Is porn biz dead now?

[DVTimes]

No one seems to be starting new sites, in fact mjost are shutting.

99% is free on tubes.

Is it not time to move to non porn?

In the UK bingo and poker sites seem popular.

[DamianJ]

I wish you were dead.

[anexsia]

No, it's still very much alive - any program or affiliate making money from adult already knows this.

[DVTimes]

Originally Posted by DamianJ

I wish you were dead.

[Roald]

Didn't you claim like last month that you found a new way to generate sales?

[- Jesus Christ -]

Replace "porn biz" with "US economy"
and "dead" with "dying"... then yes.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by DamianJ

I wish you were dead.

[Matyko]

"99% is free on tubes" --> I think its bullshit. Maybe 99% of what you push is available on tubes. I only drive bigger traffic to hand picked sponsors who Do Care about their content.

Also, I truly believe that with time piracy will be reduced. The demand for pirated content as well, however it will never fade away, but it won't take away potential buyers from the industry. It is OK to get rid of the freeloaders and have better quality traffic.

Also, I am talking with people I know about their porn surfing habits [don't think I do this in a pushy way, but if the convo goes to this topic I usually ask] and Everyone I asked so far is concerned about the viruses/spam/scam, and they usually stick to a few free sites they know for longer time and have good experience with. These people I talk to in our little country are not potential buyers, but they do know that the difference in the quality and service in Huge [tube/free site VS member area content].

Porn is not dead at all.

[Konda]

Originally Posted by DVTimes

No one seems to be starting new sites

.... http://6bot.com/

[Penny24Seven]

none of my content is on tubes, Not even a 1 minute clip so where do you get this 99% from? I do not own 1% of the worlds content but I do know others

[Rochard]

No one is starting new sites? I got an email this morning about a new site...

[Axel_Crak]

not that thread again
stfu or quit this industry

[Paul Markham]

The porn business will never die. It's adapted. From days when shooting 5 scenes for a DVD could net $150k or more, shooting 5 magazine sets would net $15,000. To today when most of porn is used to sell traffic.

We still do fairly well considering, but the great days were 6 years ago, give or take.

[SlammedMedia]

People have been asking this same stupid fucking question since 2000. Shut the fuck up and work a little harder, there's lots of money to still be made.

[Kenny B!]

Originally Posted by Axel_Crak

not that thread again
stfu or quit this industry

For a french guy you speak perfect english, I was going to say the exact same thing mon ami!

[Penny24Seven]

Originally Posted by Axel_Crak

not that thread again
stfu or quit this industry

haha your best post

[RyanEagle]

How can porn business be dead? Sex IS a basic need.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

[Dirty Dane]

This month is bad.

[cordoba]

Porn is not dead and it's on the brink of a new golden age for those who hang around. The greater problem is from nutjobs like Romney wanting to spoil the fun.

[LeRoy]

Seriously

Stop crying like a little bitch!

Generate traffic or quit. Its as simple as that

[bbobby86]

free tube is killing...

[Lonny]

so the new sites added in the pimp roll web master
area is a figment of my imagination?

[barelist]

Each month has been better than the last for us this year...

[ilnjscb]

I think the gross revenue has declined significantly. That is only my opinion. I understand that vast numbers of new consumers have been created, but I think the revenue per consumer has fallen greatly.

As has been stated many times, the average person cannot now make an easy killing. No one will tell stories like the ones posted here from years ago such as "after a few months I was making $350k a month - I couldn't believe it!" (actual quote, edited for brevity)

Now we'll see hardworking smart fellows squeezing every penny out because they love the lifestyle a la "after months of tweaking the banners and carefully choosing which sites to focus on, and developing a content strategy of 11 minute trailers with short money shots focused on my 3 niches, I was able to turn the traffic from Norway and Iceland into an extra sale a day". Is this fun? Not dead, just difficult and slow. Like driving a Dodge Dart up the Matterhorn.

[CaptainHowdy]

The porn biz is undead. Deal with it.

[The Porn Nerd]

The porn biz is NOT dead, just differant people are profiting from it.

What IS "the porn biz" anyway? Paysite memberships? DVD rentals/sales? Video on demand? Or is it cams? Dating? Penis pills? I was in a magazine shop yesterday and saw tons of porn mags still on the shelves.....

So what IS "the porn biz"? It's as profitable as ever, just differant people are now getting a cut, that's all.

[dillonaire]

yes, everybody has decided to quit jacking off.

[epitome]

Launching new sites all of the time.

[AFSCxxx]

Do you just pull this information out of your ass and then post it? No porn isn't "dead" and new sites are being created all of the time.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by ilnjscb

...vast numbers of new consumers have been created...

People talk about huge numbers of folks coming onto the Internet for the first time, but fail to realize that the bulk of those new prospects are from BRIC-I nations and the like, so even if you can find a way to bill them, they may not have the money to spend on porn -- these are not "rich Americans"

Originally Posted by ilnjscb

Is this fun? Not dead, just difficult and slow. Like driving a Dodge Dart up the Matterhorn.

I know there's a lot of Bentley-driving ballers on GFY, but I drive a Dodge Dart (1970) and it isn't running like it used to...

Things change

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by AFSCxxx

Do you just pull this information out of your ass and then post it? No porn isn't "dead" and new sites are being created all of the time.

He's a shit low level affiliate. Sent one of the programs I work for about 2 sales in 6 months. I imagine now I've explained he steals content and rewatermarked it, probably other programs have banned him too. As everyone should.

[pornmasta]

[baryl]

I mostly promote Japanese which is probably the absolute worst niche to promote considering the ridiculous piracy and the fact that you're trying to sell censored porn.

In spite of all that, I make a pretty consistent bit of money every month and makes sales every day. and this is on top of the fact that the economy is in the shitter.

I'd take a wild guess that a lot of people's crap sales are due in large part to all of the slopped-together, no effort sites and spam blogs that a lot of webmasters these days have.

edit: also, Gay porn is as solid as ever. Gay guys have money, that's a true stereotype.

[Killswitch]

Originally Posted by LeRoy

Seriously

Stop crying like a little bitch!

Generate traffic or quit. Its as simple as that

Smart man.

[pornmasta]

what's happen if you don't make money:

[Paul Markham]

Some observations from one pair of eyes over the last 50 years.

60s, hardcore porn was small. Very small. It was mostly illegal until the late 60s. The revenue from it was so great retail was dominated by criminals. They were selling porn = crime = criminals. Softcore was a great money maker for a few.

70s Boomed as it became more legal and more accepted.

80s ditto.

90s were the real boom years. Cable TV, strip shows, phone sex, hardcore shops were wide spread, magazines were easier to print. If you owned any of those you had a license to print money. Look at the owners. Flynt, Heffner, Guccione, Raymond, Sullivan, Gold, Desmond, look at who used to own Swank and Crescent, Beate Uhse. And there were more. No myths, nothing behind a web of no one knows. Huge companies as well. Anyone who went to a Venus Berlin show would see that. If they went to a warehouse, they would be knocked out at the size.

The problem was getting a foot on the ladder. To get in you needed money and skills. Remember the thread about checks being 14 days late???????????? That's a sign of a business running hand to mouth.

2000s Then came the Internet and the flood gates opened. Most here never saw the porn business prior to 1998, except as a consumer. Now all you needed to be "in" the porn business was a computer and connection. The success was measured by the amount of traffic looking at porn online. I saw the offline marketing shrinking as online grew. I never saw more money in the porn business even though I saw more in mine.I saw it move from shops to sites.

Most of them free and even those with memberships a member could download 50 to 1,000 videos in a month or two and not bother staying for the next year to get the daily updates. Or maybe he did when he already had 1,000 on his external hard drives, which I was seeing more often in shops.

Today we have sites selling 1000 uniques for $4. Will 10 of them spend $30 each? = $300. I doubt it if they did the traffic wouldn't be cheap and there would be none to sell.

We have no company with visible accounts except AFF, one is a mystery who really owns it and the rest. Many are selling out because they see the future. Those posting today will be replying from home which is where they work from. Go figure, what used to high street shops and office blocks is now people's living rooms or spare bedroom. And who knows who most of them are or what they really do?

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by cordoba

Porn is not dead and it's on the brink of a new golden age for those who hang around. The greater problem is from nutjobs like Romney wanting to spoil the fun.

Romney has as much chance of blocking porn as I have of getting elected.

Originally Posted by Stephen

People talk about huge numbers of folks coming onto the Internet for the first time, but fail to realize that the bulk of those new prospects are from BRIC-I nations and the like, so even if you can find a way to bill them, they may not have the money to spend on porn -- these are not "rich Americans"

These Indians logging on from their village are money. Sell them clicking at $4 a 1,000.

I know there's a lot of Bentley-driving ballers on GFY, but I drive a Dodge Dart (1970) and it isn't running like it used to...

Until the repo man comes and gets it.

Things changed

[Pyewacket]

If you think porn is dead... quit. Simple as that. Don't allow yourself to have any fantasies while jerking off, or look at any images at all. After a month without porn, let us know what you think.. if we still care.

The money isn't what it used to be, but then what is? oh, wait.. the cry that porn is dead. I've been hearing that one for a long time, right along with the warnings about the killer earthquake for Southern California. Porn has been around as long as man. It just keeps reinventing itself to keep everyone entertained.

[buzzard]

Yep is died. No hornies anymore.