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GFED · 11-04-2012, 12:16 AM

to a complete noob that hasn't done any programming since making BASIC text adventures on the C64 when I was like 7 years old... I'm interested in making web applications (simple utils, admin, frontend, cms) capable of communicating with MySQL. I've taken a look at PHP and JAVA which are greek to me... VisualBASIC and C++ seem to be a lot easier to understand but I'm not sure of the capabilities and limitations of each.

Thanks.

tical · 11-04-2012, 12:22 AM

php is exactly what you want to learn

it's not very difficult to begin using. buy / locate a book on php programming, actually READ through the first 4 or 5 chapters and DO the example / test projects and you'll likely learn enough to start fiddling around with some direction (and referencing the php book or the web for more specific issues)

Chosen · 11-04-2012, 12:25 AM

EddyTheDog · 11-04-2012, 12:25 AM

I would say stick with PHP as well.

Lots of resources available on the net - One tip, when you 'borrow' snippets of code you find on the net take the time to work out how they work. Don't just cut and paste them.

BIGTYMER · 11-04-2012, 12:43 AM

php. Super easy.

CYF · 11-04-2012, 12:49 AM

I'd recommend php as well

DTK · 11-04-2012, 12:52 AM

Your options are php and asp/asp.net. Php is mostly used on *nix operating systems, asp/asp.net is windows based. Asp pages are written in vbsript, asp.net pages are written in visual basic.net or c#.

jargon aside, php, vbsript, and visual basic are are all very powerful and easy to learn . I've made a good portion of my living doing windows-based coding for 15 years, but I'm not religious about this stuff. PHP is great too.

So for your needs, I think it comes down to which platform you feel most comfortable with. Either way, you'll be able to put together basic Web apps in no time.

freecartoonporn · 11-04-2012, 12:58 AM

php only

GFED · 11-04-2012, 01:05 AM

Thank you all for the fast replies... it looks like PHP wins the vote.

d-null · 11-04-2012, 01:25 AM

Emil · 11-04-2012, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by GFED

Thank you all for the fast replies... it looks like PHP wins the vote.

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Klen · 11-04-2012, 05:47 AM

PHP plus linux bash and c.Bash and c are needed in cases when PHP something cant do.Using linux bash will limit your script to linux/unix enviroment only but almost nobody uses windows servers these days anyway.

woj · 11-04-2012, 06:03 AM

all the cool kids use ASM

k0nr4d · 11-04-2012, 06:17 AM

woj · 11-04-2012, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d

pssh, I have the watercooled model

BIGTYMER · 11-04-2012, 06:19 AM

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adult-help · 11-04-2012, 06:52 AM

php and mysql is all you need. if you cant learn this then programing is not for you..

helterskelter808 · 11-04-2012, 07:50 AM

People say PHP because it's all they know. It's popular because it's 'easy', not necessarily because it's the best or most appropriate.

If you want to make web applications, you should use a framework. Popular ones for PHP are CakePHP and Codeigniter, but people seem to be going for Laravel now. Django and Rails are the most popular Python and Ruby frameworks, respectively.

I'd recommend you check out Django, Rails and Laravel and see which one you're most comfortable with.

Barry-xlovecam · 11-04-2012, 08:03 AM

If you understand and have a working knowledge of C++ and you will be doing you own code maintenance -- use C++ its the fastest language around today.

The problem with C++ is the availability of good programmers and existing scripts to work with.

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This is a platform worth watching, maybe learning -- it recognizes the issues and offers a possible solution.

shake · 11-04-2012, 08:37 AM

Python might be a good second choice as well, a little bit more complicated but more powerful as well.

johnnyloadproductions · 11-04-2012, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d

Even with high level languages, this is what it ultimately ends up being.

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DTK Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The 510 Posts: 4,545	Your options are php and asp/asp.net. Php is mostly used on *nix operating systems, asp/asp.net is windows based. Asp pages are written in vbsript, asp.net pages are written in visual basic.net or c#. jargon aside, php, vbsript, and visual basic are are all very powerful and easy to learn . I've made a good portion of my living doing windows-based coding for 15 years, but I'm not religious about this stuff. PHP is great too. So for your needs, I think it comes down to which platform you feel most comfortable with. Either way, you'll be able to put together basic Web apps in no time. __________________ Arguing whether the Democratic or Republican party is better is like debating which steaming pile of shit is slightly less stinky.

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Klen Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Little Vienna Posts: 32,235	PHP plus linux bash and c.Bash and c are needed in cases when PHP something cant do.Using linux bash will limit your script to linux/unix enviroment only but almost nobody uses windows servers these days anyway.

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helterskelter808 So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 3,405	People say PHP because it's all they know. It's popular because it's 'easy', not necessarily because it's the best or most appropriate. If you want to make web applications, you should use a framework. Popular ones for PHP are CakePHP and Codeigniter, but people seem to be going for Laravel now. Django and Rails are the most popular Python and Ruby frameworks, respectively. I'd recommend you check out Django, Rails and Laravel and see which one you're most comfortable with.

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