Dear Paul, we are only getting 1:62 with one of our paysites. Can you help improve?

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  • epitome
    So Fucking Lame
    • Jun 2009
    • 12156

    #1

    Dear Paul, we are only getting 1:62 with one of our paysites. Can you help improve?



    Hi Paul,

    We are distraught that we can only get 1:62 when you've said that anything worse than 1:1 is no good.

    Your valuable insight is desperately needed.

    This was taken right from the NATS admin that shows an overview when you login. It reflects all traffic, both good and bad, both in-house and affiliate.

    I hope you're not sleeping right now because we really need your advice!
  • pornmasta
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Jun 2006
    • 20016

    #2
    That's gay

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    • epitome
      So Fucking Lame
      • Jun 2009
      • 12156

      #3
      Originally posted by pornmasta
      That's gay
      It is. It's VERY gay.

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      • Rochard
        Jägermeister Test Pilot
        • Dec 2001
        • 75733

        #4
        Well clearly if there was some magic join pages involved you would have much better ratios!
        Herschel Savage
        Brooklyn, NY

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        • Emil
          Confirmed User
          • Feb 2007
          • 5658

          #5
          If anyone can help you it's Paul.
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          • epitome
            So Fucking Lame
            • Jun 2009
            • 12156

            #6
            Thanks everyone. I'm fraught with anxiety.

            I'm sure PaulMarkhamTeens.com is pulling 1:1 and I want to know his secret!

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            • Penny24Seven
              So Fucking What
              • Jun 2007
              • 6287

              #7
              his ratio was better then 1:1 because he was getting joins and you could not even get to the sign up page so zero clicks and 30 joins 0:30 beat that
              Our site is coming soon. It will be one of the best ever! I know so. Brian and Penny

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              • epitome
                So Fucking Lame
                • Jun 2009
                • 12156

                #8
                Originally posted by Brian837
                his ratio was better then 1:1 because he was getting joins and you could not even get to the sign up page so zero clicks and 30 joins 0:30 beat that


                I read it wrong at first and was like wtf our join page is down? I frantically typed in the url to check. Thank God I just read it wrong. I should probably read slower.

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                • Paul Markham
                  Too old to care
                  • Jun 2001
                  • 52942

                  #9
                  The only way I can help is with a login. Need also to know where the traffic is coming from as well.



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                  • BareBacked
                    Confirmed User
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 3685

                    #10
                    Nice numbers . We should trade some sales?
                    NEW SITE PAYING $30 for a $1 TRIAL

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                    • flashfire
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                      • Feb 2003
                      • 13098

                      #11
                      very nice numbers

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                      • TheSquealer
                        Mayor of Thneedville
                        • Oct 2004
                        • 26174

                        #12
                        He needs an username and password to understand how to make the tour convert better and thats "the only way" he can help?

                        I'm no expert, but it looks like someone just wants some gay porn.
                        .
                        Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

                        Rochard

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                        • epitome
                          So Fucking Lame
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 12156

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Paul Markham
                          The only way I can help is with a login. Need also to know where the traffic is coming from as well.


                          Originally posted by TheSquealer
                          He needs an username and password to understand how to make the tour convert better and thats "the only way" he can help?

                          I'm no expert, but it looks like someone just wants some gay porn.

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                          • Paul Markham
                            Too old to care
                            • Jun 2001
                            • 52942

                            #14
                            Originally posted by TheSquealer
                            He needs an username and password to understand how to make the tour convert better and thats "the only way" he can help?

                            I'm no expert, but it looks like someone just wants some gay porn.
                            No, my expertise is in content production. I might be able to give some advice on the shooting, maybe some advice on shooting samples to lure surfers to the site?



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                            • TheSquealer
                              Mayor of Thneedville
                              • Oct 2004
                              • 26174

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Paul Markham
                              No, my expertise is in content production. I might be able to give some advice on the shooting, maybe some advice on shooting samples to lure surfers to the site?
                              What is inside the members area has zero to do with conversions.

                              Since the thread is about conversions and improving conversions, you have no real need to be watching guys suck each other off in the members area unless that's just your thing.

                              There's no shame in it.

                              I'm not judging.
                              .
                              Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

                              Rochard

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                              • Paul Markham
                                Too old to care
                                • Jun 2001
                                • 52942

                                #16
                                Looking at this site, http://tour.baretwinks.com/baretwink...LjA#baretwinks

                                Obviously nice twinks, I think.

                                Lots of content.

                                Can't see a sample, why not show just 1 or 2?

                                Looks a bit like shot in a studio, needs more clutter.

                                What I don't see is anything telling me how many many scenes or the total amount of content.

                                Same here. http://www.globeboys.com/tour1/tour2.php? but the boys look so young I guess the guys who want that will buy whatever promised.

                                Is this legal http://www.britishbucks.com/site2257.html http://www.globeboys.com/tour1/2257.php



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                                • Paul Markham
                                  Too old to care
                                  • Jun 2001
                                  • 52942

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                  What is inside the members area has zero to do with conversions.

                                  Since the thread is about conversions and improving conversions, you have no real need to be watching guys suck each other off in the members area unless that's just your thing.

                                  There's no shame in it.

                                  I'm not judging.
                                  Stick to what ever you do, because this isn't it.

                                  Conversions can rely very heavily on samples these days. If the content isn't great, not good. Yet it looks like his stuff is good in terms of pictures, videos we don't know. Also a lot of satisfied customers will return, via links out there or bookmarks. Then there are people talking about his content on forums or to other gay friends. Isn't word of mouth working now?

                                  He asked me and I'm telling him I can only comment on his content. I've looked at the tours and made comments.



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                                  • epitome
                                    So Fucking Lame
                                    • Jun 2009
                                    • 12156

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                    Looking at this site, http://tour.baretwinks.com/baretwink...LjA#baretwinks

                                    Obviously nice twinks, I think.

                                    Lots of content.

                                    Can't see a sample, why not show just 1 or 2?

                                    Looks a bit like shot in a studio, needs more clutter.

                                    What I don't see is anything telling me how many many scenes or the total amount of content.

                                    Same here. http://www.globeboys.com/tour1/tour2.php? but the boys look so young I guess the guys who want that will buy whatever promised.

                                    Is this legal http://www.britishbucks.com/site2257.html http://www.globeboys.com/tour1/2257.php
                                    Yes, Paul it is. If you'll note, the first custodian of records listed is us. We have all docs, as well as the actual content producers, which are also listed as well.

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                                    • GetSCORECash
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                                      • Mar 2008
                                      • 5527

                                      #19
                                      Isn't this in the wrong forum? It should be moved to "The Paul Markham Know-How Forum"
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                                      • Robbie
                                        Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                        • Aug 2002
                                        • 20960

                                        #20
                                        epitome...please have this thread moved to the Paul Markham section.

                                        We don't want anyone to miss the valuable marketing info that is being unleashed by Paul.
                                        -Robbie
                                        ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                                        • epitome
                                          So Fucking Lame
                                          • Jun 2009
                                          • 12156

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                          Looking at this site, http://tour.baretwinks.com/baretwink...LjA#baretwinks

                                          Obviously nice twinks, I think.

                                          Lots of content.

                                          Can't see a sample, why not show just 1 or 2?

                                          Looks a bit like shot in a studio, needs more clutter.
                                          We do not shoot that, that is shot by the owners of the site. Our programs are a mix of owned by us (e.g., GayLifeNetwork.com), owned with others and fully managed for others so they can focus on what they do best, shooting their content.

                                          As for whether to include previews or not, some sites have them, some sites don't. It's all about testing various tours to see what works best with that individual site. Some convert better with previews so they have them. Some convert better without previews so they don't have them. It's all about the analytics.

                                          We are in the middle of updating a lot of tours though. We've perfected one that seems to be magical and are going to further test that theory.

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                                          • epitome
                                            So Fucking Lame
                                            • Jun 2009
                                            • 12156

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by GetSCORECash
                                            Isn't this in the wrong forum? It should be moved to "The Paul Markham Know-How Forum"
                                            Originally posted by Robbie
                                            epitome...please have this thread moved to the Paul Markham section.

                                            We don't want anyone to miss the valuable marketing info that is being unleashed by Paul.
                                            But I need eyeballs on this pressing matter!

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                                            • RyuLion
                                              • Mar 2003
                                              • 32369

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by pornmasta
                                              That's gay


                                              Those are good ratios!

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                                              • Robbie
                                                Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                                • Aug 2002
                                                • 20960

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by epitome
                                                But I need eyeballs on this pressing matter!
                                                Exactly! That's why it needs to be in Paul's forum.

                                                I believe Theo is getting ready to make Paul's section the default log in splash page for all of GFY.
                                                -Robbie
                                                ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                                                • TheSquealer
                                                  Mayor of Thneedville
                                                  • Oct 2004
                                                  • 26174

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                  Stick to what ever you do, because this isn't it.

                                                  Conversions can rely very heavily on samples these days. If the content isn't great, not good. Yet it looks like his stuff is good in terms of pictures, videos we don't know. Also a lot of satisfied customers will return, via links out there or bookmarks. Then there are people talking about his content on forums or to other gay friends. Isn't word of mouth working now?

                                                  He asked me and I'm telling him I can only comment on his content. I've looked at the tours and made comments.
                                                  This isn't it? Paul, you know nothing about paysites, traffic and conversions. Zero. Your sites look like ass and this thread is to make fun of you and the fact that you know nothing about paysites, traffic and conversions. You are so desperate for attention and to pat yourself on the back after flunking out of adult, that you don't even know when you're being made fun of.
                                                  .
                                                  Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

                                                  Rochard

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                                                  • epitome
                                                    So Fucking Lame
                                                    • Jun 2009
                                                    • 12156

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by pornopete
                                                    Oh please give him a login so he can tell us his opinion! please please please!
                                                    No way Jose free porn is why 1:62 is so horrible!

                                                    The most I can give him is a discount link.

                                                    How can we survive if I give a login to a surfer like Paul if we are at 1:62?

                                                    1:62 includes tube traffic. May be where we went wrong? Thoughts?

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                                                    • epitome
                                                      So Fucking Lame
                                                      • Jun 2009
                                                      • 12156

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                                      This isn't it? Paul, you know nothing about paysites, traffic and conversions. Zero. Your sites look like ass and this thread is to make fun of you and the fact that you know nothing about paysites, traffic and conversions. You are so desperate for attention and to pat yourself on the back after flunking out of adult, that you don't even know when you're being made fun of.
                                                      He has to be in on the joke. If he isn't then I have to doubt his ability to wipe his own ass.

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                                                      • TheSquealer
                                                        Mayor of Thneedville
                                                        • Oct 2004
                                                        • 26174

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by epitome
                                                        He has to be in on the joke. If he isn't then I have to doubt his ability to wipe his own ass.
                                                        He's too insecure and still feels he has too much to prove. I'm sure he knows he's being made fun of but his insecurity and desperate need for attention and some sort of validation overrides the fact that he's being made fun of.

                                                        If he can produce mediocre filler content for TGPs, he can wipe his own ass.
                                                        .
                                                        Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

                                                        Rochard

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                                                        • epitome
                                                          So Fucking Lame
                                                          • Jun 2009
                                                          • 12156

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                                          He's too insecure and still feels he has too much to prove. I'm sure he knows he's being made fun of but his insecurity and desperate need for attention and some sort of validation overrides the fact that he's being made fun of.

                                                          If he can produce mediocre filler content for TGPs, he can wipe his own ass.
                                                          All valid points.

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                                                          • KillerK
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • May 2008
                                                            • 3406

                                                            #30
                                                            This thread should be moved to Pauls forum.

                                                            Others could use his expertise on this subject.

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                                                            • alan-l
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • May 2003
                                                              • 2477

                                                              #31
                                                              why the obsession with Paul? He's a joke anyways

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                                                              • seeandsee
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                                                                • 50945

                                                                #32
                                                                this thread is gay, i am out
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                                                                • lagcam
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Jul 2007
                                                                  • 2890

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                                                  ................you don't even know when you're being made fun of.
                                                                  Sad but true and he is probably typing up the bill for consultancy as we speak.
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                                                                  • ilnjscb
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Jun 2009
                                                                    • 8972

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Robbie
                                                                    epitome...please have this thread moved to the Paul Markham section.

                                                                    We don't want anyone to miss the valuable marketing info that is being unleashed by Paul.
                                                                    damn that is funny - no hate for PM that is just funny

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                                                                    • Chosen
                                                                      • Aug 2001
                                                                      • 63151

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by pornmasta
                                                                      That's gay

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                                                                      • beks001
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                                                                        • Oct 2006
                                                                        • 1837

                                                                        #36
                                                                        This thread is silly gay.
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                                                                        • Jakez
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Jan 2004
                                                                          • 5656

                                                                          #37
                                                                          lmfao. There really is a Paul Markham section now. Too funny.
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                                                                          • DamianJ
                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                            • Jul 2006
                                                                            • 15808

                                                                            #38
                                                                            I concur with the people saying to give Paul a pass. His expertise in gay content will surely help you with those shit ratios you've got.

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                                                                            • anexsia
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • May 2010
                                                                              • 5735

                                                                              #39
                                                                              This is a great opportunity for Paul to go from a surfer to an actual webmaster while learning from a successful program.

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                                                                              • Paul Markham
                                                                                Too old to care
                                                                                • Jun 2001
                                                                                • 52942

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                                                                This isn't it? Paul, you know nothing about paysites, traffic and conversions. Zero. Your sites look like ass and this thread is to make fun of you and the fact that you know nothing about paysites, traffic and conversions. You are so desperate for attention and to pat yourself on the back after flunking out of adult, that you don't even know when you're being made fun of.
                                                                                The day the content has nothing to do with conversions, is the day you'll understand the business.

                                                                                What exactly do you do?

                                                                                Originally posted by pornopete
                                                                                come on, just give him the login. It's not going to cost you anything.
                                                                                Anyone wondering why he doesn't?

                                                                                Originally posted by DamianJ
                                                                                I concur with the people saying to give Paul a pass. His expertise in gay content will surely help you with those shit ratios you've got.
                                                                                Shooting techniques change little whether gay or straight. Maybe his content is badly shot Russian teens, no sound, no talking, no lead in, emotion and shot from bad angle. Maybe it's great American boys who do talk and the shooter captures every minute and emotion.

                                                                                Of course what you know about content isn't worth squat.

                                                                                MrBottomTooth yes, which is why I called him out and asked for a pass. Which he will never give me, go figure why.



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                                                                                • DWB
                                                                                  Registered User
                                                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                                                  • 31779

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  sweet stats

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                                                                                  • epitome
                                                                                    So Fucking Lame
                                                                                    • Jun 2009
                                                                                    • 12156

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Paul you're not getting a pass because it was a joke. Don't need or want your advice. You're free to sign up if you need to get off today.

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                                                                                    • ottopottomouse
                                                                                      She is ugly, bad luck.
                                                                                      • Jan 2010
                                                                                      • 13177

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Fantasy ignore list is well and truly fucked today.
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                                                                                      • Paul Markham
                                                                                        Too old to care
                                                                                        • Jun 2001
                                                                                        • 52942

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by pornopete
                                                                                        It still would be interesting to see what feedback he provides. It's not like he's going to rip your site off. Give him 1 day access and let's hear what he has to say.
                                                                                        Does he show samples to surfers?

                                                                                        So why do you think he won't show any to me or in this thread?

                                                                                        So back to the sites I saw and some advice.
                                                                                        The lack of any samples has to lose some surfers. They are simply too wary today. Putting up one sample and leaving it there will do little to hurt and a lot to improve surfer confidence. Leaving the same scene on a site for years means if it's ripped off it's only one scene. And with boys looking this young it will attract a lot of traffic and sign ups. For no cost.

                                                                                        Also some of the settings look like the shooter isn't making much. As Epitome is in the US, I don't think these are US boys. Under fed Russians more like it. Tell the shooter to either rent real apartments or get his studio to look more like an apartment. This is not doing the content justice. Pay him more to set up better settings.

                                                                                        Also it looks like there's a lot of scenes in the site, how many videos, images sets, updates, models, etc. Tell people exactly what they're getting for the $30 a months,

                                                                                        Anyone think showing a sample, the setting of the scenes and telling surfers what they're getting. Is a bad idea, then go tell all the sites that do it, they are wrong.

                                                                                        The joke is rebounding.

                                                                                        But no doubt a lot of no nicks will tell us it's not.



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                                                                                        • Theo
                                                                                          HAL 9000
                                                                                          • May 2001
                                                                                          • 34515

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by Robbie
                                                                                          Exactly! That's why it needs to be in Paul's forum.

                                                                                          I believe Theo is getting ready to make Paul's section the default log in splash page for all of GFY.
                                                                                          Considering it!

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                                                                                          • Paul Markham
                                                                                            Too old to care
                                                                                            • Jun 2001
                                                                                            • 52942

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by AVN Theo
                                                                                            Considering it!
                                                                                            Would be great to bounce all these threads about me over to there. If they want to joke or flame me, they know where to go. Get it off the main forum.



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                                                                                            • Phoenix
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                                                                                              • Nov 2002
                                                                                              • 35475

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              nice sites...keep up the good work
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                                                                                              • Zoxxa
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                                                                                                • Feb 2011
                                                                                                • 1026

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                You all remind me of a group of teenagers at the mall picking on seniors. Ripping on Paul can be entertaining once in awhile but its starting to just make most of you look like childish assholes with nothing better to do.
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