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  • lezinterracial
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2012
    • 3116

    #1

    websites that use embed vids from tube sites

    If you have a site that has embedded videos from xvideos or xhamster. And some of those embedded videos are copyrighted, Are you libel as well as the tube site?
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  • Mr Pheer
    So Fucking Banned
    • Dec 2002
    • 22082

    #2
    You probably wouldnt be libel, unless you wrote something about it.

    You could, however, be liable for supporting copyright infringement.

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    • Colmike9
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      • Dec 2011
      • 7217

      #3
      Not unless you also upload the files to your server. Embedding videos is just code that calls their info with none of the videos being hosted by you..
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      • d-null
        . . .
        • Apr 2007
        • 13724

        #4
        Originally posted by Colmike7
        Not unless you also upload the files to your server. Embedding videos is just code that calls their info with none of the videos being hosted by you..
        did you check with a lawyer on that? embedding is still publishing

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        • freecartoonporn
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          • Jan 2012
          • 7683

          #5
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          • sicone
            Retired
            • Jan 2004
            • 18453

            #6
            Didn't the courts just make a ruling on this?

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            • brassmonkey
              Pay It Forward
              • Sep 2005
              • 77385

              #7
              Originally posted by lezinterracial
              If you have a site that has embedded videos from xvideos or xhamster. And some of those embedded videos are copyrighted, Are you libel as well as the tube site?
              you are not
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              • Tube Ace
                So Fucking Banned
                • Nov 2008
                • 4941

                #8
                Originally posted by sicone
                Didn't the courts just make a ruling on this?
                Yes they did.

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                • tfs
                  Confirmed User
                  • Dec 2005
                  • 624

                  #9
                  What if you embedded an allegedly "illegal" tube video on your site but had links and ads pointing to the original producer's - or copywrite holder's - website?

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                  • DamageX
                    Marketing & Strategy
                    • Jun 2001
                    • 14293

                    #10
                    Originally posted by brassmonkey
                    you are not
                    I'm sure boneprone would beg to differ.
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                    • Colmike9
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                      • Dec 2011
                      • 7217

                      #11
                      Originally posted by d-null
                      did you check with a lawyer on that? embedding is still publishing
                      I'm going to ask my lawyer now, not that I ever embed anything..

                      But lets say I'm promoting a big tube by making a 'fake tube' by embedding those videos or have a blog doing the same thing or embedding any other video from another site that allows embedding. When a copyrighted video that isn't supposed to be on the original site is DMCA'ed and taken down, it becomes unavailable for everyone that has it embedded too. How else would the sites with the embedded content know about it?
                      And if the video is knowingly stolen in the first place, the video should be reported and not wonder if you should embed that one or not...
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                      • d-null
                        . . .
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 13724

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Colmike7
                        I'm going to ask my lawyer now, not that I ever embed anything..

                        But lets say I'm promoting a big tube by making a 'fake tube' by embedding those videos or have a blog doing the same thing or embedding any other video from another site that allows embedding. When a copyrighted video that isn't supposed to be on the original site is DMCA'ed and taken down, it becomes unavailable for everyone that has it embedded too. How else would the sites with the embedded content know about it?
                        And if the video is knowingly stolen in the first place, the video should be reported and not wonder if you should embed that one or not...
                        dmca protects site owners in the case of user uploads

                        if you are embedding on your site, you are the publisher ("uploader")

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                        • Colmike9
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                          • Dec 2011
                          • 7217

                          #13
                          Originally posted by d-null
                          dmca protects site owners in the case of user uploads

                          if you are embedding on your site, you are the publisher ("uploader")
                          But they wouldn't be the original uploader..

                          I guess I'll just call my lawyer sometime this week.
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                          • d-null
                            . . .
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 13724

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Colmike7
                            But they wouldn't be the original uploader..

                            I guess I'll just call my lawyer sometime this week.
                            why should it matter the origin of the file, who originally stole it doesn't matter

                            your actions as a webmaster are knowingly publishing a video on your site, it is not a random user publishing the video on your site, it doesn't matter that someone uploaded it somewhere else first and now you are publishing their upload, you are now choosing to put something directly on your site by your actions.... pretty hard to hide behind dmca for that

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                            • brassmonkey
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                              • Sep 2005
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                              #15
                              consult a lawyer
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                              • Colmike9
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                                • Dec 2011
                                • 7217

                                #16
                                Originally posted by d-null
                                why should it matter the origin of the file, who originally stole it doesn't matter

                                your actions as a webmaster are knowingly publishing a video on your site, it is not a random user publishing the video on your site, it doesn't matter that someone uploaded it somewhere else first and now you are publishing their upload, you are now choosing to put something directly on your site by your actions.... pretty hard to hide behind dmca for that


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                                • halfpint
                                  GFY's Halfpint
                                  • Jun 2007
                                  • 15223

                                  #17
                                  Ask Boneprone he got away with it because it they were embeded and not hosted on the serve, dont know why you would want to emebed other tube site movies anyway when you can buy cheap content for a tube
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                                  • seeme
                                    Stephen
                                    • Jun 2011
                                    • 840

                                    #18
                                    I would say it depends on whether you personally embedded that html into your site yourself or if you have a script that imports them.

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                                    • halfpint
                                      GFY's Halfpint
                                      • Jun 2007
                                      • 15223

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by XYZTraffic
                                      I would say it depends on whether you personally embedded that html into your site yourself or if you have a script that imports them.
                                      On one of my tube sites I used to own. I would accept plugs for traffic trades and I got a take down request for a picture which the user used for his plug. I took it down and the owner of the pic was very polite about the whole thing, but if you are gonna allow tube embeds from other tubes then expect to get take down notices

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                                      • michael.partnercash
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jul 2012
                                        • 197

                                        #20
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                                        Well using embeded videos is ok and fast to build up your tubes if you do not produce on your own.
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