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Old 02-17-2003, 02:17 PM   #1
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Fantasy Entertainment Is Now Hiring

RUN YOUR OWN BRANCH OF FANTASY ENTERTAINMENT

FANTASY ENTERTAINMENT was started in 2000 by founder Rob Fantasy to develop and market a concept of global mainstream and adult entertainment. FANTASY ENTERTAINMENT was first introduced into the Hampton-Roads market in 2000. The concept subsequently expanded to Florida, California, New York, and Dallas by late 2002.
To the Company?s knowledge, FANTASY ENTERTAINMENT is the only premium adult entertainment chain in the world. Its high quality and standards has gained fast, widespread acceptance in these markets. In fact, net sales have doubled in the last year for which data are available in all locations. The Company believes that FANTASY ENTERTAINMENT is a brand name that can be associated with premium mainstream and adult entertainment and its concept can be exponentially replicated into global markets.

We are looking for people to run and operate branches of our company in locations all across the globe. Clients, that we help bring to you, will contact you to book male and female entertainers that we also help bring to you, for parties, private viewings, one on ones, special events and modeling assignments. As a branch operator you simply book entertainers, send out entertainers and collect money. All you need is a cell phone and an outgoing personality to make SERIOUS money with us. You choose how much you charge and you choose the percentage you want to pay entertainers.

We are expanding at such a phenomenal rate, we simply cannot cover enough markets to meet demand. Since the launch of our website in late October 2002 our overall business has skyrocketted and continues to expand at an increasing rate. Now is a better time than ever to get started and get through the 'learning curve' of the business. Join the FANTASY ENTERTAINMENT TEAM and be on your way to living the "fantasy life" you always dreamed of.

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Old 02-17-2003, 03:28 PM   #2
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where are the GFY pimps?
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Old 02-17-2003, 03:35 PM   #3
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I'd like to, but I have no idea how to do that
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As a branch operator you simply book entertainers, send out entertainers and collect money.
In other words, you're looking for a pimp? I'm game
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Old 02-17-2003, 03:59 PM   #6
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tell me more.. in plain english, I saw your first post, I don't want to read a book
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A FYI Pimps go to jail more often than webmasters. Also you never have to worry about some model calling you saying I got arrested (while working for you)come bail me out lol
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A FYI Pimps go to jail more often than webmasters. Also you never have to worry about some model calling you saying I got arrested (while working for you)come bail me out lol
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Old 02-17-2003, 04:13 PM   #9
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You mean hookers? Why would people who make good money selling porn legally want to get into something illegal like that? Or are you really just talking about strippers?
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Old 02-17-2003, 04:15 PM   #10
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For more information read our ad on adultstaffing.com...lol, as far as I can tell you posted everything that it says there.
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You mean hookers? Why would people who make good money selling porn legally want to get into something illegal like that? Or are you really just talking about strippers?
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I hate sound on websites that cannot be easily turned off. I imagine lots of dudes surfing the web late at night for a hooker with the wife sleeping two feet away from the computer would feel the same way.............
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ok stop pointing out my stupidity please
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Old 02-17-2003, 04:43 PM   #14
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how many guys do you know that order strippers for parties? i rest my case.

to tell you the truth, we are involved with so much stuff, if you want more information contact me and we can talk in more detail
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If I can be in Vegas and do the job, I'd be interested-please let me know on this thread
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I hate sound on websites that cannot be easily turned off. I imagine lots of dudes surfing the web late at night for a hooker with the wife sleeping two feet away from the computer would feel the same way.............

I'm with you. I think it's right up there with Flash as an annoyance. And when you have to deal with both, that's REALLY special.
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Old 02-17-2003, 08:28 PM   #17
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well man u must have a shitty computer or slow connection. it looks hot as fuck at 1028 x 768.



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nah, we have the best lawyers money can buy, besides we run a clean operation, legal and legit. lets get that money together and stop bullshiting
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thank you guys for the overwhelming response. now lets make that fucking money
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too shy to be surrounded and paid by beautiful women living like a king?? we also have an affiliate program for webmasters 50/50 recurring lifetime. we are a perfect exit for any porn site. we convert like a mutherfucker. so you can live like a king behind a computer
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A FYI Pimps go to jail more often than webmasters. Also you never have to worry about some model calling you saying I got arrested (while working for you)come bail me out lol
Don't be so sure.
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You guys ever hear of a job that wants $2000 up front and $200/mo just to be an "employee"? Me either.
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you would be running your own branch, like ur own business. its a turnkey operation, minimal start up costs, minimal monthly royalty, u keep all profits.

everyone is generating serious cash flow right now. some people know a good opportunity when they see one. we aren't looking for freeloaders looking for a free ride, we are looking for people who know the concept of generating cash. serious people. smart people who understand how much money you can grind out doing things legally.

the people who are running branches right now are business minded individuals who are using this opportunity to grind out extra cash flow, as a side job, aside from their other business ventures. they have other people doin the work for them, they just took advantage of the opportunity and are reaping the rewards.

please, if you have any concerns or comments about our opporunity or company contact me directly. i would be happy to dicuss the opportunity in further detail.

stop hating and join the party
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you would be running your own branch, like ur own business. its a turnkey operation, minimal start up costs, minimal monthly royalty, u keep all profits.

everyone is generating serious cash flow right now. some people know a good opportunity when they see one. we aren't looking for freeloaders looking for a free ride, we are looking for people who know the concept of generating cash. serious people. smart people who understand how much money you can grind out doing things legally.

the people who are running branches right now are business minded individuals who are using this opportunity to grind out extra cash flow, as a side job, aside from their other business ventures. they have other people doin the work for them, they just took advantage of the opportunity and are reaping the rewards.

please, if you have any concerns or comments about our opporunity or company contact me directly. i would be happy to dicuss the opportunity in further detail.

stop hating and join the party
No offense, but this sounds like Amway.
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No offense, but this sounds like Amway.
ISN"T THAT THE PORN WORLD ANYWAY???


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Rob Fantasy? Wasn't that one of the guys from Milli Vanilli?

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I have to pay you $2k upfront? I gotta pay the pimp to be a pimp? Hmm..
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Looks like a bad deal all around to me.

I love these super hyped adultstaffing.com ads. Most of them are total BS.

I recently called one company whose ad claimed to pay $14 an hour.

They said they couldn't hire me because I live in California, and they couldn't comply with California minimum wage laws ...

Meaning that, in reality, they couldn't even pay minimum wage.

So much for the $14 an hour claim in the ad. LOL.

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Looks like a bad deal all around to me.

I love these super hyped adultstaffing.com ads. Most of them are total BS.

I recently called one company whose ad claimed to pay $14 an hour.

They said they couldn't hire me because I live in California, and they couldn't comply with California minimum wage laws ...

Meaning that, in reality, they couldn't even pay minimum wage.

So much for the $14 an hour claim in the ad. LOL.
damn $14 an hour, u'd be better off collecting unemployment and enjoying the weather.. its funny how you try to knock us my friend, but i wont stoop to your level badmouthing or talking shit, i am a stand up guy, its not in my character.

we are getting an overwhelming response to this ad so it might take us a day or two to get back with you, please bear with us

but trust me, we will take care of you, if you have the motivation and determination to get money out of this industry, we want to help you get that peice of the pie. we want you to join our team and get this money together.

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its funny how you try to knock us my friend, but i wont stoop to your level badmouthing or talking shit, i am a stand up guy, its not in my character.
I was just pointing out the fact that there are a ton of bullshit ads in adultstaffing.com.

If you're asking $2,000 up front -- that's pretty ridiculous. Especially for a business with obvious potential legal problems

Hell ... that's the oldest employment scam around. Been around for years.
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You had *me* thinking until I saw there are 'franchise' fees. But what would an ex-dancer know about that World anyhow. Maybe I should stick to proof-reading and page editing on sites.
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I was just pointing out the fact that there are a ton of bullshit ads in adultstaffing.com.

If you're asking $2,000 up front -- that's pretty ridiculous. Especially for a business with obvious potential legal problems

Hell ... that's the oldest employment scam around. Been around for years.

i take offense to your notion that our operation is a scam. it takes money to make money in any business with this type of return. 2k is a minimal investment, if you cant afford it, you probably arent the type of person who would be successful with us. your ROI will be 10x what you put up within a few months and getting over the learning curve of the business. you dont know this business and how much money is generated from it. we have the know how, resources and methodology which has proven sucessful in numerous metro areas. we know what we are doing. we want others to make money with us at the same time while helping us grow and expand into other markets.
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Rob... think about it a little more in depth... even someone in Quiets cash surplus column would hesitate to hand over 2k to someone he didn't know from Adam and all based on your word. Making the option to pay the 2k and 200 from the first PROFITS might be your better option and if profits aren't made within a few months then it's a bust.

You made mention of you having the best attorneys... all well and good for YOU, but an affiliate-partner is still on their own hook for legal defenses. An attorney (even if willing) just doesn't hop a jet like they do on 'The Practice' to another state and practice law without being licensed in that state.

And you never followed up with that statement that YOU would provide legal counsel out of a mutual fund... most partnerships in businesses today do that.

So don't automatically assume that someone either doesn't have the cash or aren't suited for that line of work. Assume someone just flat out doesn't trust someone they don't know well enough to toss them over a cliff. ;-)p
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Why would people pay $39.95 a month to enter your site ,when they can go to eros to find girls all day long for free? Also what is the $2000 for ?
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i take offense to your notion that our operation is a scam. it takes money to make money in any business with this type of return. 2k is a minimal investment, if you cant afford it, you probably arent the type of person who would be successful with us. your ROI will be 10x what you put up within a few months and getting over the learning curve of the business. you dont know this business and how much money is generated from it. we have the know how, resources and methodology which has proven sucessful in numerous metro areas. we know what we are doing. we want others to make money with us at the same time while helping us grow and expand into other markets.
Pre-paying for ANYTHING up front is just plain stupid -- especially $2,000 --- and begging to get ripped off, unless they are running their own business that THEY control. NOT paying someone else. That's just common sense, and anyone soliciting this kind of thing is running a scam.

The Federal Trade Commission has a long list of employment scams just like this --- you can look it up on their website.

But your deal is even more outrageous. You're not only asking for people to pre-pay for a questionable operation, but you're also asking them to take on a legal risk that goes far beyond most employment scams.

The title of your ad is "Fantasy Entertainment is Hiring." Legitimate employers don't require employees to pay $2,000 up front and then some as employees.

Legitimate employers PAY their employees, not the other way around.

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i take offense to your notion that our operation is a scam. it takes money to make money in any business with this type of return. 2k is a minimal investment, if you cant afford it, you probably arent the type of person who would be successful with us. your ROI will be 10x what you put up within a few months and getting over the learning curve of the business. you dont know this business and how much money is generated from it. we have the know how, resources and methodology which has proven sucessful in numerous metro areas. we know what we are doing. we want others to make money with us at the same time while helping us grow and expand into other markets.
Not wanting to get in the middle of all this, but I hope you know the laws WELL and understand that making a statement guaranteeing 10x ROI in a matter of months is VERY risky and could land you in some serious problems if any franchisee doesn't perform at that level.

Anyone even thinking of doing this, request full financial statements first, including financial statements detailing how well or poorly every other person who has signed up for the "opportunity" has done. My understanding of the laws, is that he is required by law to provide that info to you.

Also, based on what I see, it appears you are the legal definition of a franchise operation. I hope you have fully researched franchise laws, because they are serious, intensive, and open you up to whole regimens of legal requirements and obligations that a normal business is not subject to.

My 2 cents.
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Old 02-21-2003, 08:24 AM   #41
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Based on what I see, it appears you are the legal definition of a franchise operation. I hope you have fully researched franchise laws, because they are serious, intensive, and open you up to whole regimens of legal requirements and obligations that a normal business is not subject to.

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No kidding. That is serious stuff. There are MANY disclosure requirements and, if you don't follow those, you're begging for a lawsuit.

My 2 cents as well.
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Not wanting to get in the middle of all this, but I hope you know the laws WELL and understand that making a statement guaranteeing 10x ROI in a matter of months is VERY risky and could land you in some serious problems if any franchisee doesn't perform at that level.

Anyone even thinking of doing this, request full financial statements first, including financial statements detailing how well or poorly every other person who has signed up for the "opportunity" has done. My understanding of the laws, is that he is required by law to provide that info to you.

Also, based on what I see, it appears you are the legal definition of a franchise operation. I hope you have fully researched franchise laws, because they are serious, intensive, and open you up to whole regimens of legal requirements and obligations that a normal business is not subject to.

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Why would people pay $39.95 a month to enter your site ,when they can go to eros to find girls all day long for free?
a) this is not a 'franchise' per se , each branch is an independent representative of the company.

b)when i say you will be making 10x ROI, that statement was a generalization based on the context of the conversation. but as far as contractual language, like in any business there is no garuntee on money you make.

c)we have over 35 people running their own operations and making money.

d)we have a target market willing to pay $39.95 for membership into our network.



like i said, its all about if this type of business is for you. the skeptics actually end up making more people get started. so thank you.
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this is not a 'franchise' per se , each branch is an independent representative of the company.
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So you describe the "employee" as a sub-contractor... and NOT an employee or francisee.

Hence, if legal troubles develop due to running a "branch" of your company the "sub-contractor" is on his/her own. lol The line about your attorney was subterfuge to cloud someones mind.

Yet the fee's... those ARE franchise related. You can't have both under most state laws. Sub-contractors paying a "fee" is paying for the rights to do the work........

....H'mmmmm, you'd better check with the Rico Act on that subject. Someone paying to be a subcontractor is buying their way in, which discriminates against other like-minded "fair" subs. I'm not sure what a DA might call it. But I know what they call it in NYC.

If someone on the fence falls for this 'great opportunity' due to a skeptic expressing real questions which you slide by with the "it might not be for everyone line", then they need to talk to a lawyer first a shrink right after.
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So you describe the "employee" as a sub-contractor... and NOT an employee or francisee.

Hence, if legal troubles develop due to running a "branch" of your company the "sub-contractor" is on his/her own. lol The line about your attorney was subterfuge to cloud someones mind.

Yet the fee's... those ARE franchise related. You can't have both under most state laws. Sub-contractors paying a "fee" is paying for the rights to do the work........

Great point. He probably can't have it both ways legally.

If I'm not mistaken, he's in California. And California has some of the toughest laws on this kind of thing.

But I think it's pretty obvious he doesn't care much about the law anyway.
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Why would any successful webmaster with $2k and the know-how pay to get into such a bad situation?

They could easily do this on their own... I don't see anything unique about this.

That, and if I wanted to buy my own local setup for a franchise, I would open that Aunt Anne's pretzel shop at the mall I have been dreaming about for years... or kick $100k towards bringing Del Taco to the Bay Area.

Our biz is not the place to sell franchise licenses.

And the phrase "hiring" referred to in the title of this thread is mis-leading. I have worked many six figure jobs, and none required a cent from me. In fact, they all gave me high 4 figure bonuses for signing on.

What a scam! Send these guys your 2k and set aside 20k for your legal bills. Hell, you're probably better off (and legally safer) sending money to those spammers who want to talk to you about "home-based business opportunities."
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this is not a 'franchise' per se , each branch is an independent representative of the company.
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So you describe the "employee" as a sub-contractor... and NOT an employee or francisee.

Hence, if legal troubles develop due to running a "branch" of your company the "sub-contractor" is on his/her own. lol The line about your attorney was subterfuge to cloud someones mind.

Yet the fee's... those ARE franchise related. You can't have both under most state laws. Sub-contractors paying a "fee" is paying for the rights to do the work........

....H'mmmmm, you'd better check with the Rico Act on that subject. Someone paying to be a subcontractor is buying their way in, which discriminates against other like-minded "fair" subs. I'm not sure what a DA might call it. But I know what they call it in NYC.

If someone on the fence falls for this 'great opportunity' due to a skeptic expressing real questions which you slide by with the "it might not be for everyone line", then they need to talk to a lawyer first a shrink right after.
they are independent representatives of the company. im not sliding any questions, im not wasting time on skeptics, we have too many serious applicants to deal with at the moment, and there is no use in wasting time defending slanderous statements from people who arent serious about getting started.

our marketing gameplan has proven succesful thus far. the cost's of starting up are what they are. we are taking on an innovative approach to direct marketing both in the real world and on the internet to help our company grow. the concept is simple, everyone involved in our operation makes money and are motivated by profit, we use our rep's as marketing agents on a large scale to cover as many markets as we can, while the reps use us as a backbone for their local market operations on the small scale.

say a business traveler is a member of our network, they travel from city to city, they can log into our site from wherever and browse the entertainers we have in the locations we have listed, managed by the branch operators.. the business traveler can then book the entertainer online or call the branch operator directly. the branch operator who merely books the appointment, keeps all the profits and pays out the entertainer, none being skimmed by the company. as the branch operator promotes for there own location, they in turn are promoting the company as a whole. they are expanding our client base and creating more awareness of the company. this concept works for all aspects of "entertainment" in which we are involved with. a mere database of entertainers for any occasion is accessible worldwide 24/7.

our company promotes entertainment for one on ones, parties, private viewings, special events, club?s, print and film work, internet content, netmeetings, modeling and much much more.

there are so many angles for enterprenuerial minds to financialy gain off of our set up. you are paying for the support and know how and for the opportunity to make money with an innovative established company. we are growing at a phenomenal rate, and the people who are involved enjoy what they are doing and enjoy being a part of this operation.

as far as legalities, everything is done by the book. no one is cutting corners or undermining our operation. we keep a close realtionship with each rep involved with our company. we have contracts with all contractors who contract work (entertainers) from us and the branch locations. this is a perfectly legal business model that has been scrutinized by our expert legal team and caused us no complications thus far. if you play by the rules, you will succeed, we are here for the long run.

i dont see why certain people are being so negative towards us. i am not a negative person but i am a skeptic. rather than bash a fellow entreprenuer i would ask questions or ask for clarification, not try to defamate character. thats real petty and childish.

but i dont want to finish this post on a sour note. i hope this rant brings some more clarification as to what we are trying to accomplish and how you can benefit from our company.

once again if you have any questions or concerns feel free to contact me at any time. i love meeting new people
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the skeptics actually end up making more people get started. so thank you.
LMAO I always love it when people use that type of reverse psychology to try and get detractors to shut up on message boards.

I'm sure right now everyone here is thinking "Oh no we better be quiet, we are inadvertantly helping this guy out!"



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lol

What a load of Crap.

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LMAO I always love it when people use that type of reverse psychology to try and get detractors to shut up on message boards.

I'm sure right now everyone here is thinking "Oh no we better be quiet, we are inadvertantly helping this guy out!"



no reverse psychology my friend, the more skeptics, the more hype, the more people contact us directly to inquire about our operation, once we explain to them what we are doing along with answering any questions they have, the majority of them get started immediately.

we have nothing to hide. and no ill will towards "detractors".

have a nice day
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