I hate to be in the position of defending someone i'd never vote for, but come on...he was neck deep in the economy from the day he took office. But I do think that spending so much time and political capital on health care reform (at that particular time) was a blunder.

However, even if the economy had been the total focus, it was going to be extremely difficult to get much of anything done. Another line of BS from the right-wing is that the Dems had a filibuster-proof Senate majority for those first 2 years. The reality is that they had a Senate super-majority for 72 days. source source source. That's not a lot of time to get a bunch of major economic shit done when the opposition's stated #1 goal was to make him a 1 term president.

Now that i've sort of defended this guy, i think i need to take a shower and gargle with some drano :1orglaugh

He certainly had enough tricks up his sleeve to pass Obama Care with NO votes from the Republicans. :(
I wonder how he could do that? It's because the Dems controlled everything.

Too bad he didn't use that to work on the economy. Doesn't seem like the big bad Republican filibuster was able to stop health care from passing now does it?

I personally think Romney will run rings around Obama with the economy. But IF he sucks up to the religious right...then there would be trouble.

I"m so glad I voted for Johnson. Obama is incompetent on fiscal matters, and Romney is unacceptable on social issues. And neither man will let up the reigns on the govt. having it's boot on the neck of personal freedom. :(

Yes they were. GM and Chrysler were both on the verge of total collapse. Seriously, look it up.

Yes I am. Chap 7 is for businesses too http://www.business-bankruptcy.com/b...-7-bankruptcy/

But Chapter 7 bankruptcy is not a "Managed Bankruptcy" to restructure.

That's my point.

Romney NEVER said he wanted that. He always was going for a managed bankruptcy to restructure debt and keep the companies going...which is what Obama did.

Also...only the UNION workers got their pensions out of Obama's deal. 30,000 non-union workers saw their pensions go BUST.

Gee, I wonder why Obama would do that? He shit on 30,000 people's lives to appease his union voting block. Disgusting.

I'm glad you voted for Johnson too. I've been voting libertarian for 20 years, so welcome aboard the good ship "Sanity" :thumbsup

More importantly than this guy Obamney or that guy Rombama, the Democratic and Republican parties are both corrupt to their very cores. They have been bi-partisanly selling this country to the highest bidder for 30+ years.

IMO, anyone voting dem or rep is really voting to continue a tradition of fucking over the country to the benefit of huge money interests. Interests that don't give a flying fuck about the overall welfare of this country.

I'm hoping that Johnson will get 5% so that in the next election he can get matching funds and full ballot access (that Reps and Dems have set up so that only THEY can have)

THEN maybe the American people can finally see that they have another choice that is viable

Shit, you know they'll just change the rules again to make it even tougher. Just like they did after Perot showed so well.

It would have been great to see Johnson in the debates. He would have eaten both their lunches for them.

getting right around that 5% though, at least in the polls. It'll be interesting to see how the actual results turn out though...last time, we only pulled 0.5% of the vote.

http://newmexico.watchdog.org/16261/...ntial-debates/
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...ian-candidate/
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/...y-win-in-2012/

wrong :
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2009/roll887.xml

dude, you're quibbling over 1 vote......

Not the point ... just correcting another falsehood ... You let a bit pass, then it is another false truth a little bigger ... and bigger...

As for ONE vote, each vote counts ... remember 2000 ... and these were not congress votes ..

I hear you, but to steal a great movie line: "You're picking gnat shit out of pepper"

No, he's missing the whole argument about the filibuster proof SENATE majority.

We weren't even talking about The House.

Canadians...if they could vote Obama would be the King! :1orglaugh