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  • potter
    Confirmed User
    • Dec 2004
    • 6559

    #16
    I like how you tried to argue the two possibilities I brought up (like a random person on GFY actually has answers to them anyway). Listen, Within five seconds of reading your comment I came up with two logical reasons. Therefore your point is invalid. You cannot say "there's no logical reason to reduce polling days" if someone who has no skin in the argument can immediately start thinking up logical reasons. The end.

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    • kane
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Aug 2001
      • 20684

      #17
      Originally posted by potter
      I like how you tried to argue the two possibilities I brought up (like a random person on GFY actually has answers to them anyway). Listen, Within five seconds of reading your comment I came up with two logical reasons. Therefore your point is invalid. You cannot say "there's no logical reason to reduce polling days" if someone who has no skin in the argument can immediately start thinking up logical reasons. The end.
      What makes your points any more valid than mine?

      You suggested that they shortened the dates due to either Hurricane Sandy or because of cost. I pointed out how the cost would likely be minimal and may end up saving them costs and headaches down the road as the masses try to vote on election and I pointed out that the hurricane was not really a factor especially considering that the legislature reduced the number of early voting days last year.

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      • potter
        Confirmed User
        • Dec 2004
        • 6559

        #18
        omg :facepalm:

        I'll try explaining this real slowly. I did not make any points. I did not suggest they shortened dates for any reason. All I did was bring up *possible* explanations that *could* exist -- which in turn invalidates your point.

        Here; So you said
        There is no logical reason to reduce the number of early voting days other than to supress the voter turnout.
        So you're suggesting that there is only one logical reason, that no other logical reasons exist. Right? Still following?

        Now, what I did was immediately think of two logical reasons, and mentioned them. I didn't say those were the reasons, I didn't claim those were the reasons, I didn't argue those were the reasons. It doesn't matter if those are or aren't the reasons, it simply matters I was even able to present them as possibilities.

        Because I was able to immediately think of a couple of logical reasons. That means your statement that "no other logical reasons could exist" is false. Other logical reasons could exist, it's simply that you cannot think of any. But just because you cannot think of any, doesn't mean they don't exist. Got it? You saying that "no other logical reasons could exist" is wrong.

        Ok, I hope you got it this time. ;)

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        • L-Pink
          working on my tan
          • Mar 2005
          • 39151

          #19
          epitome; ….. How does a guy indicted for the largest medicare fraud ever get elected governor of Florida of all states?

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          • kane
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Aug 2001
            • 20684

            #20
            Originally posted by potter
            omg :facepalm:

            I'll try explaining this real slowly. I did not make any points. I did not suggest they shortened dates for any reason. All I did was bring up *possible* explanations that *could* exist -- which in turn invalidates your point.

            Here; So you said

            So you're suggesting that there is only one logical reason, that no other logical reasons exist. Right? Still following?

            Now, what I did was immediately think of two logical reasons, and mentioned them. I didn't say those were the reasons, I didn't claim those were the reasons, I didn't argue those were the reasons. It doesn't matter if those are or aren't the reasons, it simply matters I was even able to present them as possibilities.

            Because I was able to immediately think of a couple of logical reasons. That means your statement that "no other logical reasons could exist" is false. Other logical reasons could exist, it's simply that you cannot think of any. But just because you cannot think of any, doesn't mean they don't exist. Got it? You saying that "no other logical reasons could exist" is wrong.

            Ok, I hope you got it this time. ;)
            And I pointed out that there is no logic to your reasons so, hence, I have still yet to see a logical reason why they would shorten the early voting period.

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            • epitome
              So Fucking Lame
              • Jun 2009
              • 12156

              #21
              Originally posted by L-Pink
              epitome; ?.. How does a guy indicted for the largest medicare fraud ever get elected governor of Florida of all states?
              I am still trying to figure that out. Being a relatively new resident maybe you can answer this for me... was that well known and publicized and people STILL voted him in?

              Also, how many chief of staff appointees has he been through now? That MacNamara was slimy.

              My favorite was seeing an article that because of Sandy Citizens may raise their premiums. REALLY? Citizens is for the state by the state. Sandy didn't do shit to the state... there were worse storms this year. Please explain to me how rates have to be raised when the damage was done at the top half of the country?

              I hope it never becomes as goes Florida so goes the nation or we are fucked!

              Seems like the Tampa and Miami papers like to keep him as accountable as possible. Always one of those two cities uncovering shit on him.

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              • kane
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Aug 2001
                • 20684

                #22
                Originally posted by L-Pink
                epitome; ?.. How does a guy indicted for the largest medicare fraud ever get elected governor of Florida of all states?
                There are many people who will vote for a candidate just because of party affiliation and don't care about anything else.

                In 2008 in Alaska Ted Stevens had been convicted of seven counts of fraud and still nearly won his election.

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                • potter
                  Confirmed User
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 6559

                  #23
                  You did not point out that there was no logic, you pointed out why you thought they weren't the actual reasons.

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                  • kane
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Aug 2001
                    • 20684

                    #24
                    Originally posted by potter
                    You did not point out that there was no logic, you pointed out why you thought they weren't the actual reasons.
                    I guess we will just have to agree to disagree.

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                    • astronaut x
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • May 2011
                      • 4844

                      #25
                      Originally posted by sperbonzo
                      For those claiming there is a movement to suppress voting rights in Florida, consider this:

                      In Broward county, there were 17 polling locations open 12 hours per day for 7 days for early voting.

                      Tomorrow, there will be 729 polling locations open for 12 hours.

                      Cramming 729 into 17 is going to create enormous lines.

                      No one is suppressing votes. Early voting is meant to be a convenience for voters. It allows the voter to vote outside of their district during the 84 hours of open voting. Tomorrow, each voter will have 12 hours to vote. So long as they are on line by 7:00 pm each voter will vote.

                      There is no suppression. Stop creating a situation when none exists.



                      Such silly nonsense...... Really.....





                      .




                      .

                      I have been volunteering at polling stations....

                      I have never seen lines like these. You are spreading lies.

                      Hello

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                      • astronaut x
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • May 2011
                        • 4844

                        #26
                        Originally posted by potter
                        There are plenty of logical reasons. How about cost, perhaps FL is cutting costs? Was it around hurricane sandy passing by?

                        Those are just two off the top of my head real quick immediately after reading this thread / your comment.

                        I'm not arguing either side btw, simply pointing out the flaw in your statement there.
                        Costs? No.

                        14 to 8..... has created huge lines.

                        Besides FL should be able to afford it. They saved all that money on the choo choos, and all that money on drug addicted welfare recipients. Supposedly.

                        Its called voter suppression.
                        Hello

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                        • astronaut x
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • May 2011
                          • 4844

                          #27
                          Originally posted by potter
                          I like how you tried to argue the two possibilities I brought up (like a random person on GFY actually has answers to them anyway). Listen, Within five seconds of reading your comment I came up with two logical reasons. Therefore your point is invalid. You cannot say "there's no logical reason to reduce polling days" if someone who has no skin in the argument can immediately start thinking up logical reasons. The end.
                          There has never been one complaint from anyone on either side about costs.

                          I have skin in the argument. I volunteer at polling stations. Its not costs.

                          Its voter suppression.

                          Ohio has done the same thing. States that are deemed all ready decided haven't touched voting days.

                          It's so fucking obvious.
                          Hello

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                          • astronaut x
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • May 2011
                            • 4844

                            #28
                            Originally posted by potter
                            omg :facepalm:

                            I'll try explaining this real slowly. I did not make any points. I did not suggest they shortened dates for any reason. All I did was bring up *possible* explanations that *could* exist -- which in turn invalidates your point.

                            Here; So you said

                            So you're suggesting that there is only one logical reason, that no other logical reasons exist. Right? Still following?

                            Now, what I did was immediately think of two logical reasons, and mentioned them. I didn't say those were the reasons, I didn't claim those were the reasons, I didn't argue those were the reasons. It doesn't matter if those are or aren't the reasons, it simply matters I was even able to present them as possibilities.

                            Because I was able to immediately think of a couple of logical reasons. That means your statement that "no other logical reasons could exist" is false. Other logical reasons could exist, it's simply that you cannot think of any. But just because you cannot think of any, doesn't mean they don't exist. Got it? You saying that "no other logical reasons could exist" is wrong.

                            Ok, I hope you got it this time. ;)
                            What dog do you have in this fight? You live in Denver, you know nothing about Florida and whats been going here.

                            Just shut the fuck up.
                            Hello

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                            • astronaut x
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • May 2011
                              • 4844

                              #29
                              Originally posted by epitome
                              I am still trying to figure that out. Being a relatively new resident maybe you can answer this for me... was that well known and publicized and people STILL voted him in?

                              Also, how many chief of staff appointees has he been through now? That MacNamara was slimy.

                              My favorite was seeing an article that because of Sandy Citizens may raise their premiums. REALLY? Citizens is for the state by the state. Sandy didn't do shit to the state... there were worse storms this year. Please explain to me how rates have to be raised when the damage was done at the top half of the country?

                              I hope it never becomes as goes Florida so goes the nation or we are fucked!

                              Seems like the Tampa and Miami papers like to keep him as accountable as possible. Always one of those two cities uncovering shit on him.
                              Most republican voters are brainwashed. That is all over the country. Just look at the electoral map. The poorest, most unemployed, most uneducated states are red.

                              Rick Scott bought his election, and only won by 1%.

                              rick-scott-hired-boletera's
                              http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...m_hp_ref=miami
                              Hello

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                              • potter
                                Confirmed User
                                • Dec 2004
                                • 6559

                                #30
                                lol. I've always wondered why people have such a hard time separating someone pointing out a flaw in their statement with arguing the overall subject. If someone makes a case for one side of an argument using three points, and you simply point out that one of those points are wrong. They will immediately get defensive about their stance, and then either defend the overall point or attack you for being on the opposing side (when you never were).

                                Originally posted by astronaut x
                                Costs? No.

                                14 to 8..... has created huge lines.

                                Besides FL should be able to afford it. They saved all that money on the choo choos, and all that money on drug addicted welfare recipients. Supposedly.

                                Its called voter suppression.
                                I never said it was cost. Why do you feel the need to argue the point of cost?

                                Originally posted by astronaut x
                                There has never been one complaint from anyone on either side about costs.

                                I have skin in the argument. I volunteer at polling stations. Its not costs.

                                Its voter suppression.

                                Ohio has done the same thing. States that are deemed all ready decided haven't touched voting days.

                                It's so fucking obvious.
                                lol.. I never said it wasn't voter suppression.

                                Originally posted by astronaut x
                                What dog do you have in this fight? You live in Denver, you know nothing about Florida and whats been going here.

                                Just shut the fuck up.
                                So angry, and for no reason. lol.

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