Slaw

I'm webmaster of sexy-models.net , I contacted Sleazy Dream by ICQ for the traffic trade.. He said: "send traffic during couple days and let me look". Okay, strange idea, and not easy for normal site, but why not.. man place permanent links, he has good big trades, nice reputation?

I contacted him later and I started to send traffic, I sent 5100-5500 per day, during 3 days approx. On the second day I asked him to check the stats and add the link back to my site. He said: "Ok". On the next day I contacted him again: he said: "Ok". It was the last message from him.... I thought - may be tech problems? I contacted again and again, but nothing... So i removed link and i'm little disappointed (

Today our dialog by ICQ:
me: are you there?
me: i'll post topic at GFY.
Sleazy Dream: please do it.

?????

What do you think about all this?

I never lost so much traffic and by this kind of method.... I'm really disappointed and i'm really not happy......

Who also lost traffic with SleazyDream.com ?

he at least could say me by ICQ, for example: man, i don't like your traffic , pls stop to send this.

i asked him many times, but it was silence.... till today.

i still have no idea what a problem.

P.S. sorry for my bad english.

X37375787

it's just Sleazy's rules. Follow them or don't...

gothweb

Have you considered the possibility that he didn't cheat you, but rather that you just didn't understand what he was agreeing to? It sounds like you might just have misunderstood.

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Ross

its his rules to send in 5K per day without any back?
fair enough

I have heard of some people saying you must send in 2K and stuff before getting any back, but never that much

but hey if thats the way Sleazy does it then thats cool
Not my preferred way but each to their own!

Slaw

Rules to ignor me? Could he say "NO" at least?

Pipecrew

this thread will probably get big

Theo

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Slaw

There are NO rules on his site, just his words approx: show me that you have THIS ammount traffic for trade.

seven

sexy-models.net returns traffic and has very high productivity to my TGPs so I don't see why any other TGPs would mind his traffic

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Slaw

also he said, if i can not send traffic without returns, so i'm just fuckin CJ... okay, i placed some small perm link in my gallery list, targeted to fuck niche, because sleazydream is hardcore-fuck site.. in this way i can send without returns (not throuth script).

all other details read above.....

Brad Mitchell

I sale you ICQ number.

Libertine

While this isn't cheating, it isn't exactly good business either. Not good for reputations at all.

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Kimmykim

we have all your base.


Cmon guys, we've been making fun of Sleazy on this board for a long time about his crazy requirements... hell I think you used to have to send 7k a day to get considered... along with a check for 300 bucks to pay for dinner ;)

SleazyDream

there used to be rules. There is none now cause I'm not asking for new trades and havn't been for many months now.

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Marihuana

Yeah, it's cool

16k has been merged in a toilet bowl ...

It is necessary to think before a sending of high-quality traffic

Mr.Fiction

Is this thread a publicity stunt?

Slaw

these are your words from ICQ history: "start sending then and I'll judge your traffic and see if I want to trade with you."

my question: "how long time you'll look? in a hour?"

your answer: "couple of days."


This is not funny, if its a joke.

Dildozer

ah nothing like the overinflated ego of tgp owners

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SleazyDream

the guy's opening line to me was 'lets trade 50-100K a day"
the site isn't that big, and his sextracker stats don't show much flowthrough traffic. Where oh where does this magical traffic come from?????????????????

trading 100K with a site that has 139k..... if you consider bookmarks it would mean he would have to drop EVERY other trade he had. that alone means he doesn't care about anyone he's already trading with. - note for those that are defending him here.

uniques 139K total 170K - rank 51

look at the site - it's blind traffic - if it's high productivity then it's got a LARGE percentge of hitbot traffic in it. PURE AND SIMPLE.... GROW UP PEOPLE AND USE YOUR FUCKIN BRAINS ONCE AND A WHILE. the quality of that traffic should be the same as most other large HONEST blind scripted TGPs and be quite low. if it isn't something FISHY is going on there.

think about it.... oh, and guess where he lives.....Russia.........


open your fuckin eyes people and question things once in a while..........

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jimmyf

don't think it was a joke.

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Mr.Fiction

Interesing.

Hopefully the owner will explain where the 100,000 a day comes from.

Pipecrew

I gotta agree with sleazy!

miguel7

russian webmaster = automatically cheater???
Slaw is one of the honest webmasters what I know. He helped me about 3 years ago on my beginning!
I trade with sexy-models.net over 2 years...

Marihuana

Do you have something against Russia???

SleazyDream

i have nothing against russia or russian webmasters, I know a few reputable webmasters from there.

But there is also a HUGLY dispoportionate number of cheaters from Russia and if you don't believe that then you got your head stuck in the sand. Pure and simple.

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SleazyDream

interesting endorsement since you're from Czech


lol

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miguel7

I'm webmaster of sexy-photos.net and I'm sending to your site hotsexseries.com 700-1k for couple days....
And after 1 week I will ask you for trade...(as in your rules) Will you tell me "OK" too???

JFPdude

I gotta say when I started my first tgp I asked sleazy about a trade and he gave me the same thing about sendng traffic for a few days.

At the time I couldn't do that because it would have hurt my other trades.

This is the exact reason Sleazy does this. If you can't afford to send him the traffic what happens when you have a cheater cheating your tgp and then you owe your trades?

The tgp game isn't easy to be successful to the point sleazy has made his successful. It'sd also harder to keep the cheaters out of the game.

I am going to have to stand behind sleazy on this. Besides they are his rules... he doesn't make them up as he goes they have been his rules for a while. If you really want to trade with him that bad then you need to follow his guidelines. If not theres a large web out there you can move on down the road with.


BTW this is the exact reason I don't trade traffic. After sleazy pointed this out to me I looked for alternative traffic. I got tired of hitbots to the point I started cheatski.com if anybody was wondering what pissed me off to the point of registering that domain there's your answer.

SleazyDream

i don't run hotsexseries, my brother does.

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miguel7

I have to apologize for my birthplace!

Slaw

all who have serious scripted site know how its easy when both sides send traffic - to force a large ammount hits per hour.

i have experience of sending 2000 uniques per hour and i know what i do.

also, few days ago i had little more traffic.

also, sextracker just at the bottom of my long page, it counts not accurately, its obviously.

But by in.cgi (ssi include) counter I have approx 330k for the last 24 hours. I trade by script, not by sextracker like some strange guys, however when i send to site with sextracker at the top - the stats are usually the same (in his sextracker)

yes, sleazydream just look for his # Rank in sextracker..... oh, its so important for him..

SleazyDream

there is also a large percentage of the cheaters/hitbotters out there from Czech... but don't get me wrong, there are also some honest and hardworking people from there as well.


think I'm crazy about that? why do MANY of the top affiliate programs out there bann people from those countries. hummmm?

a few bad apples from where you live HAVE in fact caused everyone from those loactions to be branded cheaters. Unfortunatly those that arn't have to work extra hard to prove themsleves in the current adult marketplace. Sure it's not fair, but that's life.

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seven

I dunno nothing about 100k trades I only have a couple moderate trades with him. His productivity is high but not abnormally high. I have other trades that have prod higher than his. I don't really think he's using a hitbot at the same token, I'd like to hear an explanation for that '100k' from him.. curious..

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Slaw

but real question: where sleazydream will find 100k per day(to trade) on his bookmark-based site and with his fixed, not so big trades?

SleazyDream

stable traffic doesn't doube and then half itself overnight.
when was the last time you saw the hun go from 1.7million to 800K day to day?

ummmm, hitbot traffic does though...

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Slaw

read above

SleazyDream

i don't trade 100k with anyone. I don't even trade 50K with anyone.

I do have a LOT of bookmarks, ask sextracker - they will verify.

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seven

Got it! You guys are faster than me

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seven

If so, why did you even bother to ask him to send you traffic? ..just curious

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SleazyDream

note - I NEVER ONCE said OK i would trade with him. He asked if he could send me traffic, I said 'OK" - anyone can send me traffic. I don't discriminate about that.

I NEVER said i would send any back. The ONLY thing I said is that I would judge his traffic. He wanted an answer before I knew whether or not I wanted to send any back so he stopped sending and got all mad.

I tell anyone who wants to send me traffic "ok".

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TDF

wow...gimme free traffic...LMAO

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SleazyDream

here's the icq log of when he first contacted me.

v- hello

sd - hi

v - 50-100K trade. I look for permanent trade

sd- start sending and then I'll judge your traffic and see if I want to trade with you

v- how long till you'll look?

sd - a couple of days

v - how much to send?

sd - you said 50-100K a day



I NEVER ONCE said I'd send anything back, just that I'd judge the traffic to see IF i wanted to trade with him.

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SleazyDream

you're more than welcome to send me traffic too.

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Va2k

Sleazy is god didn't ya know this? Sleazy is Sleazy you have to respect him for this? WHy because he not only will do this with you, but he will do it to everyone, Why because he is sleazy, why is sleazy, sleazy? because he is sleazy, Got it! Btw anyone GOT SLEAZY?

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TDF

I have over a 110k...but no thanx

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Slaw

the hun is just type of site, nothing else.. is not the point for everybody.

yes, i guess, he is bookmark based site..... i did not see his server logs...

i showed you my search engeen traffic logs for the some last minutes, i have over 150 active trades, i have bookmarks, i know from where my traffic is.

yeah...... sites like my own have flexible trade system.. may be you never used scripts like UCJ or RB, but its just your style...

shi*.... i never used hitbots.. forget about it...

Slaw

no comments.

Brujah

!#%#$^@$^# Sleazy Bastard! How dare he.

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Dude, Give it up already..... Your traffic is all comes from cj's and hitbots, and other garbage sources. Sleazy will trade with whomever he want's to. He obviously does not want to trade with your crappy traffic. Get over it and go away. Sleazy may be alot of things (some good, some bad) but he is no dummy, his point about traffic fluctuating as much as yours does is a very valid point. Lastly he is correct again, you are from Russia, and yes there are a few good webmasters there (maybe) but as a whole, there are far more cheaters from there....

SleazyDream

yeah - you just send back the hits you get in.... REAL good for ANY SUCKER you can convince to do that with.. you basically take their traffic - make some money from it, and then send it back to them. the guy that send it to you in the first place pretty much is just getting totally ripped off and the same traffic back.

for a trade to work you need to have a large enough base to be able to send the trade NEW people. other wize what would be the POINT????????? oh right - the point is giving you all my traffic and as such money.... I get it, well you're from Russia so I guess that makes sense to you.


so BASICALLY you wanted to SCAM me, and now you're crying cause I didn't fall for your little trick. Boo ho ho

thanks for the traffic. feel free to send me some more any time you want.

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