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here we go. 2 people die and now everyone is going crazy with fear.
this exactly what they want
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Earlier this month, Mr Hollande said France was taking seriously a call by al Qaeda's north African wing for Muslims worldwide to launch attacks against the country's interests over its military operation in Mali.
How do you say someone is of "north African" origin?
Sounds like the "holy war" has started.....Comment
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They have been killing soldiers for thousands of years, but now - when the fight is brought to your hometown instead of some African/Asian shithole where you cant see the blood - you suddenly care?
...fuck you and your hypocrite friends!Comment
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If they start doing it to civi's it will be a sure as shit way to stop the wars & bs because popular opinion will dictate that. It's easy to be pro war, or at least a silent participant, when it's button pushing but if it's brought to your backyard it's a different ball game.
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Sorry no... this is not how it works... Popular opinion doesn't mean crap, and it can be changed since the media shapes popular opinion.
We will be whipped into a muslim hating frenzy and start more wars...
Of and of course, give up more of our freedom in the name of security.I don't endorse a god damn thing......
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IMHO American media should show 30 minutes of uncensored war footage on TV every night. Show the dead women and children, people being gunned down, injured kids in the hospital, dead soldiers, and so on. I don't understand how anyone could support war if they don't even know what it looks like. Like you said, it's easy to push buttons or say you support a war, but when it is in your own back yard suddenly it is real and it is ugly.
This may sound shitty, but I think it needs to come to the back yards so people wake up and demand their governments stop whatever wars they are in. Civilians need to be exposed to atrocities if there is ever a chance for the bloodshed to end. As ugly as that may be, it is the only way to wake them up.Comment
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are you serious? this is all over the news. the amount of fear and panic that is being created from this is unreal
please tell me your joking.
its dominated the english papers for 4 days now. front page news.
people are idiots. they think a stabbing occurred on the street to one soldier, then it will happen to them.
you quite clearly don't understand the term "terror" in terrorism.Last edited by scottybuzz; 05-26-2013, 05:32 AM.Comment
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It was one soldier and he was not killed - Thread fail...Comment
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Hate to agree but its true, hat eto play devil's advocate but this is what happens when you occupy and treat people like trash in there own country. And being a white country, you would think its happened enough to you to have learned by now to stay out of other countries affairs.Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More
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do people seriously think the average person has any fucking say in invading, or not, other countries? And on top of that, has no right to be pissed off, lest they be labelled a hypocrite?
This board gets nuttier by the day lol
Anyway, I'm off for a meeting with gov't officials to decide (tell them) our next course of action, even if it *is* a Sunday
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That's one of the things that helped Vietnam end. Press coverage.
IMHO American media should show 30 minutes of uncensored war footage on TV every night. Show the dead women and children, people being gunned down, injured kids in the hospital, dead soldiers, and so on. I don't understand how anyone could support war if they don't even know what it looks like. Like you said, it's easy to push buttons or say you support a war, but when it is in your own back yard suddenly it is real and it is ugly.
This may sound shitty, but I think it needs to come to the back yards so people wake up and demand their governments stop whatever wars they are in. Civilians need to be exposed to atrocities if there is ever a chance for the bloodshed to end. As ugly as that may be, it is the only way to wake them up.
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You mean thats one of the things that ultimately helped the north vietnamese/communist/soviet supported troops over run the rest of the country and establish a communist and soviet supported nation? You remember the soviets right? The ones that had 3000+ nukes pointed at you and wanted to take over the world and spread communism to every corner of the earth?? ;)Last edited by TheSquealer; 05-26-2013, 08:16 AM..
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Wanting peace is irrelevant when there will always be others who want war..
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The Soviet Union was a Stalinist country. Lenin and Trotksy believed in international socialism; Stalin didn't give a fuck. Hell, he wasn't even a socialist/communist.
As for the Communist take over of Vietnam. So what? What difference does it make to the US what the political persuasion of the Vietnamese Government is? I don't see them giving a shit about ours.
PS. The last time shit was brought to our back yard was eleven and half years ago. We all know how much that deterred us from interfering in other countries.Comment
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Yeah right. Just like it didn't matter that Germany started building up arms and violating all its agreements pre-WWII or just happened to annex Austria - What could go wrong???, or Japan started building up its arms again after a decades long psychopathic, genocidal rampage across its own region etc etc etc etc etc. The Soviet Unions influence was minimalized in the world because the west worked hard to do so through every means possible.
Saying "so what" to the threat of people that gleefully killed 10's of millions of their own people to transform a nation and bring it into the industrial age, using its own people as a slave labor force and then attempted to take over the world to spread their influence and the joys of the Soviet Union, is absurd. Spend some time as I have in Russian cities like Magadan or outposts in the far east full of old prison camps as I have and you might get a little perspective and understand that arguing the semantics of what label is applied to a system of government or economic system is 100% irrelevant to the wake of misery and murder it left behind.Last edited by TheSquealer; 05-26-2013, 08:41 AM..
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You're talking about the Soviet Union, not Vietnam. Pretty sure if we hadn't interfered in the latter there'd several million more Vietnamese alive today.
As for Vietnam/WWII analogies, how about this one. Germany invades France because it sees France being a threat, or obstacle, to German interests. That's how we roll too, isn't it?
Difference is France was a genuine threat/obstacle to Germany and its interests, unlike Vietnam, which was no threat to anyone except our good buddies in the Khmer Rouge.Comment
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The US was involved in Vietnam because the Soviet Union was involved in Vietnam. (also because of China and their own desire to spread their charming brand of "peoples revolution" where children get mad at their parents and have their parents executed. Believing they aren't related is absurd. It was already a war between north and south when the French left and before the Soviets/US got involved. It wasn't going to end well for anyone, no matter what.Last edited by TheSquealer; 05-26-2013, 09:10 AM..
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It doesn't matter who else was involved in Vietnam (which was at least in their sphere of influence), the bottom line is it was not our business, it posed zero threat to us, we shouldn't have been there and the entire escapade did nothing but taint the reputation of the country. Same as more recent wars.
It's impossible to know how many were killed. Probably at least one million though. Why?Comment
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Killed....?Comment
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No, they died of natural causes at a time when a war was coincidentally taking place.Comment
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Well I live in England... and no I am not scared....
are you serious? this is all over the news. the amount of fear and panic that is being created from this is unreal
please tell me your joking.
its dominated the english papers for 4 days now. front page news.
people are idiots. they think a stabbing occurred on the street to one soldier, then it will happen to them.
you quite clearly don't understand the term "terror" in terrorism.
But of course I agree.. the media are using this to beat the war drums and attempt (very successfully) to steer up a frenzy...
Personally... I couldn't give a fuck....I don't endorse a god damn thing......Comment
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People should be taking machetes to Mandelson and his party and his "ilk" all across the world. Hack them all into mutherfucking tiny pieces and feed them to the dogs.
Sweden is on fire and US media is calling Sweden a success story for welfare states.
I think the Nigerian attacks have more to do with UK/BP and Shell raping up the oil resources in Nigeria. Only a few Nigerians benefit. The scummiest of the scumbags. One of the killers refers to it as he is standing in the street preaching to an iphone while he is covered in blood.
These stories are about money grubbing zionists and their manipulation of populations for financial gain and political profit.
Its now obvious that machetes do not speak in a politically correct manner. Agreed?
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good on you,
the daily mail made a story about this guy eating a kebab 48 hours before he was killed
wtf does that have to do with the murder?
they are giving the terrorists exactly what they want.
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I think we should pull COMPLETLY out of the Mideast, Africa and every other shithole in the world
IMHO American media should show 30 minutes of uncensored war footage on TV every night. Show the dead women and children, people being gunned down, injured kids in the hospital, dead soldiers, and so on. I don't understand how anyone could support war if they don't even know what it looks like. Like you said, it's easy to push buttons or say you support a war, but when it is in your own back yard suddenly it is real and it is ugly.
This may sound shitty, but I think it needs to come to the back yards so people wake up and demand their governments stop whatever wars they are in. Civilians need to be exposed to atrocities if there is ever a chance for the bloodshed to end. As ugly as that may be, it is the only way to wake them up.
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WW3, whenever it happens, is going to cleanse the earth of arabs. Oil producing countries will be the battlefields of WW3.
Europe and the Americans on one side. Russia and Asia on the other. Defensive positions will be taken up primarily by arabs, with the superpowers pummeling them. When this extermination is complete, the two sides will end the war and divide control of the land.Comment
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The Swedish welfare system isn't as loose as the US is familiar with. They have very high taxation in that region, but they get representation for their taxation.
The insurgence of middle eastern and African leaches going there specifically to abuse that system is what has thrown a wrench in things. If you want to know what the Swedish "welfare system" was like before those people showed up, imagine the US without its stereotypical welfare recipients. Then you are left with a system used by people only when they truly need it while they work hard to get back on their feet.
IMO immigrants to any nation should not qualify for any type of welfare whatsoever. If you are taking the huge leap of moving to another country then your financial ducks should be in a row or you should have life sustaining work lined up. If you can't do that, then you shouldn't be welcome into the country.Comment
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They breed at least equally as quickly as they kill each other though. An event needs to happen where they are wiped out.
The people of the middle east contribute absolutely nothing to society. They never have. And don't say oil. Anyone can be sent in to pump oil. They as people are worthless to human society. Can anyone here name an invention to come out of the middle east in the past 1,000 years?Last edited by Matt 26z; 05-26-2013, 12:44 PM.Comment
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That's not true. You are confusing "direct and imminent threat" with the long term threat of the Soviet Union which was exactly why the US got involved.... as well as ignoring the welfare of the people involved. You can blame vietnamese deaths on the US all you want, but there was ALREADY a war happening. ALREADY 1,000,000+ refugees and people already being massacred all over the countryside. The Soviet Union took over and occupied eastern Europe - under the guise of "freeing the people and protecting them" and plunged them into nearly complete darkness. Expanding territory, influence and military advantage WHILE wanting to take over the world is everyones problem. They were attempting to gain influence when and where they could which included strengthening and empowering and supporting a most of the worlds worst actors that the time.
Anyway... argue for peace all you want apologize for the US all you want. Its irrelevant. People all over the world want war. People all over the world want power. People all over the world want to become king of the planet.
.... "you may not want war, but war wants you" - hence the need to be offensive about it and to plan for long term, so that those that benefit from it, have the luxury of whining and complaining and pointing fingers instead of being locked in a chinese re-education camp.Last edited by TheSquealer; 05-26-2013, 12:50 PM..
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Well the reds got Vietnam anyway, and what happened to us as a result? Nothing.
People around the world don't want war, and they don't want power. People around the world just want to be left alone to live their lives.
I think people around the world love America, they just hate our foreign policy. I think most people in this country want us to just stay the fuck out of other countries' business, and I think people in those other countries want that too.
You'd think there wouldn't be a problem.Last edited by helterskelter808; 05-26-2013, 01:02 PM.Comment
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The result is that it became one of the many places where they over extended themselves and got bogged down financially and militarily while at the same time spending the coming decades trying to keep up with Western military growth until they collapsed in on themselves and became irrelevant and failed.
Most people want that. Not all people. Many people want power. Many people want "more" than when they have. Many people will ascend to power simply because they are psychotic lunatics.People around the world don't want war, and they don't want power. People around the world just want to be left alone to live their lives.
I've been around the world. I've spent more time traveling and being in and living in foreign countries than almost every single person on this forum. The majority of the world loves an idea that doesn't exist "the american dream" and what it represents. The majority of the world thinks Americans are exactly what they are... loud, arrogant, fat, naive, detached and ignorant.I think people around the world love America, they just hate our foreign policy. I think most people in this country want us to just stay the fuck out of other countries' business, and I think people in those other countries want that too..
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