Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19317611)

lol, have another beer!

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19317610)

Shotsie … What's truly sad about EPA laws is how the American consumer won't allow anything but green! green! green! in the US but allows their goods to be produced with almost no guidelines in other countries.

A true environmentalist would insist on not just local compliance with EPA laws but worldwide or boycott the product. The cost of environmental impact studies and compliance costs do indeed drive companies overseas. And asshat consumers get their cheaper products at the expense of someone else's polluted backyard.

Originally Posted by Shotsie (Post 19317598)

Really, really backwards. This is even more surprising coming from you, Bubba Gump, seeing as how you live in one of those right-to-work states - Louisiana - with some of the lowest wages and the highest rates of poverty in America. Also, being a fledgling shrimp boat captain, I would think you of all people, would understand the necessity of regulation agencies like the EPA, seeing as how your fishing grounds in the Gulf of Mexico were completely devastated not even two years ago via the reckless disregard for environmental safety courtesy of British Petroleum. And how, pray tell, does an American worker compete with some serf from Zhejiang Province who's willing to work fourteen hour shifts for three dollars a day?

The American 20th century was as great as it was because of the creative tension between labor and capital, with neither side completely subduing the other. One was able to generate mass wealth, alleviated only by the influence of the other, which was, through collective bargaining, thanks to the unions, able to take the American laboring class and transform it to a consumer class that drove our economy to extraordinary heights. That is what has made America great.

“The future of America is the future of labor.”

John L. Lewis, a union organizer, said that and sadly, the last thirty years have proved him exactly right.

We’ve been dismantling that consumer class and organized labor systematically for the last thirty years, and now, we wonder why we’re not able to sell ourselves not only the things we need, but the things we don’t need - the discretionary purchases like porn - that drive our economy. When labor is perceived only as a cost, and not as a societal asset, the result will, in the long run, be economic stagnation. Since 1980, real wages going down, more wealth concentrated in the one-percent, more societal debt, the decline of collective bargaining and trade unionism as a core value in American life, etc. And big surprise, the lowest wages and the highest rates of poverty in America are all in right-to-work states.

Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 19317661)

Low-level workers typically start near minimum wage, and have the potential to earn raises of 20 to 40 cents an hour through incremental promotions. Flawless performance merits a 60 cent raise per year under the policy, regardless of how much time an employee has worked for the company. [Click here to read the full pay policy] As a result, a "solid performer" who starts at Walmart as a cart pusher making $8 an hour and receives one promotion, about the average rate, can expect to make $10.60 after working at the company for 6 years.

and guess who pays for people getting poverty wages? We do.

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19317670)

And just how much cheaper is a chinese produced piece of shit at walmart when you add food stamps and government medical cards for the families of their employees? Consumers need to get their heads out of the sand.

Originally Posted by SilentKnight (Post 19317458)

Union greed - standing by outdated principles - well done folks.

Now 18,500 of you are unemployed.

Way to go. Keep driving those nails into the union coffins. :thumbsup

Originally Posted by Failed (Post 19317156)

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*Edit - When I first read the title I thought there were going to be pics of a restaurant hostess looking for work in the porn biz :D

Originally Posted by TisMe (Post 19317629)

2nd time in Bankruptcy for Hostess, the Teamsters Union has signed onto the deal and has been urging the Bakers Union to do the same.

The Bakers Union seem to feel that they'll have a better shot with the new owners if someone steps up and buys them out.

The company was offered around for sale recently and there were no takers.

Problem is what if someone buys just the trade names and recipes?

That would leave all or most of the employees without jobs.

Originally Posted by Spunky (Post 19317113)

They are still made in Montreal..Canada still has the twinkies!