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DWB · 12-18-2012, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix

I think Fabien is just setting himself up to be the overlord once the Zombie apocalypse hits on Dec 21st. How could we not see this brilliant move? Remain safe behind bars, then come out once the slaughter is over.

That's what I'm thinking too. Best place to be on the 21st is in protective custody, locked up in a cell, surrounded by armed police.

Fabian is a LOT smarter than we all give him credit for. He's gonna run more than the interwebs when he gets out of the joint.

Robbie · 12-18-2012, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Shap

I think you are trying to be funny. Either that or you are a fuckin idiot. The guy has two young daughters. You think he'd rather be in jail than at home?

I think he was making a joke.

As for Fabian and his 2 young daughters...I have two daughters as well. And watching our income as an affiliate fall to pieces while Manwin led the way in piracy and had a nice helping hand in decimating the paysite business over the past few years has meant that my 2 daughters won't have all the great things I had planned for them.

I don't know Fabian personally. But I do know that I spent the last couple of years warning him that if he didn't chill the hell out he was gonna end up in jail.

I hope he sits his fat ass in there as long as possible. And I hope that the authorities use this charge on his taxes as a way to get into the books of the entire company and shred it.

A huge portion of that money is based on the hard work of other companies who had their content stolen and devalued while Manwin raked in the ad money from the traffic.

I'm doing better than most...and when I think of the things that my own two daughters should have had if the affiliate side of my business had continued to grow exponentially as it did from 1996 to 2008, I feel NO sympathy for Fabian. And I can only imagine what those less fortunate than I am in this business are going through right now because of piracy.

He knew what he was doing is wrong. And like every internet thief...he hid behind the DMCA law and laughed while others lost their ass.

xXXtesy10 · 12-18-2012, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by xanadu

The authorities and the public eye is upon us. And not in a nice way. I think, we should be careful, as our individual actions can represent the whole industry in times like

We have read and heard endless rumors the last days about the case. Whoever has information about illegal activites, should go to the authorities and report them. Playing the keyboard warrior on gfy doesn't help much ;)

You sure are naive to think this has not been done already, or just plain stupid.

Due · 12-18-2012, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by xXXtesy10

You sure are naive to think this has not been done already, or just plain stupid.

Most people that participate in these outings are just silly little keyboard warriors with nothing else going for them.
Like you as example.
If you had anything of substance to your name I'm sure you would be all over the place with it.
You do not appear to be the type of person who want to stay out of the spotlight. You can keep telling yourself that if it helps, your the only one you are fooling here

Captain Kawaii · 12-18-2012, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by robbie

i think he was making a joke.

as for fabian and his 2 young daughters...i have two daughters as well. And watching our income as an affiliate fall to pieces while manwin led the way in piracy and had a nice helping hand in decimating the paysite business over the past few years has meant that my 2 daughters won't have all the great things i had planned for them.

I don't know fabian personally. But i do know that i spent the last couple of years warning him that if he didn't chill the hell out he was gonna end up in jail.

I hope he sits his fat ass in there as long as possible. And i hope that the authorities use this charge on his taxes as a way to get into the books of the entire company and shred it.

A huge portion of that money is based on the hard work of other companies who had their content stolen and devalued while manwin raked in the ad money from the traffic.

I'm doing better than most...and when i think of the things that my own two daughters should have had if the affiliate side of my business had continued to grow exponentially as it did from 1996 to 2008, i feel no sympathy for fabian. And i can only imagine what those less fortunate than i am in this business are going through right now because of piracy.

He knew what he was doing is wrong. And like every internet thief...he hid behind the dmca law and laughed while others lost their ass.

amen!!!!!!!!!!

crazydollars · 12-18-2012, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

..I have two daughters as well. And watching our income as an affiliate fall to pieces while Manwin led the way in piracy and had a nice helping hand in decimating the paysite business over the past few years has meant that my 2 daughters won't have all the great things I had planned for them.

time to get a job, loser

xXXtesy10 · 12-18-2012, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Due

Most people that participate in these outings are just silly little keyboard warriors with nothing else going for them.
Like you as example.
If you had anything of substance to your name I'm sure you would be all over the place with it.
You do not appear to be the type of person who want to stay out of the spotlight. You can keep telling yourself that if it helps, your the only one you are fooling here

Another ESL success story, have luck.

xXXtesy10 · 12-18-2012, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by crazydollars

time to get a job, loser

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 12-18-2012, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by xXXtesy10

DJ?

ADG

L-Pink · 12-18-2012, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by crazydollars

time to get a job, loser

Haha, Lawrence Conner! You jealous because fabien might be getting his ass drilled and you aren't?

adultmobile · 12-18-2012, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB

Most people caught evading taxes blame it on their accountants and tax advisers. It does not help their case.

You've read only the first line

Fabian is the legally liable one, he can't blame (non-German) accountants as defense strategy. But Fabian did not started any tube, he simply got 362 million by someone with the deal to buy most tubes.

While buying cam ads, a non-Manwin (still big) tube owner told me in ICQ, right before he sold to Manwin, that he was concerned of the hosting bill: losing just 1 (one) advertiser last minute, or 1 (one) non-renewal, meant immediate debt, he can't pay hoster, ha to go offline or redirect away countries (India, Brazil,...).
Now 362 million shared to a few tubes are a big help, not just for scale economy, but in some extent to "keep it up" as big, or bigger, rather than collapse, and shrink.

So, blame the anonymous ones who inject 362 million in the tubes economy, not Fabian, if you are a tube hater. Cyprus is made by them, to keep anonymity, more than for Tax evasion. They are conservative church, synagogue, mosque republican senators, who can lose reputation, not mafia, gangsters as someone thinks.

Due · 12-18-2012, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by xXXtesy10

Another ESL success story, have luck.

ESL = English Second Language ?
Thanks appreciate it. I lived in 3 different countries before I turned 30, USA is the first English speaking country.

Now you know my story, tell me yours

Tasty1 · 12-18-2012, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Shap

I think you are trying to be funny. Either that or you are a fuckin idiot. The guy has two young daughters. You think he'd rather be in jail than at home?

Both. I think, the last thing i would worry about is not being at home even if i had kids. People are acting if that would be the end of the world missing a Christmas.... I wouldn't care, he has time and money enough to spent time with his kids later. There are a lot of families who's parents aren't at home or not able to even buy something for Christmas. Divorced, working on oil platforms, working in hotels etcetra etcetra. And Robbie also has right, a lot of people have seen an income drop bcause of piracy. So maybe i am an idiot, you act like if missing Christmas is the end of the world.... wait maybe it is! The 21th is coming soon!

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 12-18-2012, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by xanadu

Tony I was running private.com /privatecash.com for a few years...

You were the CEO/President running Private.com? I did not know that, unless by "running", you meant something different, like you were a manager at Private, and it sure felt like you were running the company.

Please elaborate...so did you work for Berth Milton, the disgraced CEO that was fired, or Charles Prast the new CEO? (Prast was a key player in the iBill/Penthouse debacle as I recall - interesting to see where these people resurface).

ADG

xanadu · 12-18-2012, 05:13 PM

ADG, PRVT used to have and still does a lot more things than the websites, i was the online director, in charge of the paysite and the aff.program, of course i wasnt the ceo lol

Was in the times of Milton and I left when Ilan came and the gamelink deal happened...

why u respond like this man? i didnt write it to brag or anything...

OneHungLo · 12-18-2012, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

You were the CEO/President running Private.com? I did not know that, unless by "running", you meant something different, like you were a manager at Private, and it sure felt like you were running the company.

Please elaborate...so did you work for Berth Milton, the disgraced CEO that was fired, or Charles Prast the new CEO? (Prast was a key player in the iBill/Penthouse debacle as I recall - interesting to see where these people resurface).

ADG

soooofuckingbannedddddd

TrustedJ · 12-18-2012, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix

I think Fabien is just setting himself up to be the overlord once the Zombie apocalypse hits on Dec 21st. How could we not see this brilliant move? Remain safe behind bars, then come out once the slaughter is over.

I knew it! I heard he got the idea from The Walking Dead!

BlackAndBlue · 12-18-2012, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by xanadu

I find it a bit surreal that the thread is mostly around who is the biggest bro, who is more into Fabians pants or has more dirty gossip to tell....

As correctly was posted above, we all know too little to make such judgements. Rumors trust me I have heard more than probably anyone at this board...Facts very little though.

We have been watching during the the last days, a very serious case, the arrest of Fabian Thylmann, managing parter of Manwin in Belgium and his extradiction to Germany.

Its probably the news about the adult industry that most have appeared in the mainstream press in the last decades.....

Unfortunaltely its for a negative reason, once again.

Aside from personal opinions, disagreements on their business model etc, Manwin is without a doubt the largest financially company of our industry and F. Thylmann one of the leaders and most prominent persons, thus a very nice target...

All this happening now, apart from the personal implications and the company issues that can arise, is first of all a very negative developement for all the adult industry, shortly after measureb has been voted.

I would wish that our industry, that even today is being discriminated in many countries of the world to be very careful about this case. I always try to see the big picture and in this, doesnt look good....

The authorities and the public eye is upon us. And not in a nice way. I think, we should be careful, as our individual actions can represent the whole industry in times like this.

We should have in mind that the possibility of the adult industry being used as a scape goat could easily exist and be an easy solution for goverments that are in a difficult position due to the global economic crisis and mainstream media always hungry for attention and catchy topics.

We have read and heard endless rumors the last days about the case. Whoever has information about illegal activites, should go to the authorities and report them. Playing the keyboard warrior on gfy doesn't help much ;)

However, I care more that the members of the industry would also think of how to support the industry and our community and not the opposite.

As an industry we must united make sure that F. Thylmann and Manwin are treated by the authorities as a normal individual and company and not as an ad hoc "evil" due to the nature of our industry. If proven guilty pay of course the price that corresponds to it as anyone.

I dont think that if proven guilty or the charges are worse than what it seems so far, its good for our industry as a total. Some even find it funny to make escape stories, I get the joke as well, but would it be good for the image of the adult industry if such thing happened?

So far the official news, report of a possible tax evasion and according to Manwin might be even a personal issue. Things could be different, but so far I have not read something official that support this. If/when it happens then would make sense to talk on a different basis, now I personally find it a bit irresponsible....

If Fabian it out in a few days by just paying a fine, will be funny times on gfy :p

Wouldn't it look much better on the industry as a whole if we all turned our backs on the largest and most easily accessed source of non-age verifying sites offering hardcore PORN going today?

Manwin's tube sites have gone unregulated and unfettered for how long? And they have caused a lot of the evil eye turned against the adult industry, because as a whole this industry "associates" with Manwin and lets Manwin taint this industry with that tacit approval of their shady ways of doing business.

Every adult business entity that does business with Manwin and their band of backers and shell companies hurts this industry more than anything Manwin is charged with can ever hurt this industry.

omgt · 12-18-2012, 05:29 PM

im trying to imagine how (and in what context) (bearing in mind the formality)
anyone would put "faggoted up" on a resume.

"Hey dude i want the job because i just faggoted up at acme marketing, but what the hell i want to work here instead - dude"

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

You were the CEO/President running Private.com? I did not know that, unless by "running", you meant something different, like you were a manager at Private, and it sure felt like you were running the company.

Please elaborate...so did you work for Berth Milton, the disgraced CEO that was fired, or Charles Prast the new CEO? (Prast was a key player in the iBill/Penthouse debacle as I recall - interesting to see where these people resurface).

ADG

xanadu · 12-18-2012, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackAndBlue

Wouldn't it look much better on the industry as a whole if we all turned our backs on the largest and most easily accessed source of non-age verifying sites offering hardcore PORN going today?

Manwin's tube sites have gone unregulated and unfettered for how long? And they have caused a lot of the evil eye turned against the adult industry, because as a whole this industry "associates" with Manwin and lets Manwin taint this industry with that tacit approval of their shady ways of doing business.

Every adult business entity that does business with Manwin and their band of backers and shell companies hurts this industry more than anything Manwin is charged with can ever hurt this industry.

here you touch a very interesting aspect, but its not only Manwin....Imagine there is no porn available without a cc... I am sure the studios and producers(the real pornographers as was discussed above and I dont say it ironically) would be more than happy. What about the ones that do the marketing, the affiliates? Would it put them out of the game or not?

MaDalton · 12-18-2012, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by xanadu

here you touch a very interesting aspect, but its not only Manwin....Imagine there is no porn available without a cc... I am sure the studios and producers(the real pornographers as was discussed above and I dont say it ironically) would be more than happy. What about the ones that do the marketing, the affiliates? Would it put them out of the game or not?

there are german webmasters that promote german sites with age verification and they earn money

JP-pornshooter · 12-18-2012, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Shap

I think you are trying to be funny. Either that or you are a fuckin idiot. The guy has two young daughters. You think he'd rather be in jail than at home?

Perhaps Fabien should rethink his career choice if he has priorities being a family man.
Cheating by using other people's artistic properties, cheating the German government for tax income, probably cheating in many other ways - how can he think that at some point it is not going to catch up with him?

philguy · 12-18-2012, 06:15 PM

Moral porn peddlers make me absolutely fucking nauseous. The "real" content providers; trolling social networks to find 17 year olds, hoping to grab them when they turn 18. "Real" businessmen whining about content theft and promoting dating sites; who, by the way, never lifted a single profile photo. Small providers; worshipping the likes of ccbill, who certainly didn't make their money processing MILF sites. Dialers, forced cross sales, banging CC's, naturalist sites, beast sites, rape, incest, installs, etc., etc.,

I'm a "real" pornographer...I only take some confused, abused, naive little girl on her 18th birthday, dress her up in pigtails, make her look as young as possible and assfuck her on film, I deserve respect!

Pissant porn peddlers are like the fox news viewers of the internet; content with living in denial and being stupid.

No, I'm not manwin - I don't know shit about them other than they have almost half as much traffic as google, but for even a taste of their traffic, I'd throw 99% of you into a forced homeless rimjob marathon and laugh about it...all the way to the bank.

All this is overlooked by the down's baby version of luke ford and his lackey.

The same thing happened with TGP's. The same thing happened with MPG's.

You might notice...if half of you had a brain, those with phenomenal content aren't here bitching. They're too busy counting their money. Filming some meth hags in south florida getting splattered with jigg jizz, or ass infected tranny's in some wannabe opium den doesn't count as phenomenal content btw.

signupdamnit · 12-18-2012, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by xanadu

here you touch a very interesting aspect, but its not only Manwin....Imagine there is no porn available without a cc... I am sure the studios and producers(the real pornographers as was discussed above and I dont say it ironically) would be more than happy. What about the ones that do the marketing, the affiliates? Would it put them out of the game or not?

Are you kidding, Xanadu? How long have you been around the industry man? Back in the days when AVS thrived 1:200 conversion rates were common. As an affiliate you could make a middle class living just by submitting a 30 picture site once a week and living off of the AVS system's internal link list. You didn't need to do anything else. It was a fucking gold mine.

Today it's piracy which is putting the affiliate out of business combined with the short sidedness of many sponsors. I barely use sponsor content anymore. It's mostly crap. I can't compete with two minute promo clips when pornhub has 1,000 of the sponsor's full scenes or 7 minute promo clips the sponsor is giving them. I can't compete in Google when those promo clips are seen as duplicate content and the fucking pirate tube is seen as an massive original content provider. It isn't worth it. I have to bring in traffic with other content and increasingly I have to monetize outside of using affiliate programs because they all mostly convert 1:2,000 or worse.

As an affiliate would I go back to the days of AVS? You bet I would. You can come and chop off my right arm right now man if it meant in return hardcore porn would be illegal without a credit card worldwide. Hell maybe my left one too!

.....But this isn't the issue. My issue with Manwin isn't that I want free hardcore porn to be illegal. My issue is that they are fucking thieves. I don't mind losing business or adapting. I do mind some fucking scumbags cheating their way to the top and fucking over honest people though. Do that and I say "burn in hell!" I make no apologies. Why should the good people in this industry (and there are good people) be screwed over because of scumbags?

rabbit · 12-18-2012, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by philguy

Moral porn peddlers make me absolutely fucking nauseous. .

what he said. minus the forced homeless rimjob

xanadu · 12-18-2012, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit

As an affiliate would I go back to the days of AVS? You bet I would. You can come and chop off my right arm right now man if it meant in return hardcore porn would be illegal without a credit card worldwide. Hell maybe my left one too!

you really think it will be like in the AVS days?? Even if this happens will be something different and probably the ones that are more illegal will benefit as they wouldnt comply...

DWB · 12-18-2012, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackAndBlue

Wouldn't it look much better on the industry as a whole if we all turned our backs on the largest and most easily accessed source of non-age verifying sites offering hardcore PORN going today?

Manwin's tube sites have gone unregulated and unfettered for how long? And they have caused a lot of the evil eye turned against the adult industry, because as a whole this industry "associates" with Manwin and lets Manwin taint this industry with that tacit approval of their shady ways of doing business.

Every adult business entity that does business with Manwin and their band of backers and shell companies hurts this industry more than anything Manwin is charged with can ever hurt this industry.

Great post and probably one of the most logical ones in this entire thread.

If that doesn't bite them in the ass now, it will eventually. Allowing minors such blatant exposure to hardcore porn is not a good thing for the industry. It makes us all look bad. I have always found it ironic that everyone will put warning pages on their sites and warnings on DVDs, then submit videos to the tubes via their partner account which have no warning whatsoever. They can't even pretend they are trying to prevent minors from accessing the content, because they are not. This won't end well, you can count on that much.

Robbie · 12-18-2012, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by philguy

I'm a "real" pornographer...I only take some confused, abused, naive little girl on her 18th birthday, dress her up in pigtails, make her look as young as possible and assfuck her on film, I deserve respect!

Don't know where you find THOSE 18 year old girls.
Most of the 18 year old women I know are greedy, manipulative, and have a sex drive that would eat your flaccid penis up and spit it out.

signupdamnit · 12-18-2012, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by xanadu

you really think it will be like in the AVS days?? Even if this happens will be something different and probably the ones that are more illegal will benefit as they wouldnt comply...

You caught me before I added on to it.

I'm not naive. I know it isn't likely that there will be effective worldwide legislation and enforcement. We were only speaking in theory about whether it would be better for content providers, affiliates, and pretty much the whole industry if hardcore free porn were banned and the answer to that is....HELL YES!

But again free porn isn't my main issue with Manwin nor do I think that's the issue most have with them. My issue is that they are thieves and cheats. More specifically they built their business on theft and piracy.

Shap · 12-18-2012, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JP-pornshooter

Perhaps Fabien should rethink his career choice if he has priorities being a family man.
Cheating by using other people's artistic properties, cheating the German government for tax income, probably cheating in many other ways - how can he think that at some point it is not going to catch up with him?

My comment was in reference to Bjorn's comment that he'd rather be in jail than with family. I don't know any dad who would ever say that.

DWB · 12-18-2012, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by philguy

Filming some meth hags in south florida getting splattered with jigg jizz, or ass infected tranny's in some wannabe opium den doesn't count as phenomenal content btw.

Wut? Who has trannies fucking in an opium den?

Can't think of anything more awesome than that.

Robbie · 12-18-2012, 06:36 PM

philguy
This message is hidden because philguy is on your ignore list.

There, that's better.

philguy · 12-18-2012, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Don't know where you find THOSE 18 year old girls.
Most of the 18 year old women I know are greedy, manipulative, and have a sex drive that would eat your flaccid penis up and spit it out.

Damn...is that hag in your avatar what you're promoting? I can't blame you for being pissed. Not even one beast webmaster would waste traffic on that. You can't really blame tubes for that shit though.

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Originally Posted by DWB

Wut? Who has trannies fucking in an opium den?

Can't think of anything more awesome than that.

Congratulations...you learned how to use bold type on the interwebs.

You are a mighty force of 000's and 111's.

omgt · 12-18-2012, 06:42 PM

Thats what i thought !
I must say i was annoyed he did'nt include google maps though - how the fuck do we get there without a map ?

No, Im more upmarket though, "meth hags in south florida getting splattered with jigg jizz"
thats more my bag any day of the week.

Ive been looking for meth hags in south florida since January 14th 2007 - bit of a rarity these days.
if only this forum had google maps incorporated into it.

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Originally Posted by DWB

Wut? Who has trannies fucking in an opium den?

Can't think of anything more awesome than that.

Shap · 12-18-2012, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by philguy

Damn...is that hag in your avatar what you're promoting? I can't blame you for being pissed. Not even one beast webmaster would waste traffic on that. You can't really blame tubes for that shit though.

That's his wife.

omgt · 12-18-2012, 06:50 PM

something has brought out some anger
https://gfy.com/search.php?searchid=4431826

philguy · 12-18-2012, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Shap

That's his wife.

ahahaahaha

notinmybackyard · 12-18-2012, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by philguy

I'm a "real" pornographer...I only take some confused, abused, naive little girl on her 18th birthday, dress her up in pigtails, make her look as young as possible and assfuck her on film.

Not unlike United States military recruiters that get lists from local high schools of young men and women (in some cases not even 18 years old). Then contacting them at their homes, part time jobs, etc. Trying to get them to enlist in the military after they graduate highschool. Always filling their heads with stories about adventure, patriotism and heroism.

Perhaps it is the influence of the 1960s on me. But somehow I think turning young innocent men and women into killers or perhaps into stone cold corpses to be sent home in body bags is far far worse than my paying them to have sex while I film it.

Speaking only for myself... I have never and never will film anyone that appears to be confused, abused and naive on their 18th birthday. However I know of at least 3 girls that are adults today... That have uploaded pornographic videos of themselves to tube sites when they were still minors. One of them was outright fucking her boyfriend at 15 and uploading the video to various tube sites. From what I have been told, the links are still valid.

Just to be clear... Despite that those girls are legally adults today, I have never filmed any of them and I never will. I have no desire to be any where close to this sort of garbage.

Robbie · 12-18-2012, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Shap

That's his wife.

Correction...that's my AVN Award nominated wife!

BlackAndBlue · 12-18-2012, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by xanadu

here you touch a very interesting aspect, but its not only Manwin....Imagine there is no porn available without a cc... I am sure the studios and producers(the real pornographers as was discussed above and I dont say it ironically) would be more than happy. What about the ones that do the marketing, the affiliates? Would it put them out of the game or not?

Absolutely not a problem because the affiliate model has practically gone bust because the people running those affiliate sites never comprehended that by giving away so much free hardcore content, getting anyone to join a program so they could actually make money went away!

The owners of those affiliate programs bought the idea that they should give away hardcore content to affiliates for their link sites and then felt the effects of training the public to not pay for their own product.

"Marketing" shouldn't be left to affiliates anyway, and I don't just say that because I am a professional publicist and marketer. I say it because every company should have control over how their image and product is presented to the potential consumer, and the majority of affiliate sites have always had a poor track record of accomplishing that.

And thank you DWB . . . sometimes I'm logical. ;)

xXXtesy10 · 12-18-2012, 09:27 PM

omgt · 12-18-2012, 10:24 PM

would it be possible to reassess your decision to keep putting pictures of men with their penises (they usually only have one) out, as it makes it slightly more difficult to read this thread.

thank you

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omgt · 12-18-2012, 10:26 PM

ps - what has it got to do with this ?

if it was funny then ok, .............. but ?

[Labret] · 12-18-2012, 11:10 PM

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I agree 100%.

AutumnBH · 12-18-2012, 11:10 PM

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what he said. minus the forced homeless rimjob

I agree. I find the selective morality of certain self styled "pornographers" hilarious. They try to cast copyright infringement as a moral issue when really it's simply a financial issue.

It's OK to profit from desperate girls with fake IDs who clearly don't want to be there (and in Thailand, who don't realize they're about to be splashed all over the internet and barebacked by someone with a very high HIV risk)...

It's OK to profit for years and years from PPS programs that bang cards on the back end...

It's OK to profit from programs that will ruthlessly bulk mail every email address you send them...

It's OK to profit as an affiliate for programs that steal content from newsgroups, from magazines, from illegal DVD rips, from social networking sites...

It's OK to run your sites on a biller that made it's buck from child porn...

It's OK to run large free sites that show vast amounts of free porn to underage viewers and that for years and years have contributed to the hypersexualization of children...

It's even OK to have your top trade with a pirate site that built it's traffic on piracy, just as long as they've got big traffic to send...

But put my McDonald's quality smut on your website and fail to give me my piece?

FUCK YOU I HOPE YOU GET GANG RAPED IN PRISON.

epitome · 12-18-2012, 11:32 PM

Another detailed thread on GFY. I never saw this coming.

steffie · 12-18-2012, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit

Are you kidding, Xanadu? How long have you been around the industry man? Back in the days when AVS thrived 1:200 conversion rates were common. As an affiliate you could make a middle class living just by submitting a 30 picture site once a week and living off of the AVS system's internal link list. You didn't need to do anything else. It was a fucking gold mine.

Today it's piracy which is putting the affiliate out of business combined with the short sidedness of many sponsors. I barely use sponsor content anymore. It's mostly crap. I can't compete with two minute promo clips when pornhub has 1,000 of the sponsor's full scenes or 7 minute promo clips the sponsor is giving them. I can't compete in Google when those promo clips are seen as duplicate content and the fucking pirate tube is seen as an massive original content provider. It isn't worth it. I have to bring in traffic with other content and increasingly I have to monetize outside of using affiliate programs because they all mostly convert 1:2,000 or worse.

As an affiliate would I go back to the days of AVS? You bet I would. You can come and chop off my right arm right now man if it meant in return hardcore porn would be illegal without a credit card worldwide. Hell maybe my left one too!

.....But this isn't the issue. My issue with Manwin isn't that I want free hardcore porn to be illegal. My issue is that they are fucking thieves. I don't mind losing business or adapting. I do mind some fucking scumbags cheating their way to the top and fucking over honest people though. Do that and I say "burn in hell!" I make no apologies. Why should the good people in this industry (and there are good people) be screwed over because of scumbags?

The Hun. Peace!

Mutt · 12-18-2012, 11:54 PM

The immoral relativists always come bounding in drooling like Pavlov's dog into threads like this. They are seriously guilt ridden people with very low morals that extend beyond the porn industry. In an attempt to make themselves feel better about themselves they will spew a litany of immoral and unethical acts which others are engaged in - they will do their best to paint as many people as possible as scumbags, so they don't feel so bad about themselves because if 'everybody's doing it' it somehow makes them less of a piece of shit.

They are almost always at the end of the day - snitches.

omgt · 12-18-2012, 11:55 PM

from your private collection i assume

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Originally Posted by [Labret]

I agree 100%.

AutumnBH · 12-19-2012, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

The immoral relativists always come bounding in drooling like Pavlov's dog into threads like this. They are seriously guilt ridden people with very low morals that extend beyond the porn industry. In an attempt to make themselves feel better about themselves they will spew a litany of immoral and unethical acts which others are engaged in - they will do their best to paint as many people as possible as scumbags, so they don't feel so bad about themselves because if 'everybody's doing it' it somehow makes them less of a piece of shit.

They are almost always at the end of the day - snitches.

The logic of that escapes me to be honest, you're reaching a bit there and avoiding the point...

I find it curious that the "pornographer" crowd feels that they can differentiate the single issue of copyright infringement (which isn't even theft, people need to get their terminology right), when there is a plethora of other bad shit in porn that conveniently gets ignored during the piracy discussion.

I work with search engines and text all day every day, and I haven't had a site with pictures or videos on it for literally years and years. However I don't personally particularly care about the moral ramifications of the porn industry that I was pointing out above - I just find if funny that others refuse to acknowledge what are really entrenched and endemic issues in the online porn industry, when they are so vocal and self righteous when it comes to piracy.

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12-18-2012, 11:54 PM	#948
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	The immoral relativists always come bounding in drooling like Pavlov's dog into threads like this. They are seriously guilt ridden people with very low morals that extend beyond the porn industry. In an attempt to make themselves feel better about themselves they will spew a litany of immoral and unethical acts which others are engaged in - they will do their best to paint as many people as possible as scumbags, so they don't feel so bad about themselves because if 'everybody's doing it' it somehow makes them less of a piece of shit. They are almost always at the end of the day - snitches. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

12-18-2012, 06:15 PM	#923
philguy Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 125	Moral porn peddlers make me absolutely fucking nauseous. The "real" content providers; trolling social networks to find 17 year olds, hoping to grab them when they turn 18. "Real" businessmen whining about content theft and promoting dating sites; who, by the way, never lifted a single profile photo. Small providers; worshipping the likes of ccbill, who certainly didn't make their money processing MILF sites. Dialers, forced cross sales, banging CC's, naturalist sites, beast sites, rape, incest, installs, etc., etc., I'm a "real" pornographer...I only take some confused, abused, naive little girl on her 18th birthday, dress her up in pigtails, make her look as young as possible and assfuck her on film, I deserve respect! Pissant porn peddlers are like the fox news viewers of the internet; content with living in denial and being stupid. No, I'm not manwin - I don't know shit about them other than they have almost half as much traffic as google, but for even a taste of their traffic, I'd throw 99% of you into a forced homeless rimjob marathon and laugh about it...all the way to the bank. All this is overlooked by the down's baby version of luke ford and his lackey. The same thing happened with TGP's. The same thing happened with MPG's. You might notice...if half of you had a brain, those with phenomenal content aren't here bitching. They're too busy counting their money. Filming some meth hags in south florida getting splattered with jigg jizz, or ass infected tranny's in some wannabe opium den doesn't count as phenomenal content btw.

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12-18-2012, 10:26 PM	#943
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