Exactly.

If FUCKING WalMart paid and provided health insurance at reasonable levels, WE wouldn't have to pick up the tab!

Check this shit out:

Walmart Workers To Get No-Cost Surgery At Mayo Clinic, Other Top Hospitals

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_1958673.html

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Well, according to Republicans, millions of WalMart workers are just supposed to walk away and find millions of better paying jobs. :1orglaugh

Ex-fucking-actly.

Didn't Walmart shut down the whole store and left town the last time some idiots tried to strike or form a union?

Yes. They also spy on their employees and make life difficult for anyone that suggests unionizing.

It's not only about supply and demand.

There is a PROBLEM with WalMarts ENORMOUS profits while the workers live in poverty and lean on the taxpayer. That problem can be addressed legislatively. If We The People decide the status quo is an outrage, we can change it. The country is here for the people. The people make the rules. Not the corporations. The problem is we've forgotten that. We're half asleep. We can MAKE WalMart cover health insurance. We can MAKE them pay higher wages by raising the minimum wage.

WE decide the rules. If a company is going to do business in America (and they DO want to) then they should be required to pay their employees a livable wage. If they can't afford to, then they can't afford to be in business. (WalMart can So afford to).

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I will. Colossally ignorant and reeking of....

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That's more than minimum wage.
Whoa, your right of entitlement and distribution of wealth ideals remind me of someone half your age.

This is what so many people miss. Especially those who are locked into the right-wing media bubble.

I have no problem with success. I applaud it wholeheartedly.

What I have a problem with is excessive greed. If you add up the Walton heirs' combined net worth, it's approaching nearly $100 Billion, yet most of their employees live in near-poverty. To quote a movie line: "How many yachts can you water ski behind?" They could pony up a mere 2% of their wealth and provide health benefits (not to mention a little bit better wage) to all their employees, but no....

The Walton heirs also spend a lot of money perpetuating the lie that Trickle Down/Supply Side economics actually works, when it's been proven that it actually doesn't. But hey, it lets them keep more money while treating their rank-and-file workers like glorified serfs, so go for it...i guess.

Just wondering if I have this right. Walmart makes so much money that they should just give everyone a raise to almost double what minimum wage is, thus making it where no mom & pop operation can get any employees?

For a such smart guy, you certainly lack the common sense with this subject.

Jesus fucking christ you are retarded.

Fuck, its useless to argue with you so I will just call you a fucking retard and go about my day.

In 2004.... One Wal-Mart store with 200 “associates” costs taxpayers over $420,000 per year in government assistance to the poor.

Don't even get me started on the millions in cash incentives they receive from local governments to open new stores. In many cases they are given the land to build on and the city hooks them up for free with water, sewer, etc... all paid by you. The American taxpayer. They also receive millions a year in cash incentives to keep the stores they build, where they are.

They have already put the mom and pops out of business.

Do I really need to mention anything about the chinese?

Holy fuck some of you are stupid as shit on this subject.

I don't know did they? do some fucking research. 3/4 of the people on this board don't know shit. Unless you are currently sober, he knows all about shit.

This morning I ran out of toilet paper. I thought to myself... where the fuck can i get toilet paper to wipe my ass with at 1am? Fuck I dont want to go to walmart. But that was the only place available. At the moment there are no alternatives. I could have wodded up a piece of paper and get all the starch out of it, but Ive grown accustomed to soft delicate paper to wipe my anus clean.

More proof walmart owns my ass.

Walmart employees are pussies.

These guys took over the factories and used GM products to build weapons.

Were you asking anyone specifically?

They are the largest employer in the world. They set the standards on pay.
If they are forced to raise wages, other big box retailers would have to follow suit in order to compete.

Meanwhile, walmart accepts corporate welfare in numerous ways and china is polluting the world and growing stronger.

The only way for Americans to really compete at this point in manufacturing, is flood the prison system with low waged workers for .50 and hour.

If companies like Unicor have their way, that's where we are headed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Prison_Industries

good post :thumbsup

I have a Christmas present for you, its a box and your mind is in it.

Your logic has many flaws and you fail to see the bigger economic picture.

putting walmart out of business would throw the economy into a great depression.

Walmart could do there part to the grow the middle class. Everyone else in America is taking pay cuts but the waltons just keep raking in the dough at the expense of us taxpayers.

all thanks to walmart.

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Anyone here operate a business
 

If you did, you would do everything you could to cut costs. (Sorry if this was brought up but I got nauseous on the first page with the bleeding heart crap)

How many go off shore to save on taxes that would help the plight of these distraught workers? (catch the sarcasm)

You people are pathetic. You want the government out of "our business" but you want it here.

Be thankful that most of these people are actually working. Check out the demographics of the employees before you start crying foul. I think I read somewhere that most Walmart employees have a job, not a career. Think about it.

this is what is destroying my 3rd world shit hole country completely...so sad to see the USA going the same way....

Another of the GFY simpletons with an opinion and nothing to back it up.

Now that the Obama gang thinks they have business where they want it, they are embolden. Yet they forget that it's business that has the cash. Last week the bakers found out first hand who has the power. 18,000 union members go hungry and the owners take their citation jets off to the islands for the holidays.

Here is a short list of where the Obama/democrat campaign funds come from. Do you see the pattern. The top number over every contributor is to the democrats. The lower to the republicans.

American Fed. of State, County, & Municipal Employees
Dem - $40,281,900
Rep - $547,700


Intel Brotherhood of Electrical Workers
Dem - 29,705,600
Reb - 679,000


National Education Association
27,679,300
2,005,200


Service Employees International Union
26,368,470
98,700


Communication Workers of America
26,305,500
125,300


Service Employees International Union
26,252,000
1,086,200


Laborers Union
25,734,000
138,000


American Federation of Teachers
25,682,800
200,000


United Auto Workers
25,082,200
182,700


Teamsters Union
24,926,400
1,822,000


Carpenters and Joiners Union
24,094,100
658,000


Machinists & Aerospace Workers Union
23,875,600
226,300


United Food and Commercial Workers Union
23,182,000
334,200


AFL-CIO
17,124,300
713,500


Sheet Metal Workers Union
16,347,200
342,800


Plumbers & Pipefitters Union
14,790,000
818,500


Operating Engineers Union
13,840,000
2,309,500


Airline Pilots Association
12,806,600
2,398,300


International Association of Firefighters
12,421,700
2,685,400


United Transportation Workers
11,807,000
1,459,300


Ironworkers Union
11,638,900
936,000


American Postal Workers Union
11,633,100
544,300


Nat'l Active & Retired Fed. Employees Association
8,135,400
2,294,600


Seafarers International Union
6,726,800
1,281,300

How exactly is 3-4% annual profits "enormous"?

"Last week the bakers found out first hand who has the power. 18,000 union members go hungry and the owners take their citation jets off to the islands for the holidays."

And that doesn't seem wrong to you? They were doubling their salary while wanting to cut the workers wages in half. They didn't care about the company and while unions have become corrupt themselves, without them they probably would of just fired everyone and hired new people at 10 bucks an hour. It seems if the majority of companies had their way, we'd be going back to the industrial revolution working conditions.

Of course its seems wrong. Typical union bluster in its usual "us against them" fashion. Union member go hungry? Really? Not a very good reason to join a union. Obviously absurd and there's a reason unions are dying in the USA... why follow this sort of stupidity?

because otherwise those at the top will double their salary while cutting the workers wages in half. unions have largely lost their way and some people think that the jolly good ceo's and such would treat their workers fairly without them but history has shown otherwise and it seems to be happening again.

Uhm... sounds like you made that up. Completely.

See, that's the problem. "Fairly". You and unions have to rely on ambiguous and gray concepts like "fair" because that way, goals can never be reached and the fight will always be there.

There is no such thing as "fair" just like the usual BS of taxes and "paying your fair share". No one can define "fair". There is no universal understanding of "fair" as its a subjective concept, forged in ones own personal lack of intelligence, reason and accountability.

The power of unions lies in the rhetoric of "unfair". Thats all they talk about. Everything is "unfair" until a new contract is signed. By the time that contract is concluded and its time to negotiate a new contract, everything, not surprisingly becomes "unfair" again.

Unions are cancer. They are not about fair. They are about taking money and power from the weak. They are about the weak being manipulated into believing everything is constantly "unfair". A message that the uneducated and unskilled are eager to buy.

I have a lot of family that are union members and growing up, I got to watch everyone discuss about how everything was "unfair" while at the same time, they were ALL (all their friends) doing everything they could to rip off job sites, steal tools and all while arguing non stop about how they should be doing as little as humanly possible for the greatest possible pay.

So i guess you believe that workers don't deserve any rights and if they don't like it, they should just quit. it must be nice living in your black and white world where everything is so simple and easy.

"Former Hostess Twinkies CEO tripled salary to $2.5m while preparing to file bankruptcy"

"And a number of top executives reportedly saw massive pay raises, some nearly doubling their salary."

and i was wrong, they only wanted the workers to take a 30% wage cut.

the unions are hitting these companies at the worst of times. :2 cents:

it all depends how you view things, you view this as malice/greed...

all while there is a logical explanation: no one wants to be in charge of a sinking ship, so the company has to pay more to keep the management around... same supply/demand concept that applies to the low level workers... :2 cents:

before calling others stupid you should look at yourself... even if government hooks them up they don't do it out of a good faith, there's obviously huge benefit to local government and community... government never does anything for nothing

I would like to see what mom and pop stores pay compared to walmart. Either way if walmart is paying above minimum wage isn't it the gov's fault for not having the minimum wage higher? I have some employees that I pay maybe 25% higher than walmart pays theirs. To find those employees I hired and fired 10 or so for each good employee I found. I believe that the people walmart hires probably arent smart or competant enough to get higher paying more skilled jobs anywhere else. You guys should be happy that walmart provides so many people with jobs. They employ 1% of the country.

http://www.businessinsider.com/walmart-employees-pay

I'm talking about unions. I'm not talking about Hostess or any single example of anything to illustrate a point. And it how retarded Hostess management and labor are, doesn't change anything I said. The company is obviously poorly run. Unions demanding more of anything isn't going to make it a successful company when its always in financial trouble and dying.

We live in a capitalist economy. Its not always perfect. But pointing out rare imperfections and exceptions to the rule, doesn't mean its "broken". It means that like all things which are man made, its imperfect. The USA is an economic powerhouse because on the whole, it seems to work pretty good.

No where in the world does a poor person feel that everything is "fair".
No where in the world does a poor person accept responsibility for being poor.

Wal Mart replaced a business that had closed. When the "Family owned Rainedbow Market" closed down we were all disappointed and said "It's because of the economy".

The "Rainbow Market" was the anchor of the complex, and within month the two other businesses in the complex also shut down - Taco Bell and a another restaurant. Our best hope was that someone - anyone - would open up a new business there.

Now we have Wal Mart which has three times as many employees as the Rainbow Market. Wal Mart doesn't have health benefits? Well, the employees at the Rainbow Market didn't have health benefits either.

Would your son had made more money working at Burger King?

When I was a kid I worked four jobs and I didn't have health benefits.

McDonalds is the second largest employer in the US. How many of them have health benefits?

Holy cow you are a sore loser. You see everything through politics.

Your party gave us a candidate with a 25% failure rate who left office with a 34% approval rating. You lost.

However you want to look at it. This is how it works. The 1% never lose.

You are funny its the bakers fault not the douchebag management that were taking 70 to 100 percent raises. You have to come up with a new straw man unions make up less than 7 percent of the work force. May old Obama won because he had better ideas then the same tried bullshit your side has been pedaling for years.

I've said before, It doesn't make any difference to my lifestyle who sits in the Whitehouse.So you can save your sore loser nonsense.

Whether you want to accept it or not, I do care about the people that work for us. I also care about people that have lost their homes due to the recession. And for those people it can't and won't improve with this anti-business attitude.

This is the problem with the direction of the nation. Its falling apart because "suck it up", "bust your ass", "learn" and "keep striving for something better" and "be successful" have long since been replaced with "hope and change" and "who's gonna give it to me?" and "what do you mean I can't rap??? - you don't know me!"

You're supposed to get a job digging ditches at 18. You're supposed to have 3 room mates, You're supposed to learn the value of hard work, of sacrifice and money. Your'e supposed to learn a strong work ethic. From that, you're supposed to want more, you're supposed to want to better yourself, educate yourself, improve your skills and to work for the things you want... not sit back and demand them as you do as little as humanly possible. You're not supposed to aspire to make $9.00 an hour as a grown adult and then bitch that life is unfair. The degree to which this nation has been dumbed down is astounding.

We are talking about an entry level job. You are surprised that the least skilled part of our work force is below the average? Even if they raise their wage and it trickles through society, they will still be on the bottom and thus low paid workers. People who take these jobs need the subsidies to go to school or train for better jobs that they then move to.

Being a "greeter" was never meant to be life time employment.

You mean the "management" that gave themselves raises with the approval of the board of directors and shareholders?

Seems quite a few felt there was merit to it? I mean, its not like its a decision thats unilaterally made by a single individual as many attempt to make it sound.

You will be affected Tony. Not me.
If you think Obama has your back, good luck with that.

QFT :thumbsup