Fact: 92% of people here who cry about piracy have downloaded at least 1000 mp3s

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  • Dirty F
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Jul 2001
    • 59204

    #1

    Fact: 92% of people here who cry about piracy have downloaded at least 1000 mp3s

    Without paying for it.
    Another 44% also downloaded games and/or software.

    So what i'm saying is you're not in a position to cry if you have less sales because of tubes.
  • epitome
    So Fucking Lame
    • Jun 2009
    • 12156

    #2
    Guilty conscious?

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    • seeandsee
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      #3
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      • EliteWebmaster
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        • Feb 2010
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        #4
        I admit it, I do download MP3s. But the music industry deserves it in my opinion and they are better insulated to make a profit even with piracy. Where as porn, the same can't be said because we have less of a market base to work with, limited advertising streams because we are "Adult". The gov't will bend over backwards to stop piracy in the music/movie industry but they will do nothing to help us. So piracy hits the adult industry harder than it would the music industry or even hollywood. You don't see musicians or producers going out of business. They just earn less but still make a killing.

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        • Dirty F
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Jul 2001
          • 59204

          #5
          Originally posted by EliteWebmaster
          I admit it, I do download MP3s. But the music industry deserves it in my opinion
          I stopped reading here.

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          • LouiseLloyd
            SO FUCKING SCAMMED
            • Mar 2010
            • 1429

            #6
            Everyone who has the intelligence to download pirated stuff does.

            This will be the case until copyright theft and physical theft are dealt with in the same way.

            Steal a DVD from HMV you do time!

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            • BAKO
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              • Jul 2005
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              #7
              I never download it a single fucking thing.
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              • rowan
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                • Mar 2002
                • 17393

                #8
                I once spent a couple of hours trying to figure out amazon and itunes. I wanted to spend money. Gave up in frustration because of all the stupid artificial limits (like geographical location) which prevented me from buying anything.

                I'm not advocating piracy, but it's usually far easier to download something off X site than try to legally acquire it.

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                • EliteWebmaster
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                  • Feb 2010
                  • 3990

                  #9
                  Originally posted by rowan
                  I once spent a couple of hours trying to figure out amazon and itunes. I wanted to spend money. Gave up in frustration because of all the stupid artificial limits (like geographical location) which prevented me from buying anything.

                  I'm not advocating piracy, but it's usually far easier to download something off X site than try to legally acquire it.
                  I used to buy of itunes as well. But like you, I got tired of the limitations they put on geographical locations so now I just download it from other sites

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                  • rowan
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Mar 2002
                    • 17393

                    #10
                    If I remember correctly, Amazon waited until I'd selected a number of songs and proceeded to the checkout before letting me know that I couldn't actually buy them because I was outside the USA. Would be nice if they could have told me that earlier, geoIP would signal that I'm not in the USA.

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                    • AdultEUhost
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                      • Oct 2005
                      • 2579

                      #11
                      Originally posted by EliteWebmaster
                      I admit it, I do download MP3s. But the music industry deserves it in my opinion
                      Funny how people say the same about adult websites after being hooked on tons of cross sales of hundreds of dollars
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                      • Failed
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                        • Mar 2011
                        • 2301

                        #12
                        Impressive statistics. I especially enjoy the sources you've cited. It's nice to see people conducting real research into the piracy issue these days. I hope you're rewarded well for your in-depth study.
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                        • AutumnBH
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                          • Oct 2012
                          • 298

                          #13
                          I predict a lot of butt hurt content producer posts in the future of this thread.

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                          • EliteWebmaster
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                            • Feb 2010
                            • 3990

                            #14
                            Originally posted by rowan
                            If I remember correctly, Amazon waited until I'd selected a number of songs and proceeded to the checkout before letting me know that I couldn't actually buy them because I was outside the USA. Would be nice if they could have told me that earlier, geoIP would signal that I'm not in the USA.
                            That was really annoying how they wait until we are ready to pay before telling us we can't buy that specifc song. That's one of the reasons I got sick and tired of "big brother" telling me what I can or can't buy so now I download what I want ,when I want

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                            • SGS
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                              • Dec 2002
                              • 5176

                              #15
                              Originally posted by BAKO
                              I never download it a single fucking thing.
                              Neither have I ever.
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                              • EliteWebmaster
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                                • Feb 2010
                                • 3990

                                #16
                                Originally posted by pornopete
                                I'm willing to bet 98% of the designers do not a valid photoshop license.
                                I must be one of the 2% as I bought my Photoshop license. Software is hard to pirate these days anyways with most bigger companies utilizing online verification of serial keys.

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                                • AutumnBH
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                                  • Oct 2012
                                  • 298

                                  #17
                                  I can understand why content producers and paysite owners might get their knickers in a twist about piracy. But affiliates? Your job is to make money by delivering traffic and conversions.

                                  If market conditions dictate that one type of product is no longer making money, then it's your job to move on to a different market where you can put your skills to work and keep making money. Not to keep flogging a dead horse and complaining about the past or factors that are completely out of your control.

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                                  • Dirty F
                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                    • Jul 2001
                                    • 59204

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by EliteWebmaster
                                    I must be one of the 2% as I bought my Photoshop license. Software is hard to pirate these days anyways with most bigger companies utilizing online verification of serial keys.
                                    Right. Most software is usually available within 24 hours after launch on TPB.

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                                    • woj
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                                      • Jul 2002
                                      • 47882

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by pornopete
                                      I'm willing to bet 98% of the designers do not a valid photoshop license.
                                      would be interesting to see how many designers will post a photo of the box with gfy in the background.... would take only a min and would be a good PR for those that do...

                                      so which designer is up to the challenge?
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                                      • signupdamnit
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                                        #20
                                        You have a point Frank and you're probably right. There are a couple differences though. One is that most people hurt in our industry don't have millions in the bank. The second is that in our industry it's basically open season and a free-for-all. People don't even think twice before stealing porn whereas they do with software, music, or mainstream films because they know there's a slight chance they could be getting a letter from their ISP. Hell in our industry the thieves are the big players. You have businesses making a business of stealing from others in the industry. It's not quite the same as a consumer downloading an mp3 besides with the moral argument.

                                        Originally posted by AutumnBH
                                        I can understand why content producers and paysite owners might get their knickers in a twist about piracy. But affiliates? Your job is to make money by delivering traffic and conversions.

                                        If market conditions dictate that one type of product is no longer making money, then it's your job to move on to a different market where you can put your skills to work and keep making money. Not to keep flogging a dead horse and complaining about the past or factors that are completely out of your control.
                                        Actually legitimate affiliates have lost more than content producers. Content producers at least got some branding (lube) along with the revenue hit (the screw). Legitimate affiliates only got the screw as conversions went south. You have a point but think about what you are saying. Many of these affiliates will become pirates making things even worse for everyone. "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em" I'm truly shocked that more affiliates aren't turning to the dark side so to speak. What's happening now is that affiliates are essentially standing still and smiling while they get kicked in the balls. You have to wonder how long that will last.
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                                        • TheSquealer
                                          Mayor of Thneedville
                                          • Oct 2004
                                          • 26174

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by EliteWebmaster
                                          I admit it, I do download MP3s. But the music industry deserves it in my opinion...
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                                          • Aric
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                                            • Sep 2002
                                            • 1209

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by woj
                                            would be interesting to see how many designers will post a photo of the box with gfy in the background.... would take only a min and would be a good PR for those that do...

                                            so which designer is up to the challenge?
                                            This deserves its own thread
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                                            • Confined
                                              Registered User
                                              • Jan 2006
                                              • 93

                                              #23
                                              Sounds about right, people are hypocrites

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                                              • rowan
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • Mar 2002
                                                • 17393

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by woj
                                                would be interesting to see how many designers will post a photo of the box with gfy in the background.... would take only a min and would be a good PR for those that do...

                                                so which designer is up to the challenge?


                                                I'm not a designer, but I just used my l33t photoshop skills to remove a couple of pics of my family from the background.

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                                                • EliteWebmaster
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                                                  • Feb 2010
                                                  • 3990

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                  Right. Most software is usually available within 24 hours after launch on TPB.
                                                  TPB?? What's that? I don't pirate software so I'm not sure what that means

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                                                  • Nicky
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                                                    • Mar 2003
                                                    • 30071

                                                    #26

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                                                    • EliteWebmaster
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                                                      • Feb 2010
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by woj
                                                      would be interesting to see how many designers will post a photo of the box with gfy in the background.... would take only a min and would be a good PR for those that do...

                                                      so which designer is up to the challenge?
                                                      I got mine online from Adobe's website, I didn't get a box, just a download link with my serial

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                                                      • CyberHustler
                                                        Masterbaiter
                                                        • Feb 2006
                                                        • 28736

                                                        #28
                                                        I download mixtapes for free... hip hop adapted real early. You support them by goin to the show.
                                                        “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”

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                                                        • Killswitch
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                                                          • Oct 2012
                                                          • 2569

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                          I stopped reading here.
                                                          Bingo.

                                                          Justify your piracy all you want, no matter what you pirate, you're still doing the same thing as you bitch about.

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                                                          • L-Pink
                                                            working on my tan
                                                            • Mar 2005
                                                            • 39151

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Killswitch
                                                            Bingo.

                                                            Justify your piracy all you want, no matter what you pirate, you're still doing the same thing as you bitch about.


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                                                            • AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
                                                              Purveyor, Fine Asian Porn
                                                              • Jul 2004
                                                              • 38323

                                                              #31


                                                              I've never downloaded nor used pirated software, and I don't download illegal mp3s, although I have a huge legally purchased library of music, including a few thousand vinyl LPs - I like digital, but I was raised on analog; and long before becoming a filmmaker I was a musician, and so I was opposed to Napster and their ilk from day one.

                                                              Many of the people I know who actually pay to produce their own content as I do, share my views about piracy, and believe that artists deserve to be rewarded for their creations, not people who steal or otherwise devalue an artist's works by illegally sharing it or otherwise violating the artists copyrights.



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                                                              • Major (Tom)
                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                • Nov 2003
                                                                • 32492

                                                                #32
                                                                I never have. Dead serious. I spend a 100 a month on i tunes though
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                                                                • Jakke PNG
                                                                  ex-TeenGodFather
                                                                  • Nov 2001
                                                                  • 20306

                                                                  #33
                                                                  I've already given up whining about piracy, what's the fucking point anymore. It's like Don Quijote.. Just adapt or die. I adapted by changing my environment I work in (ie. not-adult).

                                                                  ..and yet, I don't condone piracy and have not downloaded pirated software/music in 15+ years. Also, no need anymore really.. Spotify's there for my musical needs, and if I can't find something there, CD cost next to nothing. I'm part of the 8%!
                                                                  ..and I'm off.

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                                                                  • Klen
                                                                    • Aug 2006
                                                                    • 32235

                                                                    #34
                                                                    I dont need to download/buy any mp3,since everything is on youtube,i just have habit to always go to youtube when i want to listen music.But i did bought recently soundtrack of frozen synapse despise it was also on youtube,i just like that music somuch i wanted it in higher quality.

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                                                                    • baryl
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                                                                      • Aug 2011
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Now who here has paid for a Winrar license?

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                                                                      • baryl
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                                                                        • Aug 2011
                                                                        • 1086

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by pornopete
                                                                        I have. It was cheap, like 30$ or something. Winrar, FlashFXP and emeditor are 3 I've paid for that I used to use daily.
                                                                        I'll admit I've been evaluating for about 12 years.

                                                                        I do however have a legit copy of Photoshop.

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                                                                        • Dirty F
                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                          • 59204

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by KlenTelaris
                                                                          I dont need to download/buy any mp3,since everything is on youtube,i just have habit to always go to youtube when i want to listen music.But i did bought recently soundtrack of frozen synapse despise it was also on youtube,i just like that music somuch i wanted it in higher quality.
                                                                          Really? No way i could listen to Youtube music that much. The quality just sucks most of the times.

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                                                                          • RSD
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                                                                            • Sep 2005
                                                                            • 425

                                                                            #38
                                                                            It's far more easy to watch a tube movie then to become a member of a paysite with less content.

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                                                                            • Oracle Porn
                                                                              Affiliate
                                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                                              • 24433

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by baryl
                                                                              Now who here has paid for a Winrar license?
                                                                              $10 on sale back in 2002 and still working with the latest version.


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                                                                              • Emil
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                                                                                • Feb 2007
                                                                                • 5658

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by BAKO
                                                                                I never download it a single fucking thing.
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                                                                                • CrocMint
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Real artists would be happy their shit is so popular that someone bothers downloading it :D
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                                                                                  • BlackCrayon
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                                                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                                                    • 19634

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    you don't need to download these days anyways, its all on youtube, much of it put up by the record companies themselves.
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                                                                                    • Juicy D. Links
                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                      • Apr 2001
                                                                                      • 122992

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Frank please seed "Big Dutch Cock Men abroad" assap !!!!!!!!!!

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                                                                                      • bronco67
                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                        • Dec 2006
                                                                                        • 29032

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        I downloaded lots of stuff in the early times I had my broadband connection, but I've felt better over the last few years knowing I'm putting money in the pockets of the people who make the stuff I love.

                                                                                        ---and I'm not going to rationalize why some corporation deserves to be ripped off and another doesn't, like one poster here.

                                                                                        They've set a price for their goods. If I don't have the money, I don't steal it.

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                                                                                        • AllAboutCams
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                                                                                          #45
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                                                                                          • Rochard
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                                                                                            • Dec 2001
                                                                                            • 75733

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            I've paid for everything I use. However, some of the software I've been using is rather old - Cute FTP, photoshop, and ACDSee come to mind. In fact, I had to buy ACDSee again to install it on my new computer here.

                                                                                            I've also paid for all of my music too, either through Rhapsody or iTunes or from my CD collection. Movies too, all movies on DVD.

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                                                                                            • sperbonzo
                                                                                              I'd rather be on my boat.
                                                                                              • May 2003
                                                                                              • 9750

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by EliteWebmaster
                                                                                              I admit it, I do download MP3s. But the music industry deserves it in my opinion and they are better insulated to make a profit even with piracy.
                                                                                              So you will decide what you can steal, and how much from anyone then.... I better not leave my wallet lying around your house, in case you decide that I can afford to have you steal it.


                                                                                              Originally posted by EliteWebmaster
                                                                                              Where as porn, the same can't be said because we have less of a market base to work with, limited advertising streams because we are "Adult". The gov't will bend over backwards to stop piracy in the music/movie industry but they will do nothing to help us.
                                                                                              The government did pretty much nothing. It was all done by the industry themselves.

                                                                                              Originally posted by EliteWebmaster
                                                                                              So piracy hits the adult industry harder than it would the music industry or even hollywood. You don't see musicians or producers going out of business. They just earn less but still make a killing.
                                                                                              Dumbest part of the post. Don't see them going out of business? Seriously? They go broke and go out of business ALL THE TIME! On what planet do you live? Do you have any idea how many acts never get past the first release because free downloads erase any profitability they might have had?

                                                                                              Oh.... wait. You live on the same planet with the people that say that "Porno producers make millions, and they aren't going out of business. It's a huge industry. My stealing content might just make them earn less but they will still make a killing"




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                                                                                              • BAKO
                                                                                                https://traffichaus.com/
                                                                                                • Jul 2005
                                                                                                • 18478

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by Emil
                                                                                                How the fuck do you use the Internet then?

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                                                                                                • woj
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                                                                                                  • Jul 2002
                                                                                                  • 47882

                                                                                                  #49
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                                                                                                  • Killswitch
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