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BlackCrayon 10-18-2012 04:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by seeric (Post 19258575)
Also, I know you say in a defense scenario it's OK, my post is mostly for people who will read this who are anti gun 100%.

Let me ask you this though. If you had an 8 year old daughter, and she was kidnapped, held for a period of time, say 5 months, tortured by her assailant, raped repeatedly, starved, basically 5 months of the worst situation you can think of, then murdered and dismembered by the kidnapper, you would not support a capital conviction, and go watch him die?

I'm pretty anti death penalty but in that scenario I would probably take some satisfaction in watching that sick prick sizzle in the chair.

California does lethal injection though, so no sizzle.

Haha.
you might think so but i doubt it would do anything to stop the pain. society created most of its monsters. the monsters didn't just create themselves.

digitalfantasies 10-18-2012 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 19259305)
you might think so but i doubt it would do anything to stop the pain. society created most of its monsters. the monsters didn't just create themselves.
not always true... society can create monsters yes..

some in a lot of cases potential monsters are just being born... maybe some abuse from their parent helps as little to transform to pure evil... but society has nothing to do with that.

Best-In-BC 10-18-2012 06:10 AM
If johnny clips would just enjoy some violence he may not be his roomates bitch

PR_Glen 10-18-2012 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by seeric (Post 19258431)
I have a gun. A pistol grip 12 gauge Mossberg 500 Cruiser with a distracting 220 lumens strobe light at the end of it.

Want to know why?

Because the dirtbags who are doing home invasions in LA carry guns. Gang bangers with no care for human life. We have something called the 2nd Amendment here. It entitles me bear arms, which in a home defense scenario translates to protecting myself and my family. Notice how I didn't say property, because for that you call the cops once they leave.

I'm trained, professionally, as a police officer and by the military to handle it.

I live in an affluent neighborhood, in a nice house. Those homes are now being targeted by LA Gangs. I can assure you that if my home gets "Flocked", as they call it here in the Los Angeles area, the last thing some shit bag coming up the stairs with whatever he's carrying is going to hear is the rack of that shotgun and blinding light in his face.

Should that not deter him enough and he presents a clear and present danger to my family, and the use of deadly force is authorized to stop him/her, I will not hesitate for a second to send him home to whatever God he prays to in situations like that.

So, if you can answer a question, and it makes sense and doesn't get me killed, I will get rid of my gun.

What would you do if your home was invaded by gun wielding gang bangers, your wife is asleep, you see them coming with their arms up your stairs, and there is no where to escape to? What do you do in the next 2-5 seconds to save your life?

Hypothetical question.

Thanks.

I don't think anyone here, who is sane, would disagree with owning a weapon or multiples in such a scenario.

However, I think a more important question would be why would you live in such a place where this would be necessary? Shit man, i live across from detroit and I know it's not THAT bad over there for the most part, where the hell are you living? Hell? I'm sure it's a beautiful place but I'm talking safety here. I'm a bad ass too but I'm not going to camp out in a tiger cage ;)

Tom_PM 10-18-2012 07:11 AM
Death is an end to suffering.

That's why some people are against the death penalty. Because they want maximum possible suffering.

jimmycooper 10-18-2012 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 19259414)
I don't think anyone here, who is sane, would disagree with owning a weapon or multiples in such a scenario.

However, I think a more important question would be why would you live in such a place where this would be necessary? Shit man, i live across from detroit and I know it's not THAT bad over there for the most part, where the hell are you living? Hell? I'm sure it's a beautiful place but I'm talking safety here. I'm a bad ass too but I'm not going to camp out in a tiger cage ;)
He has a sweet job so my guess is that he's in a pretty nice area. But nice areas are where shit like that is starting to happen both in LA and here in NYC. Places where the 'haves' and 'have nots' must co-exist closely with one another. It's the economy.

BlackCrayon 10-18-2012 08:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 19259414)
I don't think anyone here, who is sane, would disagree with owning a weapon or multiples in such a scenario.

However, I think a more important question would be why would you live in such a place where this would be necessary? Shit man, i live across from detroit and I know it's not THAT bad over there for the most part, where the hell are you living? Hell? I'm sure it's a beautiful place but I'm talking safety here. I'm a bad ass too but I'm not going to camp out in a tiger cage ;)
he lives in a state of fear.

DWB 10-18-2012 08:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 19259414)
However, I think a more important question would be why would you live in such a place where this would be necessary? Shit man, i live across from detroit and I know it's not THAT bad over there for the most part, where the hell are you living? Hell? I'm sure it's a beautiful place but I'm talking safety here.
Shit happens everywhere. Doesn't matter if you're in rural Idaho or down town LA, violent crime happens. Some places just have more of it than others. Having a firearm to protect your family, regardless of where you live, is perfectly normal.

Every person on the face of the earth who has ever been mugged, robbed, burglarized, or attacked in any way, all thought it would never happen to them. And what is the one thing every single one of them has in common? They were all wrong.

DWB 10-18-2012 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by jimmycooper (Post 19259675)
He has a sweet job so my guess is that he's in a pretty nice area. But nice areas are where shit like that is starting to happen both in LA and here in NYC. Places where the 'haves' and 'have nots' must co-exist closely with one another. It's the economy.
The divide between haves and have nots is only going to increase, and probably at a rapid pace.

seeric 10-18-2012 09:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 19259414)
I don't think anyone here, who is sane, would disagree with owning a weapon or multiples in such a scenario.

However, I think a more important question would be why would you live in such a place where this would be necessary? Shit man, i live across from detroit and I know it's not THAT bad over there for the most part, where the hell are you living? Hell? I'm sure it's a beautiful place but I'm talking safety here. I'm a bad ass too but I'm not going to camp out in a tiger cage ;)
I agree. Lol. I don't go near those bad neighborhoods.

I live in one of the most affluent communities in California. The gang bangers are now traveling out of their neighborhoods and targeting more wealthy neighborhoods. I am not wealthy, but I live in a wealthy neighborhood.

This new gangbanger thing is called "Flocking". They basically get together and go to rich neighborhoods, four or five of them will arm up and do the home invasion thing. The economy here is awful, and they are now preying on distance locales that have more money than their neighborhoods.

Also related, the crime statistics show that gas station and convenience store robberies are elevated again. The economy is squeezing them all back to violent and street crimes.

seeric 10-18-2012 09:18 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 19259699)
he lives in a state of fear.
Not true. I live in a state of preparedness.

My life is awesome.

:thumbsup

seeric 10-18-2012 09:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 19259305)
you might think so but i doubt it would do anything to stop the pain. society created most of its monsters. the monsters didn't just create themselves.
Yeah, I agree. Nothing could ever fill that hole that would be left in your life.

Society created nothing. All are individually in control of their own future and success or failure. Fact.

edit: Barring the mentally ill. They know not what they do in some instances.

CDSmith 10-18-2012 09:34 AM
"...and anyone who disagrees with me can lick my starfish..."


That's captain of the debate team stuff right there. I bow to the mad skills being 'splayed here.

Dirty F 10-18-2012 12:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by seeric (Post 19258431)
I have a gun. A pistol grip 12 gauge Mossberg 500 Cruiser with a distracting 220 lumens strobe light at the end of it.

Want to know why?

Because the dirtbags who are doing home invasions in LA carry guns. Gang bangers with no care for human life. We have something called the 2nd Amendment here. It entitles me bear arms, which in a home defense scenario translates to protecting myself and my family. Notice how I didn't say property, because for that you call the cops once they leave.

I'm trained, professionally, as a police officer and by the military to handle it.

I live in an affluent neighborhood, in a nice house. Those homes are now being targeted by LA Gangs. I can assure you that if my home gets "Flocked", as they call it here in the Los Angeles area, the last thing some shit bag coming up the stairs with whatever he's carrying is going to hear is the rack of that shotgun and blinding light in his face.

Should that not deter him enough and he presents a clear and present danger to my family, and the use of deadly force is authorized to stop him/her, I will not hesitate for a second to send him home to whatever God he prays to in situations like that.

So, if you can answer a question, and it makes sense and doesn't get me killed, I will get rid of my gun.

What would you do if your home was invaded by gun wielding gang bangers, your wife is asleep, you see them coming with their arms up your stairs, and there is no where to escape to? What do you do in the next 2-5 seconds to save your life?

Hypothetical question.

Thanks.
I feel sorry for you you have to live your life like that.

I'm glad that i don't live in a country where both my neighbours most likely have guns. That would worry me way more than a burglar who most likely will never ever enter my house.

I truly hope one day you can live without fear. Maybe you need to move out of your retarded 3rd world country.

Dirty F 10-18-2012 12:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 19259809)
"...and anyone who disagrees with me can lick my starfish..."


That's captain of the debate team stuff right there. I bow to the mad skills being 'splayed here.
Why don't you go fist yourself, faggot.

jimmycooper 10-18-2012 01:07 PM
Just a bunch of random senseless crime over here lately.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/m...hFsJWrZE.email
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/24/ny...imes.html?_r=0
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012...assault-charge

atom 10-18-2012 01:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by seeric (Post 19258431)
I have a gun. A pistol grip 12 gauge Mossberg 500 Cruiser with a distracting 220 lumens strobe light at the end of it.

Want to know why?

Because the dirtbags who are doing home invasions in LA carry guns. Gang bangers with no care for human life. We have something called the 2nd Amendment here. It entitles me bear arms, which in a home defense scenario translates to protecting myself and my family. Notice how I didn't say property, because for that you call the cops once they leave.

I'm trained, professionally, as a police officer and by the military to handle it.

I live in an affluent neighborhood, in a nice house. Those homes are now being targeted by LA Gangs. I can assure you that if my home gets "Flocked", as they call it here in the Los Angeles area, the last thing some shit bag coming up the stairs with whatever he's carrying is going to hear is the rack of that shotgun and blinding light in his face.

Should that not deter him enough and he presents a clear and present danger to my family, and the use of deadly force is authorized to stop him/her, I will not hesitate for a second to send him home to whatever God he prays to in situations like that.

So, if you can answer a question, and it makes sense and doesn't get me killed, I will get rid of my gun.

What would you do if your home was invaded by gun wielding gang bangers, your wife is asleep, you see them coming with their arms up your stairs, and there is no where to escape to? What do you do in the next 2-5 seconds to save your life?

Hypothetical question.

Thanks.
I agree with everything you said except letting them hear you rack the Mossberg. To me this is giving away a big tactical advantage. A SWAT guy I went through training with was really anti shotgun for home defense unless you were going to keep a round chambered.

Its also nice to see you share the "only when a life is threatened" motto for drawing a weapon. Too many people that own guns have the rambo mentality and are looking for an excuse to draw. If I came home and somebody was stealing my TV i would help them load the fucker in their car and get a new/better one from my insurance company.

BlackCrayon 10-19-2012 04:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by seeric (Post 19259773)
Not true. I live in a state of preparedness.

My life is awesome.

:thumbsup
i just wouldn't be happy if i always was worried about someone breaking in to my place. i don't live in a wealthy area, average household income is something like 100-130k. there are times when i thought having a gun might be a good idea but then i think my mind will always be going to that gun whenever there is something amiss when 9 times out of 10 its nothing. i just can't see myself living in that mindset.


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