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Old 11-01-2012, 06:05 AM   #1
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Kim Dotcom reveals Mega to replace Megaupload file-sharing site

Kim Dotcom has announced plans for Mega, a service to replace his shut down file-sharing website Megaupload.

Mega is expected to use encryption methods which will mean only users will know what they are uploading.

It will be decided in March whether Mr Dotcom should be extradited from New Zealand to the US to face charges relating to copyright theft.

The 38-year-old said he would launch Mega on 20 January 2013 - a year to the day since his arrest.

By keeping details of files uploaded on Mega secret from the site's administrators, Mr Dotcom said he believed this would mean the site was not in violation of US laws.

"The new Mega will not be threatened by US prosecutors," he said.

"The new Mega avoids any dealings with US hosters, US domains and US backbone providers and has changed the way it operates to avoid another takedown."

'LOL!!!'

Announcing the new site on Twitter, Mr Dotcom said the holding page - hosted at Me.ga - was already getting "millions" of hits.

He said many of the visits were from US authorities themselves, tweeting: "All FBI agents pressing reload hahaha... We see their IP addresses. LOL!!!"

Exact details of the encryption methods on the upcoming site have not been released. However, it appears to look to shift responsibility for unlawful content onto the users, rather than the site's owners.

"In the past, securely storing and transferring confidential information required the installation of dedicated software," a message on Mega's holding page said.

"The new Mega encrypts and decrypts your data transparently in your browser, on the fly. You hold the keys to what you store in the cloud, not us."

In an interview with Reuters, Mr Dotcom suggested that content owners might even get direct access to users' uploaded files "if they agree not to make us responsible for actions of users".

The site's servers will not be hosted in the US, Mr Dotcom added. A page on the Mega site makes a plea to encourage more investors for the service.

"We have raised sufficient funds to cover the launch," the message reads, "but we would like to provide Mega free of charge for as long as possible."

Mr Dotcom had previously released details of a sister service, Megabox, which will offer music-related downloads.

Unlawful raid

Mr Dotcom - formerly Kim Schmitz - currently resides in his New Zealand mansion which was raided by local authorities at the start of this year.

The raid and seizure of assets was later deemed illegal by a New Zealand court.

It was also later ruled that intelligence agencies had illegally spied on Mr Dotcom - an incident which drew an apology from New Zealand Prime Minister John Key.

"We failed to provide that appropriate protection for him," he said.

"It is the GCSB's [Government Communications Security Bureau] responsibility to act within the law, and it is hugely disappointing that in this case its actions fell outside the law."

If extradited and convicted in the US, Mr Dotcom faces up to 20 years in prison.

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site not loading for me., looks like his shared hosting exceeding limits., lol
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The thing that amazes me is that he actually does not seem to understand WHY he broke the law...
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So what he's saying is his old site WAS indeed in violation of US laws?
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So what he's saying is his old site WAS indeed in violation of US laws?
Yep and now he plans to get around them any way he can.

My favorite part is that he wont have a domain that has anything to do with the US.. Sadly the DNS routers are in the US.
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site doesent even work correctly in Firefox lol

damm if you type "Mega" in google its the first result already.. kim.com/mega/
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What does Gabon have to do with it?
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One of the more unique wrinkles of the new service may come from Mega’s decision not to deploy so-called de-duplication on its servers, meaning that if a user decides to upload the same copyright-infringing file 100 times, it would result in 100 different files and 100 distinct decryption keys. Removing them would require 100 takedown notices of the type typically sent by rights holders like movie studios and record companies.

what a dick

Now you watch all the other file locker sites do the same thing

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/201...gaupload-mega/

If this gets going its going to be a nightmare to send DMCA's
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Wasn't he talking about this and working on it before they grabbed him?
Filesharing site that in some way pays the content owners..
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One of the more unique wrinkles of the new service may come from Mega?s decision not to deploy so-called de-duplication on its servers, meaning that if a user decides to upload the same copyright-infringing file 100 times, it would result in 100 different files and 100 distinct decryption keys. Removing them would require 100 takedown notices of the type typically sent by rights holders like movie studios and record companies.

what a dick

Now you watch all the other file locker sites do the same thing

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/201...gaupload-mega/

If this gets going its going to be a nightmare to send DMCA's
Agree that its a dick move..
Even more so if they were to GEO the files and change the ID based on what server in the cloud it was on.

1 file then could result in 100+ take downs and somewhat a mega pain in the ass to find every link.
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Wasn't he talking about this and working on it before they grabbed him?
Filesharing site that in some way pays the content owners..
And if the content owners got even a nickel it would be on HIS terms not their terms. Fuck him and fuck that.
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Agree that its a dick move..
Even more so if they were to GEO the files and change the ID based on what server in the cloud it was on.

1 file then could result in 100+ take downs and somewhat a mega pain in the ass to find every link.
Before you could even view the file you would need a key because it will be encrypted which in itself would be a pain to try and get a hold off

If the smaller filelockers start to follow suit this is gonna be one mega fuck up for copyright holders trying to send DMCA's

These fuckers always seem to be one step ahead of the law
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One of the more unique wrinkles of the new service may come from Mega?s decision not to deploy so-called de-duplication on its servers, meaning that if a user decides to upload the same copyright-infringing file 100 times, it would result in 100 different files and 100 distinct decryption keys. Removing them would require 100 takedown notices of the type typically sent by rights holders like movie studios and record companies.
That would also require 100 times more of the storage space.
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That would also require 100 times more of the storage space.
They are not going to be on one server. The plan is to have servers all over the world. So space is not going to bother them

What is worrying is that one person could upload the same file to 50 servers all over the wrold encrypted and needing a key and how are you going to know what the file is unless the uploader shares it with you.

This is where you need somebody on the inside of the file sharing community

http://kim.com/mega/#/hosting
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1 file then could result in 100+ take downs and somewhat a mega pain in the ass to find every link.
That would result in you sending 100 DMCAs instead of one to his billing company, or to VISA/MC. Fat fag will get his thieving thing terminated faster than you can press your "send" button. And then he's free to offer to his surfers some other popular payment options like the one below...

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They are not going to be on one server. The plan is to have servers all over the world. So space is not going to bother them
As if servers are free only because they're all over the world. Even in Gabon you need to pay for each and every server which you're using. 100x more storage space - 100x more expensive (well in reality it's not that simple, but you got the idea).
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As if servers are free only because they're all over the world. Even in Gabon you need to pay for each and every server which you're using. 100x more storage space - 100x more expensive (well in reality it's not that simple, but you got the idea).
Yep know what u are on about but more servers means more space and I honstly dont think kim gives two fucks about that either otherwise he wouldent allow it.

Ultimately, Dotcom envisions a network hosted by thousands of different entities with thousands of different servers, in countries all over the world.

?We?re creating a system where any host in the world ? from the $2,000 garage operation to the largest online host ? can connect their own servers to this network,? Dotcom says. ?We can work with anybody, because the hosts themselves cannot see what?s on the servers.?


He is just an outright dickface and is going to cause so much hassle to copyright holders
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Im wondering if the smaller filelockers will also be able to plug into his system, then they can say, well we cant see whats on the servers as we havent got keys for the files
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Yep know what u are on about but more servers means more space and I honstly dont think kim gives two fucks about that either otherwise he wouldent allow it.

Ultimately, Dotcom envisions a network hosted by thousands of different entities with thousands of different servers, in countries all over the world
For servers he'd need to give money, not fucks lol. And what hosting provider would give a fuck what some delusioned and desperate to save his fat ass guy "envisions" if he doesn't have money to pay for servers? Which he doesn't and wouldn't have because he will never find long term and sustainable processing relationships. No hoster is going to join this thieving network for some idealistic utopean reasons of fucking US gummint and Hollywood moguls. They'd do it for money, but without money - no dough, sorry.
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For servers he'd need to give money, not fucks lol. And what hosting provider would give a fuck what some delusioned and desperate to save his fat ass guy "envisions" if he doesn't have money to pay for servers? Which he doesn't and wouldn't have because he will never find long term and sustainable processing relationships. No hoster is going to join this thieving network for some idealistic utopean reasons of fucking US gummint and Hollywood moguls. They'd do it for money, but without money - no dough, sorry.
Well I guess time will tell what happens
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Im wondering if the smaller filelockers will also be able to plug into his system, then they can say, well we cant see whats on the servers as we havent got keys for the files
They can plug directly into Kim Dotcom's fat ass for all we care. Without processing relationships that wouldn't terminate them for too many DMCAs, no amount of keys or encryption of whatever is going to help them.

And if they will find such relationships (just in theory), they will not need Kim and his network - they can just go on about their business as they always did.
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Im sure LiveJasmin, and Manwin are already writing checks for advertising
You cannot sustain a file locker on advertising. Alot of them tried and failed. And that file locker is going to be even more expensive to run than the standard one, because of higher requirements for server space.
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That's ironic, one content stealing cunt advertising the activities of another....difference ?? Fat boy has some brains !

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The 38-year-old said he would launch Mega on 20 January 2013 - a year to the day since his arrest.

By keeping details of files uploaded on Mega secret from the site's administrators, Mr Dotcom said he believed this would mean the site was not in violation of US laws.

"The new Mega will not be threatened by US prosecutors," he said.

"The new Mega avoids any dealings with US hosters, US domains and US backbone providers and has changed the way it operates to avoid another takedown."

'LOL!!!'

Announcing the new site on Twitter, Mr Dotcom said the holding page - hosted at Me.ga - was already getting "millions" of hits.

He said many of the visits were from US authorities themselves, tweeting: "All FBI agents pressing reload hahaha... We see their IP addresses. LOL!!!"

Exact details of the encryption methods on the upcoming site have not been released. However, it appears to look to shift responsibility for unlawful content onto the users, rather than the site's owners.

"In the past, securely storing and transferring confidential information required the installation of dedicated software," a message on Mega's holding page said.

"The new Mega encrypts and decrypts your data transparently in your browser, on the fly. You hold the keys to what you store in the cloud, not us."

In an interview with Reuters, Mr Dotcom suggested that content owners might even get direct access to users' uploaded files "if they agree not to make us responsible for actions of users".

The site's servers will not be hosted in the US, Mr Dotcom added. A page on the Mega site makes a plea to encourage more investors for the service.

"We have raised sufficient funds to cover the launch," the message reads, "but we would like to provide Mega free of charge for as long as possible."

Mr Dotcom had previously released details of a sister service, Megabox, which will offer music-related downloads.

Unlawful raid

Mr Dotcom - formerly Kim Schmitz - currently resides in his New Zealand mansion which was raided by local authorities at the start of this year.

The raid and seizure of assets was later deemed illegal by a New Zealand court.

It was also later ruled that intelligence agencies had illegally spied on Mr Dotcom - an incident which drew an apology from New Zealand Prime Minister John Key.

"We failed to provide that appropriate protection for him," he said.

"It is the GCSB's [Government Communications Security Bureau] responsibility to act within the law, and it is hugely disappointing that in this case its actions fell outside the law."

If extradited and convicted in the US, Mr Dotcom faces up to 20 years in prison.

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They can plug directly into Kim Dotcom's fat ass for all we care. Without processing relationships that wouldn't terminate them for too many DMCAs, no amount of keys or encryption of whatever is going to help them.

And if they will find such relationships (just in theory), they will not need Kim and his network - they can just go on about their business as they always did.
ok how are you going to send a dmca to a file which you cant see or the host cant see if its encrypted and you or the host havent got the key You would need somebody who knew the uploader to find out what the file was and get the key

Doesent matter if Mega or the small filelockers start to do this it is going to cause major headaches for copyright holders

The hosts are simply gonna say " We cant see what is on the server because its encypted and we havent got the key"
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ok how are you going to send a dmca to a file which you cant see or the host cant see if its encrypted and you or the host havent got the key You would need somebody who knew the uploader to find out what the file was and get the key

Doesent matter if Mega or the small filelockers start to do this it is going to cause major headaches for copyright holders

The hosts are simply gonna say " We cant see what is on the server because its encypted and we havent got the key"
I DMCA encrypted files all day long, it's nothing new. It doesn't matter for a billing company if the link is encrypted - I swear under penalty of perjury that content is mine, and they add a "strike" to a file locker's profile. Several of such strikes, they're out. That's how it works. They do not check links, they take my word for granted.
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When they upload the file they get the key. They then post the link and key to their favorite message board/boards. So the difference between then and now is? You will see that it is your content and send a DMCA. He still needs to comply even if he can't see the file. If he is paying them to do it, he will be in the same boat as he is paying for uploaded content that he knows will have copyrighted material.
What if you lose a key? Does he make a new one for you? So he can make a key and enter your files. The whole thing is just a ruse.
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I DMCA encrypted files all day long, it's nothing new. It doesn't matter for a billing company if the link is encrypted - I swear under penalty of perjury that content is mine, and they add a "strike" to a file locker's profile. Several of such strikes, they're out. That's how it works. They do not check links, they take my word for granted.
yeah right

I dont think you see what this cunt is doing he is pushing file sharing underground so to speak, so it is going to be very hard to find out who is sharing what and I can bet your ass all the other file lockers will follow suit if he makes this a success.
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yeah right

I dont think you see what this cunt is doing he is pushing file sharing underground so to speak, so it is going to be very hard to find out who is sharing what and I can bet your ass all the other file lockers will follow suit if he makes this a success.
No I see what he's trying to do and what I'm trying to tell you is that it isn't going to work. Half of the uploaders are using encrypted password protected rars, it's nothing new. You can not see what they "share" (if you're only checking files found at server and do not see message board posts) and it didn't help any of the 500+ file lockers which got their accounts terminated since July. Hiding "who shares what" is pointless - it may save some of the individual uploaders from being a collateral when a server is seized (but the ones that were targeted and had there message board posts recorded are still fucked), but it will save none of the file lockers.
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When they upload the file they get the key. They then post the link and key to their favorite message board/boards. So the difference between then and now is? You will see that it is your content and send a DMCA. He still needs to comply even if he can't see the file. If he is paying them to do it, he will be in the same boat as he is paying for uploaded content that he knows will have copyrighted material.
What if you lose a key? Does he make a new one for you? So he can make a key and enter your files. The whole thing is just a ruse.
you most prob will get that at first with some of them then the uploaders will say shit like email me for the key only trusted friends will get it Once they have the file they will upload it again with a diff key and so it will go round in circles.

And what cuntface is doing is taking responsibility away from the hosts and on to the uploaders so my guess is they will be very carefull who they give the keys to becuase they know it will fall on thier head if they get caught
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No I see what he's trying to do and what I'm trying to tell you is that it isn't going to work. Half of the uploaders are using encrypted password protected rars, it's nothing new. You can not see what they "share" (if you're only checking files found at server and do not see message board posts) and it didn't help any of the 500+ file lockers which got their accounts terminated since July. Hiding "who shares what" is pointless - it may save some of the individual uploaders from being a collateral when a server is seized (but the ones that were targeted and had there message board posts recorded are still fucked), but it will save none of the file lockers.
So you have been sending out DMCA's and have no idea what the actual rar contained ? Only from what was put on message boards ? damm thats risky lol but fair play to you

With this system the file wont even have a name like they name rar files it will just be numbers and letters that is where I see the problem when you send a DMCA all they will see is a file with numbers and letters no actual name unless you have the key to unlock it
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you most prob will get that at first with some of them then the uploaders will say shit like email me for the key only trusted friends will get it Once they have the file they will upload it again with a diff key and so it will go round in circles.
You of course do realize that they can do exactly that right now (send passwords to rars or even links to trusted surfers only through pm or e-mail) but are not doing it because they'll lose 99.9% of their traffic.

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Responsibility for hosts is still there, because their responsibility does not depend on whether a file is encrypted or not. When they get DMCA, they should remove whether they understand what was in that file or not. And add a "strike" to an uploader's profile - well, in theory. In practice 99% of them of course do not add any "strikes" no matter how many DMCAs uploaders get. That's why we DMCA billing companies - they DO record strikes. Well some rogue billing companies don't, but then you have VISA/MC to fuck them.
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So you have been sending out DMCA's and have no idea what the actual rar contained ? Only from what was put on message boards ? damm thats risky lol but fair play to you

With this system the file wont even have a name like they name rar files it will just be numbers and letters that is where I see the problem when you send a DMCA all they will see is a file with numbers and letters no actual name unless you have the key to unlock it
Of course I have an idea of what's in that file - when I see a post on a message board featuring screenshot from our video and a download link, I have a pretty damn good idea of what's going to be in that file. If you're asking whether I download all links to make it absolutely sure the video is mine - of course I don't. And I'm not required to - I'm required to send DMCA when I have a belief in good faith that content is mine. Screenshot + download link = good faith belief.

File names do not matter at all. Since a very long time most of the uploaders use random file names to avoid spiders or sometimes to even hide the real meaning of their files from file lockers - when they do not allow porn for example. It didn't change anything in the scheme above. No billing company is going to say they're not going to put a strike on record because the file name is 16763mna.rar and not stolen_video_from_your_program.wmv.
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