Originally Posted by robwod (Post 19332051)

I cannot speak for anyone else, but I can tell you we spend several thousands of dollars a month to promote programs. Programming costs, design costs, advertising costs, hosting costs, editorial costs, assorted administrative costs, hosting costs, server management costs.

It seems some program owners do not realize that many affiliates are registered businesses, and treat it as same. We also have overhead, employees, income taxes, etc.

And yes, we do create our own advertorials and purchase advertising to promote a service, program or model. To see stuff like popups, social links and other traffic leaks is a little discouraging and often times provides the incentive to focus on other sites that abstain from that sort of thing on their affiliate traffic tours.

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 19331654)

Make the affiliate tours clean of that crap. Do whatever you want within reason on your normal tours. Affiliates shouldn't even need to mention this, sponsors really ought to know better.

Originally Posted by Fungus (Post 19331885)

WE don't do that on our network at all.. Only time I use this is on my blogs which aff's don't use. Traffic leaks is just that traffic leaks and they suck for all the hard working aff working to bring traffic to our site. That is like a big kick in an aff face doing something like this. *shrugs* It just amazes me that program owners don't cater to aff's like they use too. Without good aff's and good seo and good content what do you have left? *shrugs*

Originally Posted by Ed Hammer (Post 19331906)

Well... I did not know this was a problem and considered a bad thing from Affiliates. I will make some new tours made specific for Affiliate traffic. Anyone wanna help and post things they like/dislike for affiliate tours?

Originally Posted by Wizzo (Post 19332063)

Cleary there's a few that don't understand the phycology of the solo girl market, which trends to be a little different the regular porn market...:winkwink:

Originally Posted by VenusBlogger (Post 19332196)

Man, are you the same Tom from a CCBILL site I used to promote years ago? Like in year 2005 or so... something like bootlocks or something like that, cant remember the name.. it was foot fetish and converted like crazy... :thumbsup

You back into the business? havent seen you around for some time.

Originally Posted by VenusBlogger (Post 19332207)

Thank you so much. :thumbsup

Originally Posted by SilentKnight (Post 19332027)

Quite obviously my viewpoint won't be popular here - but affiliates often don't realize (or deliberately choose to ignore) it takes more to keep the whale afloat, than the little fish that swim alongside. Yes, it's a symbiotic business relationship - but all too often the tail thinks it's in a position to wag the dog.

The overhead expenses for an affiliate directing traffic pale in comparison to production costs.

Let's say a sponsor offers a 50/50 affiliate program - giving half the revenue of every member sign-up to the affiliate. From his remaining 50%, he has to pay models, pay for all the gear (cameras, lighting, makeup, outfits, props) needed to produce the content, the studio/remote location, photo/video editing, website operation, income tax, etc.

And after all those expenses are deducted from his 50% - he gets the marginal remaining as his personal income.

Speaking from experience - in a small ma-and-pa operation - the remaining revenue stream is incredibly small. On a good month it's slightly above break-even. It's a primary reason so many ma-and-pa production companies have evaporated over the years. They simply can't sustain the revenue needed for ongoing production.

What expenses does the typical affiliate incur? (serious question - I'd like to hear).