with prostitutes in Thailand, and especially in the sleaze pit of Pattaya where creampiethais et. al. are filmed, then you are having sex with almost illiterate farm girls from the North East, many of whom haven't been to high school, had kid(s) extremely young, and are frequently bullied or guilt tripped in to whoring by their families back in Isaan. The girls are not "forced" into it in human trafficking terms, but are forced by circumstance and family pressure. A good chunk of Isaan families rejoice if they get a beautiful daughter because it means she's going to be shipped off for sex to earn for the family.

Fake IDs are rife and almost every brothel in Thailand has under 18s. The customers love them young. I'm not accusing anyone here of making CP but the chances that some popular Thai porn sites have under 18 models (through realistic fake IDs and not necessarily through any deliberate intent of the producers) is extremely high, in fact it's almost a certainty.

Most prostitutes are not public about what they do and there is a polite fiction that they work in a restaurant or whatever, despite the comparatively large sums of money they send home every month. Being a prostitute is instant shame and huge loss of face and once a girl is known as a hooker then no Thai man is ever going to want her as a wife, hence the fact that the girls keep it a secret. However if a woman is on a big Thai porn site then everyone knows and they are off the market for good. They'd better hope they can snag a farang husband because no Thai man is ever going to want them. So if you film a Thai girl and put it on the net, then you are basically personally responsible for consigning them to a life of single whoredom and shame among Thais.

Most younger urban Thais are on the net now (on their phones at least, the primary internet device in Thailand is a 3G phone), Facebook and social networking is massive, and everyone knows about those porn sites... It is almost a point of national shame amongst people that don't work in the sex industry. Thais also love to gossip.

Typically a sex worker works at a bar for a small salary (maybe 4000 baht per month, about $133). However to get that money she has have sex with 8 customers per month. If she gets less customers than that, she gets her salary cut. She has to turn up at 6-7pm sharp and she will docked something like 3 baht for every minute she is late. So these are women who are highly exploited by the system already. They can make a lot of money from fees from customers, gifts etc, but...

Thailand has the highest HIV rate outside Africa. Government statistics indicate that someone gets HIV in Thailand every 15 minutes, and the Thai govt is preoccupied with saving face so the real rate is probably higher. The main reason is that Thai men refuse to use condoms, and so do many Western customers. Most sex workers, being so uneducated, have only the dimmest idea of how STIs including HIV are transmitted, how pregnancy works etc. Most will be pressured into no-condom sex because they need the money so badly - with no welfare state, if you don't work, then you literally don't eat. So the chances of a white porn producer who has barebacked literally hundreds of Thai prostitutes having HIV is extremely high, much much higher than the US; but the girls don't understand the risk, and they need to get paid.

The risk is even higher if that producer barebacks trannies because of both the increased prevalence of HIV in the homosexual community and the fact that the risk of transmission skyrockets with anal sex on both the penetrative and the receptive sides.

That's not the least of it... Conservatively 50% of the sex workers in Bangkok and Pattaya are involved with yaba (amphetamine pills) or ice (meth). I could go on and on about how fucked up the Thai sex industry is... And we are only talking about the Western facing industry here, the Asian facing industry is much, much worse and is where the real human slavery happens.

Prostitution and filming porn is completely illegal in Thailand and if you want to do it on a professional scale then it requires bribes. Thus there is zero worker protection.

How do I know all this? I am not a whoremonger myself for obvious reasons, but I live in Bangkok for most of the year, I have a small stake in a bar in Soi 4 and bankrolled a friend of mine who set up a street bar on Sukhumvit.

So we have a situation where a lot of regular people might say that it is completely morally fucked up to film bareback porn in Thailand - it is basically exploitation and a huge public health risk.

Do I really care, or judge anyone who chooses to do it? No. But I find it curious that certain posters can make a living profiting from what some people might describe as human misery, whilst they rant on and on about how terrible it is to pinch a few movies.

And don't get me started on the moral quagmire of running one of the net's biggest free porn sites...

We had this real creep contact us a few years ago, who wanted to run a chat studio out of Thailand. "I can't tell you where it will be, and I can't show you the girls yet, but trust me we'll make millions" he said. He sounded like such a low life. He dropped words like "sex tourism" and how "The American laws are so bad" and "He wouldn't return to the US even if he could", etc etc. He just wreaked of scumbag. As soon as he started asking about ways to funnel money between 2 or 3 accounts I told him I'd call the FBI if he ever called back, and hung up.

omgt · 12-19-2012, 07:19 AM

welcome to the Thailand tourism discussion thread **********,
next week we'll be debating the best Thai beaches.

Three.Thousand · 12-19-2012, 07:21 AM

Any content producer who don't think piracy or tube sites are bad, and/or that Fabian is top notch guy, could you please send me all your content, i would like to give it away for free or/and use it as filler.

GonZo · 12-19-2012, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by **********

We had this real creep contact us a few years ago, who wanted to run a chat studio out of Thailand. "I can't tell you where it will be, and I can't show you the girls yet, but trust me we'll make millions" he said. He sounded like such a low life. He dropped words like "sex tourism" and how "The American laws are so bad" and "He wouldn't return to the US even if he could", etc etc. He just wreaked of scumbag. As soon as he started asking about ways to funnel money between 2 or 3 accounts I told him I'd call the FBI if he ever called back, and hung up.

Is this the nut from your forums a bit back?

Qbert · 12-19-2012, 07:28 AM

I think I can bring this discussion full circle...

...we need to chip in and get a Thai tranny hooker so Fabian can have a Xmas conjugal. I wonder what flavor lube he likes?

JFK · 12-19-2012, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by omgt

welcome to the Thailand tourism discussion thread **********,
next week we'll be debating the best Thai beaches.

Phuket or Pattaya, which one is 1st ??

JFK · 12-19-2012, 07:50 AM

ten fitty..................derailed tax evasion threads

adultmobile · 12-19-2012, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Herrmann

Sorry to get back to topic again:

Yes, people here talking of Thai hookers not even noticed an XBIZ article is out:
http://www.xbiz.com/news/157695

Manwin today broke its silence over the ongoing investigation of Fabian Thylmann.
"Manwin?s managing partner is currently the subject of an investigation by the German tax authorities and accordingly, no conclusion was reached in this matter ? as of the date of this release.
Manwin?s global operations remain unaffected and, as is customary with our company, we will not comment on pending legal matters.
At this time, we request that the media respects the privacy of Manwin associates, employees, as well as their families. We are grateful for the support we received, and look forward to having this matter resolved. Until then, there will be no further comments."

This is no real news. But today 19th Dec, the Fabian's hearing day, could be happening in this moment or already done.

MaDalton · 12-19-2012, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by JFK

Phuket or Pattaya, which one is 1st ??

let's say: people dont go to Pattaya because the beach is so awesome there

MaDalton · 12-19-2012, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by adultmobile

This is no real news. But today 19th Dec, the Fabian's hearing day, could be happening in this moment or already done.

today they will decide about his injuction against Die Welt regarding their articles from September - not about his tax case

Phoenix · 12-19-2012, 08:06 AM

I love how the same group of people who support piracy in all threads always are the only ones in here trying to sway the conversation. Like it matters. This is a discussion room. Right now some serious people are looking at the books, seeing where the money is coming in and going out. Deciding whether or not Manwin and Fabian are breaking German Law for showing hardcore porn without age verification(please let it be this).

The moral high horse argument is very funny as well. AS if anyone working in the porn industry is automatically a scumbag who should be ok with stealing and any other immoral act. Meanwhile these idiots work in the porn industry, to some extent.

Yes it is all very amusing.

I dont do a lick of business with them...so i dont care overly.
However i bet if you checked, the people here defending them, get a good chunk of their income from them.

Who is up for some checks? Smokey still here?? he was a good detective.

JFK · 12-19-2012, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

let's say: people dont go to Pattaya because the beach is so awesome there

DamianJ · 12-19-2012, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

let's say: people dont go to Pattaya because the beach is so awesome there

qft, lol!

mikesouth · 12-19-2012, 09:19 AM

Today was not Fabians hearing day (the day is over in germany) today was the hearing for the newspaper thing that predates his arrest

to my knowledge no court date has been set for his tax fraud trial and the charges are tax fraud not tax evasion....I expect it will be quite a while before Fabian gets out of that German jail

mikesouth · 12-19-2012, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by **********

We had this real creep contact us a few years ago, who wanted to run a chat studio out of Thailand. "I can't tell you where it will be, and I can't show you the girls yet, but trust me we'll make millions" he said. He sounded like such a low life. He dropped words like "sex tourism" and how "The American laws are so bad" and "He wouldn't return to the US even if he could", etc etc. He just wreaked of scumbag. As soon as he started asking about ways to funnel money between 2 or 3 accounts I told him I'd call the FBI if he ever called back, and hung up.

Sounds like you were contacted by Donny Long....was his spelling horrid?

SZNY · 12-19-2012, 10:08 AM

New on FB
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Free-Y...34045?fref=tck

Porno Dan · 12-19-2012, 10:31 AM

Does anyone have any real new news on what is going to Fabian/Manwin

It has been two weeks since he has been arrested and to the best of my knowledge they haven't even said what they charged him with and what if anything is happening to the companies he owns.

adultmobile · 12-19-2012, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth

Today was not Fabians hearing day (the day is over in germany) today was the hearing for the newspaper thing that predates his arrest

Yes and newspaper won:

http://investigativ.welt.de/2012/12/...chef-thylmann/

"We won the dispute against YouPorn Chief Thylmann"

"Thylmann, and several of his companies obtained a temporary injunction against our coverage in October. First, he called 49 passages from our article by the Editorial Board to stop its spreading. We rejected that, then he moved to court. As a result of the preliminary court decision, our dossier could no longer be disseminated."

"At noon today, we went to the judgment of the Düsseldorf Regional Court. It is a victory all along the line: the Court ruled that we can further spread the critical cover story about Thylmann, his companies and business practices. The injunction was lifted - in all 18 points. "

"The Court trial delivered new insights. we were searching in Belgium for the current residence of Fabian Thylmanns, but it was the House of his parents, where he once lived: why the YouPorn boss registered several of his companies still on the home address of his parents?"

The original article is put back online:

http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschla...-die-Welt.html

You can translate with google translator or bing translator (works better with german), it is very long!
It claims Luxembourg headquarters of Manwin are empty. It mentions GFY board.
"In 2006 Thylmann sold his shares in the NATS company for a single-digit millions, as industry insiders estimate. So he comes to his starting capital. He buys my dirty hobby amateur German sex portal, and apparently also picks up loans. In 2009, He had been debt-free. But Thylmann wants more."
"By whom is the 362-million investment? The loan to the Luxembourg holding company has a height of 362 million dollars (276 million euros). Investors borrow the Aachener a nine-digit sum on April 28, 2011. It was a Wall Street hedge fund, Thylmann says in the "Hard Rock Hotel".
"The Cypriot documents do not reveal the origin of the money. But they call two other participating companies. The ****** in Delaware, and the **** from Chicago."

I wrote **** as I do not wish legal issues myself

signupdamnit · 12-19-2012, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by adultmobile

Yes and newspaper won:

http://investigativ.welt.de/2012/12/...chef-thylmann/

"We won the dispute against YouPorn Chief Thylmann"

"Thylmann, and several of his companies obtained a temporary injunction against our coverage in October. First, he called 49 passages from our article by the Editorial Board to stop its spreading. We rejected that, then he moved to court. As a result of the preliminary court decision, our dossier could no longer be disseminated."

"At noon today, we went to the judgment of the Düsseldorf Regional Court. It is a victory all along the line: the Court ruled that we can further spread the critical cover story about Thylmann, his companies and business practices. The injunction was lifted - in all 18 points. "

"The Court trial delivered new insights. we were searching in Belgium for the current residence of Fabian Thylmanns, but it was the House of his parents, where he once lived: why the YouPorn boss registered several of his companies still on the home address of his parents?"

The original article is put back online:

http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschla...-die-Welt.html

You can translate with google translator or bing translator (works better with german), it is very long!
It claims Luxembourg headquarters of Manwin are empty. It mentions GFY board.
"In 2006 Thylmann sold his shares in the NATS company for a single-digit millions, as industry insiders estimate. So he comes to his starting capital. He buys my dirty hobby amateur German sex portal, and apparently also picks up loans. In 2009, He had been debt-free. But Thylmann wants more."
"By whom is the 362-million investment? The loan to the Luxembourg holding company has a height of 362 million dollars (276 million euros). Investors borrow the Aachener a nine-digit sum on April 28, 2011. It was a Wall Street hedge fund, Thylmann says in the "Hard Rock Hotel".
"The Cypriot documents do not reveal the origin of the money. But they call two other participating companies. The ****** in Delaware, and the **** from Chicago."

I wrote **** as I do not wish legal issues myself

YES! It's good to see someone is helping to take out the TRASH in this industry or at least things are starting to move in that direction.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 12-19-2012, 12:06 PM

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The Court trial against Thylmann delivered but also some new, interesting insights from our point of view. An example: Apparently we were during our research trip to Belgium before the current residence of Fabian Thylmanns, but outside the House of his parents, where he once lived according to its own figures. But it raises the question: why the YouPorn boss signed several of his companies still on the home address of his parents?

SOURCE: http://investigativ.welt.de/2012/12/...chef-thylmann/ (Translation using Bing Translator)

So Manwin was headquartered in Fabian's parents basement?

I don't know about your parents, but mine would be pissed if news like this was plastered all over the country/world.

Nathan (Fabian) is probably going to get grounded by his parents when he gets out of jail - and with no internet privileges for awhile (so he has time to think about what he did).

ADG

HushMoney · 12-19-2012, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by adultmobile

The original article is put back online:

http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschla...-die-Welt.html

interesting read!

GonZo · 12-19-2012, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

SOURCE: http://investigativ.welt.de/2012/12/...chef-thylmann/ (Translation using Bing Translator)

So Manwin was headquartered in Fabian's parents basement?

I don't know about your parents, but mine would be pissed if news like this was plastered all over the country/world.

Nathan (Fabian) is probably going to get grounded by his parents when he gets out of jail - and with no internet privileges for awhile (so he has time to think about what he did).

ADG

"Nothing we do is left to chance, everything is planned.".

Roald · 12-19-2012, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by HushMoney

interesting read!

just finshed reading the complete article but was wondering what is in it that wasn't out yet?

adultmobile · 12-19-2012, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Roald

just finshed reading the complete article but was wondering what is in it that wasn't out yet?

Who gave the loan, for example.

ReggieDurango · 12-19-2012, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by adultmobile

Who gave the loan

Exactly. I think that's the big info being released in this.

Robbie · 12-19-2012, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Nickatilynx

Robbie,
I met al4a back in the day at show when I was wandering around with Greenguy...he didn't look like you. LOL

Must be a hellofa view up on that high horse , Robbie ;)

Al was my partner...guess you didn't know every thing you THINK you knew.

DWB · 12-19-2012, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by adultmobile

Yes and newspaper won:

http://investigativ.welt.de/2012/12/...chef-thylmann/

"We won the dispute against YouPorn Chief Thylmann"

"Thylmann, and several of his companies obtained a temporary injunction against our coverage in October. First, he called 49 passages from our article by the Editorial Board to stop its spreading. We rejected that, then he moved to court. As a result of the preliminary court decision, our dossier could no longer be disseminated."

"At noon today, we went to the judgment of the Düsseldorf Regional Court. It is a victory all along the line: the Court ruled that we can further spread the critical cover story about Thylmann, his companies and business practices. The injunction was lifted - in all 18 points. "

"The Court trial delivered new insights. we were searching in Belgium for the current residence of Fabian Thylmanns, but it was the House of his parents, where he once lived: why the YouPorn boss registered several of his companies still on the home address of his parents?"

The original article is put back online:

http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschla...-die-Welt.html

You can translate with google translator or bing translator (works better with german), it is very long!
It claims Luxembourg headquarters of Manwin are empty. It mentions GFY board.
"In 2006 Thylmann sold his shares in the NATS company for a single-digit millions, as industry insiders estimate. So he comes to his starting capital. He buys my dirty hobby amateur German sex portal, and apparently also picks up loans. In 2009, He had been debt-free. But Thylmann wants more."
"By whom is the 362-million investment? The loan to the Luxembourg holding company has a height of 362 million dollars (276 million euros). Investors borrow the Aachener a nine-digit sum on April 28, 2011. It was a Wall Street hedge fund, Thylmann says in the "Hard Rock Hotel".
"The Cypriot documents do not reveal the origin of the money. But they call two other participating companies. The ****** in Delaware, and the **** from Chicago."

I wrote **** as I do not wish legal issues myself

Good to see he can't buy or bully everyone.

As someone so brilliantly said somewhere else in this thread, sometimes you Manwin and sometimes you Manlose.

DWB · 12-19-2012, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by **********

We had this real creep contact us a few years ago, who wanted to run a chat studio out of Thailand. "I can't tell you where it will be, and I can't show you the girls yet, but trust me we'll make millions" he said. He sounded like such a low life. He dropped words like "sex tourism" and how "The American laws are so bad" and "He wouldn't return to the US even if he could", etc etc. He just wreaked of scumbag. As soon as he started asking about ways to funnel money between 2 or 3 accounts I told him I'd call the FBI if he ever called back, and hung up.

Yikes. Sounds like a dirt bag.

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Originally Posted by adultmobile

Yes, people here talking of Thai hookers not even noticed an XBIZ article is out:
http://www.xbiz.com/news/157695

Because Thai hookers are more important to me. I actually make money with them.

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Originally Posted by adultmobile

Manwin today broke its silence over the ongoing investigation of Fabian Thylmann.
"Manwin?s managing partner is currently the subject of an investigation by the German tax authorities and accordingly, no conclusion was reached in this matter ? as of the date of this release.
Manwin?s global operations remain unaffected and, as is customary with our company, we will not comment on pending legal matters.
At this time, we request that the media respects the privacy of Manwin associates, employees, as well as their families. We are grateful for the support we received, and look forward to having this matter resolved. Until then, there will be no further comments."

So much for, "it's personal taxes."

Roald · 12-19-2012, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by adultmobile

Who gave the loan, for example.

"The Cypriot documents do not reveal the origin of the money. But they call two other participating companies. The ****** in Delaware, and the **** from Chicago."

So who gave the loan?

Reading on my phone so perhaps I'm missing parts here...

signupdamnit · 12-19-2012, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Roald

"The Cypriot documents do not reveal the origin of the money. But they call two other participating companies. The ****** in Delaware, and the **** from Chicago."

So who gave the loan?

Reading on my phone so perhaps I'm missing parts here...

Just call your good buddies at Manwin and ask them, Roald.

Okay here's the relevant quote:

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Die zypriotischen Dokumente verraten die Herkunft des Geldes nicht. Aber sie nennen zwei weitere beteiligte Firmen. Die CB Agency Services LLC im US-Bundesstaat Delaware, der als Steueroase bekannt ist, und die Cortland Capital Markets Services LLC, einen Finanzdienstleister aus Chicago.

http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschla...-die-Welt.html

Qbert · 12-19-2012, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Roald

So who gave the loan?

I'm no expert, but Delaware and Chicago don't sound like Wall Street investment banks.

Roald · 12-19-2012, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit

Just call your good buddies at Manwin and ask them, Roald.

Okay here's the relevant quote:

http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschla...-die-Welt.html

Yes saw that but it doesn't say they are the ones behind it right?

And if they are what more is there to be found about these companies? The names alone don't say a whole lot.

DWB · 12-19-2012, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald

"The Cypriot documents do not reveal the origin of the money. But they call two other participating companies. The ****** in Delaware, and the **** from Chicago."

So who gave the loan?

Reading on my phone so perhaps I'm missing parts here...

Why **** out the names?

Translated:

The Cypriot documents do not reveal the source of the money. But they call two more companies involved. The CB Agency Services LLC in the State of Delaware, known as a tax haven, and Cortland Capital Markets Services LLC, a financial services company in Chicago.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 12-19-2012, 02:15 PM

Lots of tidbits starting to come out...

Quote:

The German site of the company is Hamburg. According to the commercial register entry, the Managing Director of the Hamburg site Manwin Germany is Alexander Pschorr since May, 2012. The Hamburg-based company operates among the German-speaking customer support for the Web sites of the group. In the books a loss reported for the fiscal year 2010 of around 32,000 euros. The figures for the year 2011 are not yet in public sources available.

Better make another batch of popcorn, the second act is about to begin...

ADG

SZNY · 12-19-2012, 02:20 PM

Interesting article only wondering if their cam models/actresses are not in panic because of this situation and foreign tax structure.

With a bit of creative story writing this can be a Hollywood movie

DWB · 12-19-2012, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qbert

I'm no expert, but Delaware and Chicago don't sound like Wall Street investment banks.

According to online info, both of those companies are only a few years old. Doesn't look like they could be the source of the money.

L-Pink · 12-19-2012, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SZNY

With a bit of creative story writing this can be a Hollywood movie

Too bad John Candy is dead he would make a good fabian.

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