monro

Have it not occur to you what's behind it? The logistic I mean: All of a sudden demonstrations starts all over the word, the very same day. One thousands buses hired to take demonstrators into
London only! In the country where I live demonstrations started the same
day in small villages and in the cities. Must be a BIG organization behind
this! Here it is the communist party for sure! Obviously they still have strong
links all over the world. ( Fiedel Castro was informed as well I saw )
Do remember that war do not include guns only!

stanton

I think maybe you do not have enough links in your stupid fucking brain to realize that it is not Saddam who is wasting his money for some fucking buses for protests, which not gonna do shitm but just a muslim organizations which are against the war?!

gothweb

Who says the demonstrations were in favor of Saddam Hussein? Being against the war, as currently planned, is very different from supporting him.

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monro

I can assure you that no muslim organizations exist where I live.

Please use proper language.

monro

Of course it is support of Saddams regim!
have you seen the reaction from Iraq today? USA defeted etc etc.

Dont you think those "against war" people giving Hitler what he asked for was supporting him and in the end sent millions to death?

Dopy

Are you kidding LOL

There is no escaping the scum - they are everywhere.

monro

Maybe......
But I'm armed

Probono

For all my opinion is worth I need to add it.

I am on the fence regarding this war. I was a very active anti war organizer in the Vietnam war era but this is different.

I wonder why I cannot remember any anti war demonstrations when US and European forces deployed to help the Muslims in Bosnia? Where there demonstrations?

Why is it that Saddam Hussan's genocide is different then Serbia's genocide of Muslims.

I am a bit confused. What I do believe is that Saddam has hidden vast amounts or chemcial and bilological agents. Saddam has a missile system that has a longer range then allowed by the UN. this from Hans Blix not GW Bush. Saddam has not complied with UN resolution 1441 which put the obligation on him to prove he disarmed. Instead weapons inspectors need to chase around Iraq looking for weapons.

I agree with Bill Clinton Saddam has weapons, he might not be a clear and present danger to the US but his weapons put into the hands of terrorists are.

I think giving the UN more time is a political necessity but they will not ever find anything Iraq does not want them to find.

I think this will end up with many people dying the question is should it be innocent victims of cheical or biological weapons released in some city in Europe or the US or should it be the leadership of Iraq?

gothweb

Doing something that ends up benefiting or furthering a cause is not the same as supporting it. I'm not sure if English is your first language, but there's a difference there.

The people who marched, marched against the war, including details of the current plans-- The lack of diplomatic options, etc. That does not mean all of the people support Iraq. That is just assinine.

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monro

I am not sure you understans what I mean?
It is the logistic. How can all of a sudden the demonstrations starts all over the world at the very same day? Must be a very big organisation beind?

KRL

Look closely at the dude in this picture on the right. He's from Malaysia. Do you even think for a minute this guy made that sign or even understands the words in it. Give me a break. The Iraqi's have turned on their propoganda machine full force.

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Serge_Oprano

yeah,
fuckers demonstrate for Hussein,
but who is talking on thos people behalf??

http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/Qu...uchenwald.html

Ironhorse

Do you think Saddam and Osama meet secretely each night in Damascus and plot this shit out over some tea and crunchy sesame bakhlava?

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Serge_Oprano

internet is good enough for those meeting,
where have you been\?

it's 21st century out there...

directfiesta

Nobody is IN FAVOR of Sadaam Hussein. You did not see signs such as:

Long Live to Sadaam!!

Sadaam, youre the man!

Sadaam I love you

Sadaam for US president!!!


What you saw is people and signs AGAINST a war and the current US administration:

War for oil!

BUSH is a mass murderer

Imperialist US

Peace, not war!


I hope you are able to see the difference.

flashfreak

you sir are a brainwashed american. how the fuck do you know he doesn't know english?

also this one : "The Iraqi's have turned on their propoganda machine full force" made me piss of laughing...

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rooster

Lets create a hypothetical. Lets say saddam magically gets rid of all his conventional and unconventional weapons.

That still does not change the fact that he brutalizes his people. They don't have any freedom whatsoever and if they say one bad word about saddam they are never heard from again. They are starving to death because of the sanctions saddam brought on.

So either you want the guy removed or not. Get off the fence. If the usa dosent do it, then nobody else will.

monro

1. I have been on the net before windows.
2. I do not think that all those demostrations have been organiesed by internet.
3. If internet; who is behind? Links please!

KRL

Because he is in Malaysia and the native language is Malay. Do protesters in the USA make signs in fucking JAPANESE?

Come on dude, get real. That picture says it all. Wake the fuck up and realize all these protests were organized and Saddam got the fucking bill and gladly paid it. Who's kidding who.

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directfiesta

It seems that you do ignore that peace movements exists in every corner of the world ( even if it is round ).

They are in contact and do organise different events ( conferences, manifestations, publications. etc...). Greenpeace could illustrate a bit what it looks like. They have "offices" in every country and raise funds in every country.

You give too much credit to Sadamm Hussein: he organized that.. This is the funiest thing I read here ... at least I hope it was intended as a joke; otherwise you are really ... well I won't insult you.

X37375787

LoL, moron.

directfiesta

If you look at other news than CNN, you will see that most demonstrations in all countries were featuring signs in English.

You see, the whole point was to get the message to the Americans, so they tought English would me the best. They hesitated tough with spanish, but they kept the english....

ThunderBalls

You really should consider sueing your therapist.

flashfreak

Bush and all americans don't fucking care about Iraq's people! there are plenty of nations starving in Africa under a dictatorial president.. why doesn't he start with them? Or with North Korea.. they're starving too and it's WELL KNOWN they have nuclear weapons ...

so spare us with "The big savior" poem! DOH!

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Sly_RJ

I don't know of many African nations that possess weapons they agreed not to possess. I don't know of many African nations that have repeatedly broken CRITICAL TREATIES and strung the world along.

Do you?

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flashfreak

rooster's post sugested that Bush does the war because he wants to save iraq's people which is totally wrong in my opinion.

ok, lets forget about african countries, how about North Koreea?
who was caught with nuclear weapons iraq or north korea? they even admit it and said smth like: "what's your problem? we can bomb any fucking region on the globe 'cause we have power now..." .
so it's a biig diference... but when you think only about oil it doesn't matter at all...

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rooster

"rooster's post sugested that Bush does the war because he wants to save iraq's people which is totally wrong in my opinion. "

I'm not suggesting that. I'm suggesting that even if the protestors are against wars in general, they should be glad a non-free brutalized people will be liberated. Those people do not have the freedom to go out and protest against their
government.

What have these protestors done the last 12 years to help these people? Or do they just not care and only care about their political bias and making bush look bad.

GreenBooger

This link goes to the Bay Area headquarters of the "Peace" organization run by Saddam's U.S. legal representative, Ramsey Clark. Keep up with the propaganda and what Saddam is directing his U.S. fans to do next.


http://www.actionsf.org/

playa

good point

Juggernaut

The blunt truth, is that this pending war is all about oil. No matter where you go, left or right of the argument, it all ends up going back to one place.

Saddam, controller of the second largest oil reserve on the planet, converted his oil transaction currency standard to the Euro in Nov. 2000. This will lower the US dollar against the Euro and this will allow a lot more control over OPEC to the Europeans. At the moment there are no Europeans in OPEC as members.

This is about money, what you need to do, is research before making outrageous sweeping comments about obvious facts you have no right churning. The idea that Saddam would even be able to get hundreds of millions of people in every major capital city in the world to march, is ludicrous.

The people are marching because they know, something is wrong here, something about these wars, is fucked up. There has never been anything positive about war. The connection between Osama Bin Laden and Saddam Hussein is so far that it's a stretch of the truth at best.

You're forgetting that the US government funded Saddam to do what he has done in his country against Iran, which ultimately put him in the position he is in. You forget that the US funded the Afghans against the impending doom the Russians which ultimately put the Taliban in control over there.

You know what the worst part of this is? that if this is about terror and if it's about paying back the people responsible for things like the WTC attack and preventing it from happening again, how can killing US soldiers and ruining their families in years to come, be positive? how can you weigh these 110,000 + soldiers in the balance like that?

You already pay the lowest fuel prices in the world, and yet saving another penny on the dollar is so important. You'd think that a country with an economic stand point that is nine times greater than it's nearest rival, would have more sense than to let one man control the destiny for a whole world.

steffie

My grandmother was in Dachau, with other hundreds of Gypsies. She just passed away last year and she always believed that their should nobody and I mean nobody (muslim, jew, christian etc etc) ever see the horror of war again.

I personally lost a friend in Vietnam, I was young but remembered the Anti War protests and I remember when they came home after the media showed children who were shot, calling them babykillers.

War sucks, there is never a good time for it. CNN said thousands were at the rally FOR Bin Laden. Well uhm, i bet not many were women with children. Because as we seen on Yugoslavia these are the first to suffer.

My sister is married to a serb. My family has seen to much, I don't want my boys to go to war. I don't want my daughters to be caught in the middle for some entertainment.

It's all screwed.

Now back to work uploading pictures...

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steffie

http://cghs.dade.k12.fl.us/holocaust/gypsies.htm

food for thought
now I really gotta go

xoxox

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Keev

If it aint us fighting for oil it will be europe fighting for it shortly. why? becuase europe depends on the iraq,middle east for its sole source of oil. We get our sources from mexico, and a couple other countries along with saudi arabia, kuwait

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