Follow Up to Your Declined CCBill Purchase - GoFuckYourself.com

11-25-2012, 12:38 PM

Thank you for your interest in making a purchase from http://xxxxxx.com/. For your protection, your transaction has been declined by CCBill but may still be eligible to be approved following some additional action on your part.

this is bullshit

SGS · 11-25-2012, 12:39 PM

What? 789

brassmonkey · 11-25-2012, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Shakira

Thank you for your interest in making a purchase from http://xxxxxx.com/. For your protection, your transaction has been declined by CCBill but may still be eligible to be approved following some additional action on your part.

this is bullshit

how are you watching porn? get in the kitchen!

mavruda · 11-25-2012, 01:03 PM

Hmmm... I got similar e-mail from someone who wanted to join my site - he sent me e-mail with a complaint, that he got this message:

Thank you for your interest in making a purchase from http://mydirtydrawings.com/. For your protection, your transaction has been declined by CCBill but may still be eligible to be approved following some additional action on your part.

Please call our Consumer Support Department at 888.596.9279, or the International toll free number below if outside of the U.S., to proceed with the process if you have not completed your purchase elsewhere.

I've had conversation on mail with the same guy - who told me that he was able to join other sites with no problem / Verotel using sites/.

However I spoke with the ccbill's support and got this:

Unfortunately I can't confirm any details with Verotel, he will need to contact our consumer support department to verify why it has received a soft decline from our billing system. I apologize but I don't have any other details regarding his transaction attempt and contacting our consumer team via email or by phone will resolve this issue.

Dirty F · 11-25-2012, 01:34 PM

As i mentioned before ccbil declined my card because i used a different email as before. I just can not believe this. So many people have several email addresses. I really wonder how much sale i lose because of stupid shit like this. I understand scrubbing is needed but this just too much.

Dirty F · 11-25-2012, 01:36 PM

Non ccbill related. Just 2 hours ago i tried to buy some domains with my brand new Visa card. Got declined. Why ffs?

DWB · 11-25-2012, 01:37 PM

Yea, this extra step is a sales killer I'm afraid. I'm in the porn industry and I don't even feel comfortable calling a billing company to talk about a porn purchase, so I can't imagine what some married dude is thinking when asked to call him. Ain't gonna happen, especially while the wife and kids are sleeping in the other room and he's trying to rub one off quietly.

IMHO, this pushes more people away from paying for porn, which is the last thing a billing company needs to be doing right now. It also takes the anonymity away from it all, which is the whole reason for the popularity of internet porn. Yes, you have to give your info, but you shouldn't have to talk to someone about it.

*sigh*

Who wants to call anyone, for any reason, and discuss why their credit card was declined for BlackTrannyWhackers.com or BabysitterFuckers.com?

signupdamnit · 11-25-2012, 01:42 PM

What pisses me off the most is that, although they will undoubtedly deny it, it's probably being done to keep overall chargeback rates down so that the "Bros" can bang cards and put through ridiculous pre checked cross sales. The high volume Bros get to have 3-5% CB rates and it gets made up on the back of the little guys who are scrubbed like mad to even it out.

And I don't care what anyone says some transactions are being batched where affiliates aren't getting credit for them on the same day or possibly even week or month which they were made. There is no way I can go three weeks with one sponsor without getting a sale and then get four sales in one day from that sponsor and then again go two weeks again with no sales and then get three sales from the same sponsor from different sites on same day. That pattern tells me batching has to be occurring.

I generally like CCBill but I can tell that SOMETHING is up.

signupdamnit · 11-25-2012, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

As i mentioned before ccbil declined my card because i used a different email as before. I just can not believe this. So many people have several email addresses. I really wonder how much sale i lose because of stupid shit like this. I understand scrubbing is needed but this just too much.

That's really stupid. People don't always keep the same email address for long either. Especially the one they give to porn companies because of the tendency to get spammed. Sometimes the incompetence makes you wonder how certain companies made it as far as they did.

Dirty F · 11-25-2012, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit

What pisses me off the most is that, although they will undoubtedly deny it, it's probably being done to keep overall chargeback rates down so that the "Bros" can bang cards and put through ridiculous pre checked cross sales. The high volume Bros get to have 3-5% CB rates and it gets made up on the back of the little guys who are scrubbed like mad to even it out.

And I don't care what anyone says some transactions are being batched where affiliates aren't getting credit for them on the same day or possibly even week or month which they were made. There is no way I can go three weeks with one sponsor without getting a sale and then get four sales in one day from that sponsor and then again go two weeks again with no sales and then get three sales from the same sponsor from different sites on same day. That pattern tells me batching has to be occurring.

I generally like CCBill but I can tell that SOMETHING is up.

Actually yes you can. With amounts that low that's just how numbers work. Why do people refuse to jnderstand that

Dirty F · 11-25-2012, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit

That's really stupid. People don't always keep the same email address for long either. Especially the one they give to porn companies because of the tendency to get spammed. Sometimes the incompetence makes you wonder how certain companies made it as far as they did.

Yup, it's perfectly normal to have several emails for many reasons. Rejecting a sign up because of that is simply ridiculous.

signupdamnit · 11-25-2012, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

Actually yes you can. With amounts that low that's just how numbers work. Why do people refuse to jnderstand that

Out of 45 days one day has four sales, another day has three sales. All the other 43 days have zero sales. This is only for one sponsor. Not for all sponsors. That's not a normal pattern. And it only seems to happen with this sponsor. To me it looks like their transactions are being batched.

Dirty F · 11-25-2012, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit

Out of 45 days one day has four sales, another day has three sales. All the other 43 days have zero sales. This is only for one sponsor. Not for all sponsors. That's not a normal pattern. And it only seems to happen with this sponsor. To me it looks like their transactions are being batched.

That might be the sponsor, sure. Maybe they manually check every transaction before they let it show up in the stats. As you say it only happens with this sponsor. So i don't see how this is ccbill related.

pimpmaster9000 · 11-25-2012, 02:39 PM

and you are not only losing money because of over aggressive srcubbing but also the payment does not cascade further but stops with this "transaction declined for your protection" e-mail...not only do they over scrubb but they also end your cascade....

wehateporn · 11-25-2012, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit

Out of 45 days one day has four sales, another day has three sales. All the other 43 days have zero sales. This is only for one sponsor. Not for all sponsors. That's not a normal pattern. And it only seems to happen with this sponsor. To me it looks like their transactions are being batched.

That's possible, there's also a chance these are 'Bonus Sales' from the sponsor; they've seen how much traffic you've sent, then they reward you.

Penny24Seven · 11-25-2012, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

Actually yes you can. With amounts that low that's just how numbers work. Why do people refuse to jnderstand that

all the shit Frank talks I will agree with him on this one till the end. I have been doing this shit over ten years and with the traffic you me or 99% have you are going to get all kinds of weird shit that you can call BS but you are talking about .000000001% of joins and think you can use that as a guide is fucking nuts, Goto the store and look at candy bar sales. Monday 17 and Friday 98 HOLY FUCK whoever worked on Monday doesn't know how to ring shit up LOL

Dirty F · 11-25-2012, 07:28 PM

What shit do i talk? I never talk shit.

BIGTYMER · 11-25-2012, 07:28 PM

Total sale killer.

Thankfully CCBill has never declined me and I join a lot of sites.

signupdamnit · 11-25-2012, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

That might be the sponsor, sure. Maybe they manually check every transaction before they let it show up in the stats. As you say it only happens with this sponsor. So i don't see how this is ccbill related.

Can the sponsor really manually approve affiliate transactions on a CCBill affiliate program like that? I didn't know that. I had thought once the customer pays the affiliate is automatically credited per the current affiliate program settings. It is just that sponsor but it looks like they are CCBill only without any cascade (https://bill.ccbill.com/jpost/signup.cgi) otherwise I would suspect an oddity with the cascade posting. I've been noticing the pattern with the sponsor for some time just not asdefined this time around. I guess I should shut up and do a test signup and see when it appears in my stats and whether I get declined or see this verification crap. :/

lagcam · 11-25-2012, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB

Yea, this extra step is a sales killer I'm afraid. I'm in the porn industry and I don't even feel comfortable calling a billing company to talk about a porn purchase, so I can't imagine what some married dude is thinking when asked to call him. Ain't gonna happen, especially while the wife and kids are sleeping in the other room and he's trying to rub one off quietly.

IMHO, this pushes more people away from paying for porn, which is the last thing a billing company needs to be doing right now. It also takes the anonymity away from it all, which is the whole reason for the popularity of internet porn. Yes, you have to give your info, but you shouldn't have to talk to someone about it.

*sigh*

Who wants to call anyone, for any reason, and discuss why their credit card was declined for BlackTrannyWhackers.com or BabysitterFuckers.com?

Exactly this. Especially while ccbill are waiting for the guy not to call, cascade goes out the window.

Lace · 11-25-2012, 09:31 PM

Explains my ccbill numbers the last few months. Kind of funny how things just die out of no where...but it's probably my traffic that has been the same for nearly 8 years. -sigh-

nikki99 · 11-27-2012, 05:34 AM

this is because we are indians and ccbill doesn't like poor people

freecartoonporn · 11-27-2012, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

Maybe they manually check every transaction before they let it show up in the stats.

i guess its not possible., or i dont know about it.

11-25-2012, 12:38 PM	#1
Shakira Guest Posts: n/a	Follow Up to Your Declined CCBill Purchase Thank you for your interest in making a purchase from http://xxxxxx.com/. For your protection, your transaction has been declined by CCBill but may still be eligible to be approved following some additional action on your part. this is bullshit

11-25-2012, 12:39 PM	#2
SGS Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mallorca - Nottingham Posts: 5,176	What? 789 __________________ See sig...

11-25-2012, 01:42 PM	#8
signupdamnit Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,697	What pisses me off the most is that, although they will undoubtedly deny it, it's probably being done to keep overall chargeback rates down so that the "Bros" can bang cards and put through ridiculous pre checked cross sales. The high volume Bros get to have 3-5% CB rates and it gets made up on the back of the little guys who are scrubbed like mad to even it out. And I don't care what anyone says some transactions are being batched where affiliates aren't getting credit for them on the same day or possibly even week or month which they were made. There is no way I can go three weeks with one sponsor without getting a sale and then get four sales in one day from that sponsor and then again go two weeks again with no sales and then get three sales from the same sponsor from different sites on same day. That pattern tells me batching has to be occurring. I generally like CCBill but I can tell that SOMETHING is up. __________________ You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

11-25-2012, 09:31 PM	#21
Lace Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 16,116	Explains my ccbill numbers the last few months. Kind of funny how things just die out of no where...but it's probably my traffic that has been the same for nearly 8 years. -sigh- __________________ Your Paysite Partner Strength In Numbers! StickyDollars \| RadicalCash \| KennysPennies \| HomegrownCash

11-27-2012, 05:34 AM	#22
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11-25-2012, 01:03 PM	#4
mavruda porn cartoonist Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Vatican City Posts: 2,597	Hmmm... I got similar e-mail from someone who wanted to join my site - he sent me e-mail with a complaint, that he got this message: Thank you for your interest in making a purchase from http://mydirtydrawings.com/. For your protection, your transaction has been declined by CCBill but may still be eligible to be approved following some additional action on your part. Please call our Consumer Support Department at 888.596.9279, or the International toll free number below if outside of the U.S., to proceed with the process if you have not completed your purchase elsewhere. I've had conversation on mail with the same guy - who told me that he was able to join other sites with no problem / Verotel using sites/. However I spoke with the ccbill's support and got this: Unfortunately I can't confirm any details with Verotel, he will need to contact our consumer support department to verify why it has received a soft decline from our billing system. I apologize but I don't have any other details regarding his transaction attempt and contacting our consumer team via email or by phone will resolve this issue.

11-25-2012, 01:34 PM	#5
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	As i mentioned before ccbil declined my card because i used a different email as before. I just can not believe this. So many people have several email addresses. I really wonder how much sale i lose because of stupid shit like this. I understand scrubbing is needed but this just too much.

11-25-2012, 01:36 PM	#6
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Non ccbill related. Just 2 hours ago i tried to buy some domains with my brand new Visa card. Got declined. Why ffs?

11-25-2012, 01:37 PM	#7
DWB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Encrypted. Access denied. Posts: 31,779	Yea, this extra step is a sales killer I'm afraid. I'm in the porn industry and I don't even feel comfortable calling a billing company to talk about a porn purchase, so I can't imagine what some married dude is thinking when asked to call him. Ain't gonna happen, especially while the wife and kids are sleeping in the other room and he's trying to rub one off quietly. IMHO, this pushes more people away from paying for porn, which is the last thing a billing company needs to be doing right now. It also takes the anonymity away from it all, which is the whole reason for the popularity of internet porn. Yes, you have to give your info, but you shouldn't have to talk to someone about it. sigh Who wants to call anyone, for any reason, and discuss why their credit card was declined for BlackTrannyWhackers.com or BabysitterFuckers.com?

11-25-2012, 02:39 PM	#14
pimpmaster9000 Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 26,732	and you are not only losing money because of over aggressive srcubbing but also the payment does not cascade further but stops with this "transaction declined for your protection" e-mail...not only do they over scrubb but they also end your cascade....

11-25-2012, 07:28 PM	#17
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	What shit do i talk? I never talk shit.

11-25-2012, 07:28 PM	#18
BIGTYMER Junior Achiever Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Walled Garden Posts: 17,066	Total sale killer. Thankfully CCBill has never declined me and I join a lot of sites.