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gkremen · 08-25-2003, 06:43 PM

I get asked sometimes ten times a day why http://www.sex.com is not a pay site or series of pay sites niches. Fair question. I likely would make more money in the short-term doing that. But I believe in the long-term and why should we as adult webmasters care about the long term? Here are some of the reasons (and feel free to comments on them):

Being a search engine allows us to grow beyond our type-in traffic base of http://www.sex.com, http://www.sex.net and 200 other domain names. Because we have a lot of acceptable adult text and banner advertisers to the mainstream search engine, mainstream search engines like http://www.google.de and http://www.about.com want our PPC results. Mainstream search engines worry about liability of taking just any advertiser on (2257, child porn, rape clips, bestiality, teen modeling sites, etc.). We take care of that for them ? at least on one level. They also worry about sexual harassment charges by those who work on adult accounts. We also partially take care of that. We have over 50 search engines we exchange traffic with.

We also work with those who do mailing and need landing pages so that all the mail does not go to one sponsor and that international traffic is handled correctly. We work with over 50 dialer companies such as http://www.GoodThinxx.Com and http://www.ProfitPlantation.Com. We also actively manage advertisers accounts, put up paying search boxes on pay and free sites put our dynamic results on those sites and sell keyword and country specific to over 2,600 customers. We also do http://www.GalaxySearch.Com, a non adult search engine.

Because 1) our customer renew; 2) we are interconnected to so many other sources and users of traffic; 3) we have something that the mainstream wants; 4) we have mainstream backgrounds (talk their talk) and could help their bottom line in an acceptable way, we could sell our customer base, retaining the sex.com name for something else (and have no plans to do so) - for a big multiple to income. You are lucky to sell a pay site for 1 times its income. If we are ½ as good as http://www.AltaVista.Com (bought by http:///www.Overture.Com), http://www.Overture.com (bought by http://www.Yahoo.Com) and http://www.Espotting.Com (bought by http://www.FindWhat.Com), we would sell at 20 times our income, not even taking into consideration that we are more profitable on a EBITDA % basis than all of these companies.

Make sense or is dumb?

GeXus · 08-25-2003, 06:47 PM

Of course it makes sence.. search engines have more of a growth potential.. only thing that you could do which might make some more sence for more initial income would be to create your own paysites and use them on sex.com.. just my

Chris · 08-25-2003, 06:47 PM

that is alot of urls

stocktrader23 · 08-25-2003, 06:47 PM

Anybody telling the guy who was smart enough to register sex.com how to run a business is an idiot.

freeadultcontent · 08-25-2003, 06:48 PM

Ya never answer your damn icq

As far as your biz model, its yours to do with as you please.

GeXus · 08-25-2003, 06:49 PM

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Originally posted by stocktrader23
Anybody telling the guy who was smart enough to register sex.com how to run a business is an idiot.

Umm.. since when does registering a domain make you not require any business assistance

SomeCreep · 08-25-2003, 06:50 PM

What you say makes sense and no doubt you are making great profit, but I think sex.com would make way more money in short term and long as a "mega porn" site with general niches. (like karasxxx.com)

If what you're doing with sex.com is and has been working for you, just keep with it though

hudson · 08-25-2003, 06:53 PM

why not do both? premium content for a price and free content as well...best of both worlds

stocktrader23 · 08-25-2003, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GeXus

Umm.. since when does registering a domain make you not require any business assistance

He registered sex.com before anyone saw the potential of it. What have you done worth a damn?

Lane · 08-25-2003, 06:54 PM

whats the price for sex.com?

shitstain · 08-25-2003, 06:56 PM

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We also work with those who do mailing and need landing pages so that all the mail does not go to one sponsor and that international traffic is handled correctly.

Where can I get some info on the mail traffic you accept?

gkremen · 08-25-2003, 07:00 PM

Ya never answer your damn icq

As far as your biz model, its yours to do with as you please.

*** I do answer my ICQ's 153288107 and my email - I just added you

serious · 08-25-2003, 07:24 PM

what i wonder is was there really a time when sex.com wasn't registered and you came along and got it right off network solutions or if you had some inside connection to register it 'early'

detoxed · 08-25-2003, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by serious
what i wonder is was there really a time when sex.com wasn't registered and you came along and got it right off network solutions or if you had some inside connection to register it 'early'

when domain names started no one would know sex.com would end up being important

icedemon · 08-25-2003, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by serious
what i wonder is was there really a time when sex.com wasn't registered and you came along and got it right off network solutions or if you had some inside connection to register it 'early'

He got the domain name back when domain names where free to register at Network Solutions. This was back when domain names first became available to the general public.

Quote:

Originally posted by stocktrader23
Anybody telling the guy who was smart enough to register sex.com how to run a business is an idiot.

Gary was just able to grab the domain name before anybody else. That doesn't make him a smart business man. Just the first one to grab it. I think Gary is a smart business person, but not in the adult market. The guy that stole sex.com from Gary knew how to market sex.com 10 times better then Gary. Gary seems to do better with the mainstream market.

I don't see why Gary doesn't make at least a pay site and promote it with sex.com (maybe it has and I don't know about it). He can at least see how much money he could actually make with a decent paysite that is promoted properly. If he wants to keep with the ppc thing that he has going now on sex.com. At least make the site more usable so that visitors will want to come back. Look how Google.com and Yahoo.com are just basic and easy to navigate. Sex.com looks like one big mess when I see it. I don't know how anybody finds what they are looking for on that site, visiting it for the first time. I can't see any visitors coming back to sex.com to find what they are looking for.

I Am The Walrus · 08-25-2003, 07:47 PM

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Originally posted by detoxed
when domain names started no one would know sex.com would end up being important

sex.com is important? Since when? I know hundreds of webmasters making money without the use of sex.com !

hudson · 08-25-2003, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by detoxed

when domain names started no one would know sex.com would end up being important

I read about someone who registered home.com for his home computer and work.com for his work computer...I think he made some good change off of one or the other domain

Ic3m4nZ · 08-25-2003, 07:49 PM

Greets to sex.com

xxxdesign-net · 08-25-2003, 07:51 PM

I still believe you need a slicker design... Maybe like yahoo... Yours is not inviting.. Just my opinion

Pipecrew · 08-25-2003, 07:54 PM

Sex.com employes some of the best Represenatives Ever.. They troll message board and not even look at the subject. They then contact you by Icq or Email or by other means and attempt to get you to buy the traffic. This cycle repeats itself about 3 times a week.

Penn E. Less · 08-25-2003, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pipecrew
Sex.com employes some of the best Represenatives Ever.. They troll message board and not even look at the subject. They then contact you by Icq or Email or by other means and attempt to get you to buy the traffic. This cycle repeats itself about 3 times a week.

gkremen · 08-25-2003, 08:18 PM

IceDemon - would be willing to pay for some alternative designs for http://www.sex.com and http://www.GalaxySearch.Com - contact me

TDF · 08-25-2003, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pipecrew
Sex.com employes some of the best Represenatives Ever.. They troll message board and not even look at the subject. They then contact you by Icq or Email or by other means and attempt to get you to buy the traffic. This cycle repeats itself about 3 times a week.

08-25-2003, 06:43 PM	#1
gkremen Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: With Seth W. in Thailand Posts: 368	Sex.Com FAQ strategy spam I get asked sometimes ten times a day why http://www.sex.com is not a pay site or series of pay sites niches. Fair question. I likely would make more money in the short-term doing that. But I believe in the long-term and why should we as adult webmasters care about the long term? Here are some of the reasons (and feel free to comments on them): Being a search engine allows us to grow beyond our type-in traffic base of http://www.sex.com, http://www.sex.net and 200 other domain names. Because we have a lot of acceptable adult text and banner advertisers to the mainstream search engine, mainstream search engines like http://www.google.de and http://www.about.com want our PPC results. Mainstream search engines worry about liability of taking just any advertiser on (2257, child porn, rape clips, bestiality, teen modeling sites, etc.). We take care of that for them ? at least on one level. They also worry about sexual harassment charges by those who work on adult accounts. We also partially take care of that. We have over 50 search engines we exchange traffic with. We also work with those who do mailing and need landing pages so that all the mail does not go to one sponsor and that international traffic is handled correctly. We work with over 50 dialer companies such as http://www.GoodThinxx.Com and http://www.ProfitPlantation.Com. We also actively manage advertisers accounts, put up paying search boxes on pay and free sites put our dynamic results on those sites and sell keyword and country specific to over 2,600 customers. We also do http://www.GalaxySearch.Com, a non adult search engine. Because 1) our customer renew; 2) we are interconnected to so many other sources and users of traffic; 3) we have something that the mainstream wants; 4) we have mainstream backgrounds (talk their talk) and could help their bottom line in an acceptable way, we could sell our customer base, retaining the sex.com name for something else (and have no plans to do so) - for a big multiple to income. You are lucky to sell a pay site for 1 times its income. If we are ½ as good as http://www.AltaVista.Com (bought by http:///www.Overture.Com), http://www.Overture.com (bought by http://www.Yahoo.Com) and http://www.Espotting.Com (bought by http://www.FindWhat.Com), we would sell at 20 times our income, not even taking into consideration that we are more profitable on a EBITDA % basis than all of these companies. Make sense or is dumb? __________________ ICQ 153288107 Contact us at: http://www.grantmedia.com/contact/adteam.html to purchase country specific traffic on a per click, no fraud basis! No need to get Iran and China traffic when you can get it from Google or other of our partners

08-25-2003, 06:47 PM	#2
GeXus Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Yo Mommas Pussy Posts: 3,320	Of course it makes sence.. search engines have more of a growth potential.. only thing that you could do which might make some more sence for more initial income would be to create your own paysites and use them on sex.com.. just my __________________

08-25-2003, 06:47 PM	#3
Chris Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: icq: 71462500 Skype: Jupzchris Posts: 27,880	that is alot of urls __________________ [email protected]

08-25-2003, 06:47 PM	#4
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08-25-2003, 06:50 PM	#7
SomeCreep :glugglug Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Where the Wild Things Are Posts: 26,118	What you say makes sense and no doubt you are making great profit, but I think sex.com would make way more money in short term and long as a "mega porn" site with general niches. (like karasxxx.com) If what you're doing with sex.com is and has been working for you, just keep with it though __________________ Webair Hosting I use and recommend Webair for hosting.

08-25-2003, 06:53 PM	#8
hudson Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Grand Central Posts: 2,948	why not do both? premium content for a price and free content as well...best of both worlds

08-25-2003, 06:54 PM	#10
Lane Will code for food... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Buckeye, AZ Posts: 8,496	whats the price for sex.com? __________________

08-25-2003, 07:00 PM	#12
gkremen Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: With Seth W. in Thailand Posts: 368	Ya never answer your damn icq As far as your biz model, its yours to do with as you please. *** I do answer my ICQ's 153288107 and my email - I just added you __________________ ICQ 153288107 Contact us at: http://www.grantmedia.com/contact/adteam.html to purchase country specific traffic on a per click, no fraud basis! No need to get Iran and China traffic when you can get it from Google or other of our partners

08-25-2003, 07:24 PM	#13
serious Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,594	what i wonder is was there really a time when sex.com wasn't registered and you came along and got it right off network solutions or if you had some inside connection to register it 'early'

08-25-2003, 07:49 PM	#18
Ic3m4nZ Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Montreal! Posts: 6,285	Greets to sex.com

08-25-2003, 07:51 PM	#19
xxxdesign-net My hips don't lie Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 10,129	I still believe you need a slicker design... Maybe like yahoo... Yours is not inviting.. Just my opinion

08-25-2003, 07:54 PM	#20
Pipecrew Master of Gfy.com Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 14,887	Sex.com employes some of the best Represenatives Ever.. They troll message board and not even look at the subject. They then contact you by Icq or Email or by other means and attempt to get you to buy the traffic. This cycle repeats itself about 3 times a week.

08-25-2003, 08:18 PM	#22
gkremen Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: With Seth W. in Thailand Posts: 368	IceDemon - would be willing to pay for some alternative designs for http://www.sex.com and http://www.GalaxySearch.Com - contact me __________________ ICQ 153288107 Contact us at: http://www.grantmedia.com/contact/adteam.html to purchase country specific traffic on a per click, no fraud basis! No need to get Iran and China traffic when you can get it from Google or other of our partners