December 7, 1941. A Date Which Will Live In Infamy!

Um Sid, Did you forget that you did that already 2 years ago? Not that it is not worth repeating. It should always be remembered.

http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1000...ghlight=infamy



just askin.



;p

it's funny how Americans consider an attack on a military installation to be such a tragedy yet think nothing of the hundreds of thousands of innocent people killed when the US nuked Japan

Or the previous 4 years fire-bombing old people, women and children.

You must've been working on this poll for a very long time.

Excuse me?

Japan attacked the United States, not the other way around. They brought it upon themselves. And long before you make such statements, you should take a close look at what Japan did - China, Burma, the Philipines. They made the fucking Nazis look like school children.

Statistics Of Japanese Democide: Estimates, Calculations, And Sources

"From the invasion of China in 1937 to the end of World War II, the Japanese military regime murdered near 3,000,000 to over 10,000,000 people, most probably almost 6,000,000 Chinese, Indonesians, Koreans, Filipinos, and Indochinese, among others, including Western prisoners of war. This democide was due to a morally bankrupt political and military strategy, military expediency and custom, and national culture (such as the view that those enemy soldiers who surrender while still able to resist were criminals)."

http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/SOD.CHAP3.HTM

Japan's Unit 731:

Nice conspiracy theory but not true.

71 years later and Japan has a 7.3 EQ

December 7, 1941: The DAY the US wanted to enter the Second World War GIANT Business, and blocked/provocated The Empire of JAPAN to force them to attack Pearl Harbor.

You invented a new word! Congrats! I always knew you were smart. Or something..........

quoted for emphasis. posts like moeloubani's and captain kawaii's paint Japan as innocent victims. they were far from innocent, and not above doing to civilians the same shit that got done to theirs.

http://www.rjgeib.com/heroes/tanimiz...execution.html

" Major Komai stands up and says to the prisoner, 'We are going to kill you.' When he tells the prisoner that in accordance with Japanese Bushido he would be killed with a Japanese sword and that we would have two or three minutes' grace, he listens with bowed head. He says a few words in a low voice. He is an officer, probably a flight lieutenant. Apparently, he wants to be killed with one stroke of the sword. I hear him say the word 'one'; the Major's face becomes tense as he replies, 'Yes.'"

All four of us - Kurokawa, Nishiguchi, Yawate and myself - assembled in front of Headquarters at 1500 hrs ... The 'Tai' commander Komai, who came to the observation post today, told us personally that in accordance with the compassionate sentiments of Japanese Bushido, he was going to kill the prisoner himself, with his favorite sword. So we gathered to observe this. After we had waited a little more than ten minutes, the truck came along.

The prisoner who is at the side of the guard house is given his last drink of water. The surgeon, Major Komai, and Headquarters Platoon Commander come out of the Officers' Mess, wearing their military swords. The time has come. The prisoner with his arms bound and his long hair now cropped short totters forward. He probably suspects what is afoot but he is more composed than I thought he would be. Without more ado. he is put on the truck and we set out for our destination.

I have a seat next to the surgeon. About ten guards ride with us. To the pleasant rumble of the engine, we run swiftly along the road in the growing twilight. The glowing sun has set behind the western hills. Gigantic clouds rise before us and dusk is falling all around. It will not last long now. As I picture the scene we are about to witness, my heart beats faster.

I glance at the prisoner. He has probably resigned himself to his fate. As though saying farewell to the world, he looks about as he sits in the truck, at the hills the sea, and seems deep in thought. I feel a surge of pity and turn my eyes away. The truck runs along the seashore now. We have left the Navy guard behind us and now come into the Army sector. Here and there we see sentries in the grassy fields and I thank them in my heart for their toil, as we drive on; they must have 'got it' in the bombing the night before last; there were great gaping holes by the side of the road, full of water from the rain. In a little over twenty minutes, we arrive at our destination and all get off.

Major Komai stands up and says to the prisoner, 'We are going to kill you.' When he tells the prisoner that in accordance with Japanese Bushido he would be killed with a Japanese sword and that we would have two or three minutes' grace, he listens with bowed head. He says a few words in a low voice. He is an officer, probably a flight lieutenant. Apparently, he wants to be killed with one stroke of the sword. I hear him say the word 'one'; the Major's face becomes tense as he replies, 'Yes.'

Now the time has come and the prisoner is made to kneel on the bank of a bomb crater, filled with water. He is apparently resigned. The precaution is taken of surrounding him with guards with fixed bayonets, but he remains calm. He even stretches his neck out. He is a very brave man indeed. When I put myself in the prisoners' place and think that in one minute it will be good-bye to this world, although the daily bombings have filled me with hate, ordinary human feelings make me pity him.

The Major has drawn his favourite sword. It is the famous masamune sword which he has shown us at the observation stations. It glitters in the light and sends a cold shiver down my spine. He taps the prisoner's neck lightly with the back of the blade, then raises it above his head with both arms and brings it down with a powerful sweep. I had been standing with muscles tenses but in that moment I closed my eyes.

A hissing sound - it must be the sounds of spurting blood, spurting from the arteries: the body falls forward. It is amazing - he has killed him with one stroke.

The onlookers crowd forward. The head, detached from the trunk, rolls forward in front of it. The dark blood gushes out. It is all over. The head is dead white, like a doll. The savageness which I felt only a little while ago is gone, and now I feel nothing but the true compassion of Japanese Bushido.

A corporal laughs: 'Well, he will be entering Nirvana now.' A seaman of the medical unit takes the surgeon's sword and, intent on paying off old scores, turns the headless body over on its back and cuts the abdomen open with one clean stroke. They are thick-skinned, these keto [hairy foreigner - term of opprobrium for a white man]; even the skin of their bellies is thick. Not a drop of blood comes out of the body. It is pushed into the crater at once and buried.

Now the wind blows mournfully and I see the scene again in my mind's eye. We get on the truck again and start back. It is dark now. We get off in front of Headquarters. I say good-bye to the Major and climb up the hill with Technician Kurokawa. This will be something to remember all my life. If I ever get back alive, it was make a good story to tell; so I have written it down."

I'm 100% sure you don't speak at least 3 other languages, besides your NATIVE one...

I know you were never smart and I still know it, congrats "Nobody".

Don't attack, if you dont want to get attacked, quite similar to the topic's slogan.

"Provocated"?

Far more than that would have died, on both sides, if they went with a conventional bombardment and land invasion. The nuke attacks actually spared lives.

do you speak the other three languages as shittily as you speak english? it's a fair question.

Silly Rant's fake nicks and nickers (underpants) live in infamy...



ADG

Even more than we will ever know.

The Japanese were so badly beat down that the entire Japanese civilian population was starving. Japan is an island nation, and they were cut off from everything and the rest of the world.

I don't speak english at all... Who said I do?

The funny thing is that you still understand me.















Eat Dat, Asshole.

You are so brain-washed its beyond pathetic. Truly, man.

Not at all. I only pointed out that Japan attacked a military installation and the US spent the next four years fire bombing old people, women and children. Don't worry about what the Japanese did. Just like everyone in the room they have committed atrocities. There are no innocent characters here, including the Japanese.

I just find it morally disgusting and reprehensible for Americans to attack and murder innocent civilians. IN ww2, to Iraq, and everywhere else. Perhaps Americans need more 9/11's to get a better taste of what we do out in the world.

Pearl Harbor was more than 70 years ago. I also think the 442nd more than made up for it.

The clarity of hindsight - it's amazing.

People today pass judgement on the decisions made generations ago without having stood in their shoes.

My grandfather fought against the Japs in WW2 and was later captured with the rest of my family and put in war camps.

From what my grandmother told me is that the Japanese military in that time where the most sadistic people you can imagine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanking_Massacre


That said, all militaries commit atrocious crimes against humanity.

I'm pretty confident I am a little bit more educated on WWII than you.

So.... Let me see if I understand you correctly... Japan signs a peace treaty with Germany (who has already attacked and invaded multiple countries), then attacks China, takes part in the Rape of Nanking (300k civilians killed there), then attacks the US at multiple locations, Burma, and the Phillipines... And somehow the US is the bad guy here?

That's comical. The US was attacked - along with dozens of other countries - and the US fought back. You need to understand that millions of innocent civilians died in China at the hands of the Japanese before the US was even attacked.

Japan could have stopped the war at any given moment just by saying "we quit" and they failed to do so. We fought them all across the Pacific - My grandfather gave his life doing so - and brought the way right to their doorstep.

This is what happens when you physically attack another country.

One important thing to keep in mind when discussing these topics.

You are always invited to leave, Don't come visit or live in the United states or any nation that it has influence in. Dont have anything to do with US companies, US money, US technology, or anything that comes from or has to do with the US in any way, including making at least 85% of your income from US surfers.

Enjoy Living on Mars. Oh wait.

They would still have Internet on Mars.

Thanks in part to the US Military.

Following Pearl Harbor, they then proceeded to bomb and invade the country (as well as attacked Canada) with almost 50,000 troops, hundreds of planes, subs, ships etc. It's completely fucking nuts that people are so unaware of that fact.

If ya mess with the bull, ya get the horns!

Not even a question of hindsight in this matter - it was the right thing to do then and with 70 years hindsight it was still the right thing to do.

What hindsight tells me though is that we should have dropped one somewhere in Russia shortly after and taken out Stalin.

Now there's a thought......................................

Every war starts with a false flag

Well, there is that...

i heard the same thing

That event and 9/11 both changed the world profoundly.

What did the fuckers think was gonna happen? Did they really think we were gonna say "okay, we got the message" and then do nothing?

A Group Hug maybe?

Total agreement.

"I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve."

Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto

The end result of 9/11 was we invaded another country and removed it's government, and now we have carte blanche to attack anywhere in the world - Pakistan, Yemen, drone strikes galore.

Biggest mistake of his life what he did.