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Old 02-17-2003, 09:34 PM   #151
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What a funny thread.
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Old 02-18-2003, 05:50 AM   #152
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it seems, I know how guy with nickname "Sleazy Dream" built his 300k per day.

During many weeks he had the rule on his site - "send me 1k per day during a week, i'm not idiot and let me look on your traffic". Ok, it says it all. I guess a lot of guys sent him traffic... his site got the BASE for trades and for bookmarks.

Business strategy? He is simply thief.
Sorry people for this my silly words. Not "base" of course but good additon..

However he got the traffic and not from me only. He always say "Ok" when somebody want to send him traffic.. hahaha.. yeah..
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Old 02-18-2003, 05:51 AM   #153
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oh my God I'm laughing and laughing at that comment so hard I might just hurt myself.

Yep - obviously all the traffic I have today comes from ripping off people like slav..... yessir - that's where it all came from, no doubt about it. You got me there.

sleazydream = super Villain extrodinaire!!!!!!!!!


fuck you ICQed me every fuckin 10 mins. I chose not to read them. Go read some of the comments in your own fucking thread from some REAL people in the TGP world you retard - I sent traffic to some sites that I WANTED to trade with for over 6 months with NO RETURN. There's one site I actually sent traffic to for over a YEAR before I got a trade. I wasn't bugging them on icq about it every 10 mins either. I do in fact invest 10's of thousands of dollars giving back a nice social gathering to TGP people 2 times a year at internext. Be care ful who you piss off in the industry, I may possibly have one or two friends with a wee bit of influence. I highly doubt you would EVER have the guts to show you face at internext.

I'll bet you cried and cried in the candy store as a kid till mommy finally gave in and bought you a gumdrop. Guess what dumbass, I'm not mommy. The world doesn't OWE you a living. Go out and EARN it.

Trust doesn't occur over 48 hours. It takes a lot longer than that. Thank God I decided not to trade with you, I feel totally confident that it was the right decision now.

Do you want to trade?
Ok.
Please check your stats and link me back.
Ok.
I contacted you yesterday, pls check your stats and link me back.
Ok.


Fuck you. Thief.
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Old 02-18-2003, 05:57 AM   #154
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Jesus, You need to let go of your anger...it's not like SD killed your fucking mother or something.
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Old 02-18-2003, 06:24 AM   #155
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Jesus, You need to let go of your anger...it's not like SD killed your fucking mother or something.
Okay, at least 1000 webmasters saw this topic.. its good..

Actually i did not going to post any topics on GFY, but SleasyDream contacted me by ICQ again and again with these words:


actually - PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE post to GFY
i TRIPLE DARE YOU.
please please please do it. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do. I DARE you. I DOUBLE DARE YOU

Okay, he got it. Also, i was interested what he will say, because he ignored my questions about traffic in ICQ.

Thanks everybody who support me.

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Old 02-18-2003, 06:48 AM   #156
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I trade with PEOPLE, not sites. ........

If I don't know you and your references you mean shit to me and I'm not interested in trading with you.


I havnt' sceen anyone other than annomyous eastern europeans stand up for SLAW in the thread - that says something. Many of my friends have spoken KIND words in my favor. THANK YOU.

I know ALL the references of the people I deal with, SLAW wasn't able to provide me with any references that mattered to me. there's usually a reason for that.

I agree, is your site , is your traffic, is your bussines etc etc.. you have to protect yourself against cheaters , etc etc..

But why the hell don't you waste 5 minutes from your precious time to write all the trade rules on the webmaster page from your site so people can know what to expect if they decide to trade links with you?

Or at least tell Slaw when he asked if you want to trade traffic with him, that you don't want his bussines and you are not interested in dealing with him, simple as that.

You keep talking on the board about professionalism and ethics, but your way to do bussines have nothing in common with professionalism or ethics.

Cheating is cheating don't matter if you are big player or not, period. You LIED him on ICQ Sleazy,
and you deliberately hurted men's bussines.



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Old 02-18-2003, 06:49 AM   #157
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ummm, sorry to say but you're wrong there.

I trade with PEOPLE, not sites. Many people trade based on traffic or productivity alone, I don't. A LOT of larger sites do this too. From the character that Slaw and his thug buddies have shownin this thread it looks like I made the right move in not trading with him. Threatening someone for a trade isn't all that smart in a small TGP world with limited real players in it.

If I don't know you and your references you mean shit to me and I'm not interested in trading with you.

When I started in this game I wanted a trade with Hardcore Junky, he said something to me I'll NEVER forget and I took it as INCREDIBLY VALUEABLE business advise from a VERY WIZE man. He said "We don't have much history" - Time fixed that.


I havnt' sceen anyone other than annomyous eastern europeans stand up for SLAW in the thread - that says something. Many of my friends have spoken KIND words in my favor. THANK YOU.

I know, and have MET in person 90% of all the sites I trade with. I don't really want to trade with ANYONE I havn't met. The 10% I havn't met IN PERSON yet I expect to meet in the next year or two and only havn't done so yet due to their schedules or mine. I know ALL the references of the people I deal with, SLAW wasn't able to provide me with any references that mattered to me. there's usually a reason for that.
well, it was how i understood your trading methodes. and i really gotta say if you don't count of traffic quality, you should at least send slaw some traffic back if you really said you would trade with him. i thought you would not trade with him, cause his traffic is cj traffic.
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Old 02-18-2003, 10:24 AM   #158
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Okay, at least 1000 webmasters saw this topic.. its good..

Actually i did not going to post any topics on GFY, but SleasyDream contacted me by ICQ again and again with these words:


actually - PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE post to GFY
i TRIPLE DARE YOU.
please please please do it. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do. I DARE you. I DOUBLE DARE YOU

Okay, he got it.
You havent been doing your homework Slaw. You need to spend more time reading up on Sleazy's GFY marketing playbook.

4 pages on this thread with 2800 views? You may not realize this, but Sleazy is standing in the endzone, spiking the ball and doing the wave right now.
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Old 02-18-2003, 12:10 PM   #159
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You keep talking on the board about professionalism and ethics, but your way to do bussines have nothing in common with professionalism or ethics.

Cheating is cheating don't matter if you are big player or not, period. You LIED him on ICQ Sleazy,
and you deliberately hurted men's bussines.



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I never lied to him at any point. He assumed I was gona trade with him, I NEVER agreed to do so.
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Old 02-18-2003, 12:26 PM   #160
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Okay, at least 1000 webmasters saw this topic.. its good..

Actually i did not going to post any topics on GFY, but SleasyDream contacted me by ICQ again and again with these words:


actually - PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE post to GFY
i TRIPLE DARE YOU.
please please please do it. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do. I DARE you. I DOUBLE DARE YOU

Okay, he got it. Also, i was interested what he will say, because he ignored my questions about traffic in ICQ.

Thanks everybody who support me.

Spasibo Tolik, Miguel, Lust and other guys
hahahahahahaha - too bad those that supported you are mostly your own aliases!!!!!!!!!!!!!! not one of them had the guts to post their own website. Isn't that odd - real coragious alias you got there.

I dared you to post to GFY cause I didn't like being threatened by you - the old 'trade with me or I'll expose you on GFY scam' doesn't work with me...... sorry to burst your bubble there. Maybe if you actually left Russia once in a while and met some real webmasters at Internext you'd have a clue.
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Old 02-18-2003, 12:28 PM   #161
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You havent been doing your homework Slaw. You need to spend more time reading up on Sleazy's GFY marketing playbook.

4 pages on this thread with 2800 views? You may not realize this, but Sleazy is standing in the endzone, spiking the ball and doing the wave right now.

ssssh...dont give the kitchen away!
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Old 02-18-2003, 12:34 PM   #162
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We've known Sleazy for a while and he's a stand up guy..
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Old 02-18-2003, 01:20 PM   #163
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I never lied to him at any point. He assumed I was gona trade with him, I NEVER agreed to do so.
you did dupe the guy though... you say you took down your rules because you werent accepting any new trades yet you let this guy believe that he had a chance to trade with you... thats shady... you should have told him that you werent taking trades... if i was him i would be pissed too... but then again i would send traffic to someone for days without them sending me any
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Wow, this has gotten so crazy.
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Old 02-18-2003, 02:21 PM   #165
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you did dupe the guy though... you say you took down your rules because you werent accepting any new trades yet you let this guy believe that he had a chance to trade with you... thats shady... you should have told him that you werent taking trades... if i was him i would be pissed too... but then again i would send traffic to someone for days without them sending me any
fuck you are an IDIOT - he ABSOLUTLY DID have a chance to trade with me. I made up my mind over the 2 days that I didn't want to trade with him cause he ICQed me every 10 mins. it bugged the living shit outa me. I gave him a FAIR CHANCE like I do with everyone else. He fucked it up.

you're a complete fucking IDIOT and I'd LOVE to know what websites you run making a FALSE and LIABLE statement against me like that. I REALLY doubt you have the guts to post your URL now. Please, lets know who you are dipshit. Post your TGP URL


in fact I was EXTRA NICE to this DIPSHIT when he asked for a trade, I told him a couple of days, I tell most people a couple of weeks or so.

Your statement REALLY pissed me off. I WON'T forget you and your piddly little TGP http://www.rex-tgp.com
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Old 02-18-2003, 02:24 PM   #166
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I love Sleazy Dream..He is a great guy.
He showed me the pics of his shack in the middle of the Arctic Tundra and everything..
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Old 02-18-2003, 02:31 PM   #167
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This thread has been going on for too long, you guys are basicly repeating the same shit. Do you need another 5 page to figure that out?
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Old 02-18-2003, 02:36 PM   #168
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This thread has been going on for too long, you guys are basicly repeating the same shit. Do you need another 5 page to figure that out?




I can sum it up quickly...




Sleazydream has rules, learn them, love them or leave them, but please do not cry about them for longer than a few days.
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Old 02-18-2003, 02:41 PM   #169
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I love Sleazy Dream..He is a great guy.
He showed me the pics of his shack in the middle of the Arctic Tundra and everything..
Can't wait to see you again in Toronto Becky!

I bought my plane ticket today.
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Old 02-18-2003, 02:49 PM   #170
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hahahahahahaha - too bad those that supported you are mostly your own aliases!!!!!!!!!!!!!! not one of them had the guts to post their own website.
Am I alias too???
I post if you want...
sexy-photos.net hqseek.com sexy-beauties.com amazing-babes.com and more...

I didn't name you or other people here with hard swearwords...
I know Slaw about 3 years and my history with Slaw is very long... and I wanted to say he is honest webmaster who I believe! For me is absolutelly unacceptable that Slaw is cheater etc...

Yes, maybe the name of this thread "SleazyDream.com is cheater" originated from of big anger from Slaw...

I want only to know if this is true:


Please check your stats and link me back.
Ok.
I contacted you yesterday, pls check your stats and link me back.
Ok.


If you really told him OK for "...and link me back" so Slaw expected you link him back... but nothing...

sorry for my English
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Old 02-18-2003, 02:53 PM   #171
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Can't wait to see you again in Toronto Becky!

I bought my plane ticket today.

Yep it is gonna be a great time
I am glad they are finally having a gathering in Toronto
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here's the icq log of when he first contacted me.

v- hello

sd - hi

v - 50-100K trade. I look for permanent trade

sd- start sending and then I'll judge your traffic and see if I want to trade with you

v- how long till you'll look?

sd - a couple of days

v - how much to send?

sd - you said 50-100K a day



I NEVER ONCE said I'd send anything back, just that I'd judge the traffic to see IF i wanted to trade with him.
That doesn't say OK miguel... it appears that Slaw is paraphrasing in his post.
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Am I alias too???
I post if you want...
sexy-photos.net hqseek.com sexy-beauties.com amazing-babes.com and more...

I didn't name you or other people here with hard swearwords...
I know Slaw about 3 years and my history with Slaw is very long... and I wanted to say he is honest webmaster who I believe! For me is absolutelly unacceptable that Slaw is cheater etc...

Yes, maybe the name of this thread "SleazyDream.com is cheater" originated from of big anger from Slaw...

I want only to know if this is true:


Please check your stats and link me back.
Ok.
I contacted you yesterday, pls check your stats and link me back.
Ok.


If you really told him OK for "...and link me back" so Slaw expected you link him back... but nothing...

sorry for my English
i agreed to check my stats. they stats he sent me sucked. that's what i said OK to. I NEVER AT ANY POINT said I would send him traffic back. He sent me like 50 icqs a day and I got real sick of dealing with them so I igonored them.

slaw DEMANDED a trade back, anyone who acts like with me that gets BURNED. Pure and simple. believe me, he's seriously hurt many of his most productive trades already for acting like this, and you will too if you continue to be an idiot. I can guarentee that.
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fuck you are an IDIOT - he ABSOLUTLY DID have a chance to trade with me. I made up my mind over the 2 days that I didn't want to trade with him cause he ICQed me every 10 mins. it bugged the living shit outa me. I gave him a FAIR CHANCE like I do with everyone else. He fucked it up.

you're a complete fucking IDIOT and I'd LOVE to know what websites you run making a FALSE and LIABLE statement against me like that. I REALLY doubt you have the guts to post your URL now. Please, lets know who you are dipshit. Post your TGP URL


in fact I was EXTRA NICE to this DIPSHIT when he asked for a trade, I told him a couple of days, I tell most people a couple of weeks or so.

Your statement REALLY pissed me off. I WON'T forget you and your piddly little TGP http://www.rex-tgp.com
thats not when you said you took down your rules... that was just my impressionwhat it sounded like ... if it was incorrect or not that was how i interpreted it and im probably not alone... i wasnt taking a dig at you personally, just voicing my opinion... i think you are over reacting... fyi... this is not an appology or kissing up to you because you are threatening me... i dont care about your threats... if you knew me you would know that i speak my mind and im actually a good guy

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thats not when you said you took down your rules... that was just my impressionwhat it sounded like ... if it was incorrect or not that was how i interpreted it and im probably not alone... i wasnt taking a dig at you personally, just voicing my opinion... i think you are over reacting... fyi... this is not an appology or kissing up to you because you are threatening me... i dont care about your threats... if you knew me you would know that i speak my mind and im actually a good guy
you're not a good guy if you're defending that russian skumbag.
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i wasnt defending him... i was making an observation... i also said i didnt understand why he kept sending traffic if he wasnt getting results... i wouldnt call that defending him
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I made up my mind over the 2 days that I didn't want to trade with him cause he ICQed me every 10 mins. it bugged the living shit outa me.

Why you lie in almost every your post? Please stop it...

12.02.2003:
dialog from 15:06 to 15:59

13.02.2003:
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14.02.2003:
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15.02.2003:
11 phrases i sent from 6.54 to 16:11 (i really in bad mood, because ignored, one of my messages for example: say NO and i'll stop sending traffic.... - ignored)

17.02.2003:
2 messages from me in 9:27 and in 9:32 and his reply in 9:32 ("pls do it")

actually thats all..

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hahahahahahaha - too bad those that supported you are mostly your own aliases!!!!!!!!!!!!!! not one of them had the guts to post their own website. Isn't that odd - real coragious alias you got there.

I dared you to post to GFY cause I didn't like being threatened by you - the old 'trade with me or I'll expose you on GFY scam' doesn't work with me...... sorry to burst your bubble there. Maybe if you actually left Russia once in a while and met some real webmasters at Internext you'd have a clue.

I'm the one only - Slaw. Real name Viacheslav.

Better visit Russia... so many nice people...
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ummm, sorry to say but you're wrong there.

I trade with PEOPLE, not sites. Many people trade based on traffic or productivity alone, I don't. A LOT of larger sites do this too. From the character that Slaw and his thug buddies have shownin this thread it looks like I made the right move in not trading with him. Threatening someone for a trade isn't all that smart in a small TGP world with limited real players in it.

If I don't know you and your references you mean shit to me and I'm not interested in trading with you.

When I started in this game I wanted a trade with Hardcore Junky, he said something to me I'll NEVER forget and I took it as INCREDIBLY VALUEABLE business advise from a VERY WIZE man. He said "We don't have much history" - Time fixed that.


I havnt' sceen anyone other than annomyous eastern europeans stand up for SLAW in the thread - that says something. Many of my friends have spoken KIND words in my favor. THANK YOU.

I know, and have MET in person 90% of all the sites I trade with. I don't really want to trade with ANYONE I havn't met. The 10% I havn't met IN PERSON yet I expect to meet in the next year or two and only havn't done so yet due to their schedules or mine. I know ALL the references of the people I deal with, SLAW wasn't able to provide me with any references that mattered to me. there's usually a reason for that.


But all the this guya "slaw" wanted was an answer, u could have just said yes, no, your traffic sucks, simple..........
if u dont trade with people u dont know in person
why let "slaw" send you traffic,
u could have just said, thanks but no thanks ;)
the whole arguemant i'm seeing here is misunderstanding
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Old 02-18-2003, 07:22 PM   #181
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sleazy you should be ashamed of yourself, You should trust everyone, you need to give away your traffic, also give away your exclusive content, your hot tub etc...


no on a real note, if anyone has over 5k worth of traffic that isn't A, hit bot, B, outside the use hit me up, I will trade with you. I have stats to back up how much traffic a few of my sites have.


Now back to sleazy, you need to goto church in the morning say 2 hail marys
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Old 03-22-2003, 09:02 AM   #182
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Ok Sleazy,
I think you may have been right after all damn! I've been watching his traffic closely since this post here. Comparing my server and scripts stats I believe while he's actually sending some real traffic thru hard links he's also spoofing thank god my trade with him wasn't too big! I'm such a fool.. but you know it takes a big guy to admit he's little
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Old 03-22-2003, 09:07 AM   #183
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Old 03-22-2003, 10:14 AM   #184
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Ok Sleazy,
I think you may have been right after all damn! I've been watching his traffic closely since this post here. Comparing my server and scripts stats I believe while he's actually sending some real traffic thru hard links he's also spoofing thank god my trade with him wasn't too big! I'm such a fool.. but you know it takes a big guy to admit he's little
if it smells like a skunk my nose usually isn't wrong.........
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Old 04-11-2003, 02:14 AM   #185
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Ok Sleazy,
I think you may have been right after all damn! I've been watching his traffic closely since this post here. Comparing my server and scripts stats I believe while he's actually sending some real traffic thru hard links he's also spoofing thank god my trade with him wasn't too big! I'm such a fool.. but you know it takes a big guy to admit he's little

Seven, in Internet are NOT too much high traffic sites, you are crazy man if you killed the trade without a reason, even if it was currently small trade.... or you are just forum visitor and is not serious webmaster.....

Many webmasters can say - my traffic and productivity is ok, and i have many fine search engeen traffic, I'm in yahoo... etc........
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Old 04-11-2003, 03:44 AM   #186
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Sleazydream is in the top ten of sextracker. All those sites in the top ten took years to develop their traffic flow and bookmarkers. Everyone should expect them to be extremely picky about who they trade traffic with.

People complain about how hard it is to trade traffic with sleazy(they'll send for a long ass time and dont get shit back), but thats what I'd expect from his site. Why should sleazy or those other top 10 sites care about your trade? They've been in the top 10 for years without you and will most likely continue to stay in the top 10.

So unless your traffic is outstanding, dont even expect them to respond.
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Old 04-11-2003, 03:56 AM   #187
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Old 04-11-2003, 04:19 AM   #188
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Seven, in Internet are NOT too much high traffic sites, you are crazy man if you killed the trade without a reason, even if it was currently small trade.... or you are just forum visitor and is not serious webmaster.....

Many webmasters can say - my traffic and productivity is ok, and i have many fine search engeen traffic, I'm in yahoo... etc........
shut up skunk bitch. don't you realise that this board doesn't want to hear your bullshit stories about you and your pussy ass commies.
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Old 04-11-2003, 05:07 AM   #189
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What a funny thread.

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Damn funny . Go on!
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Old 04-11-2003, 08:15 AM   #191
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Sleazydream is in the top ten of sextracker. All those sites in the top ten took years to develop their traffic flow and bookmarkers. Everyone should expect them to be extremely picky about who they trade traffic with.

People complain about how hard it is to trade traffic with sleazy(they'll send for a long ass time and dont get shit back), but thats what I'd expect from his site. Why should sleazy or those other top 10 sites care about your trade? They've been in the top 10 for years without you and will most likely continue to stay in the top 10.

So unless your traffic is outstanding, dont even expect them to respond.
I guess Sleazy bought some traffic, not far a long time ago he was stable on 300k approx.......
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