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  • Biggy2
    Confirmed User
    • Feb 2002
    • 1821

    #101
    Originally posted by Vendzilla
    Obama is good with a teleprompter
    He's gotten better without it
    He'll take credit for killing Osama, without mentioning the Seals, like in his speech.
    He'll say Obamacare is going to save billions, even thought according the CBO, 30 million will still be without healthcare, including 6 million that will have to pay a tax to stay out of it, raising 8 billion a year in taxes?
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...ealth-care-ta/
    Then he'll talk about the unemployed, longest time above 8% for any president since the depression.
    Romney's plan I hope is different, because Obama's ain't working too good!
    Romney's health plan for Mass. is working pretty good, maybe he knows something about healthcare?
    Anyways, going to watch them and keep from laughing at the lies
    Romney's healthcare plan for MA is basically the cornerstone of Obama's healthcare plan. Obamacare was literally based off of Romney's healthcare plan in MA. This is fact. So your comments don't really add up, and this is also why you never hear Mitt talk about it. For the 2 days he ran around the campaign crying to repeal Obamacare, he also appeared as the biggest hypocrite of all time, which will be what Obama paints him as, just like what Ted Kennedy did. In Mitt's ideal world, there will be no discussion about healthcare tonight.

    It is impossible to hate on Obamacare, and then praise Mitt Romney's healthcare plan in MA lol. Even the harshest of conservatives admit this.
    Last edited by Biggy2; 10-03-2012, 03:12 PM.

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    • Robbie
      Leaner, Meaner, Faster
      • Aug 2002
      • 20960

      #102
      Originally posted by Rochard
      The only difference between him and someone on welfare is that someone on welfare doesn't have $20k to start a business with.
      You don't know that. Plenty of people out there get hurt and don't do shit. Plenty of people get money from settlements and end up blowing it all on things they want.

      There is a BIG difference between him and a guy on welfare. The guy on welfare isn't working.

      He could have kept his 20 grand and went on the govt. dole. He could've kept his 20 grand and got himself a job as an employee.

      Fuck man...20 grand ain't shit anyway. It's less than the monthly salary I pay myself.

      The difference between him and a guy on welfare is drive, intelligence, and ambition.
      -Robbie
      ClaudiaMarie.Com

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      • DTK
        Confirmed User
        • Feb 2002
        • 4546

        #103
        Originally posted by Robbie
        I agree 100%

        Obama is no different than Bush and Romney is no different than Obama. It's just business as usual.

        http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/
        Sincerely glad you've come around
        Arguing whether the Democratic or Republican party is better is like debating which steaming pile of shit is slightly less stinky.

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        • Robbie
          Leaner, Meaner, Faster
          • Aug 2002
          • 20960

          #104
          Originally posted by Biggy2
          Romney's healthcare plan for MA is basically the cornerstone of Obama's healthcare plan. Obamacare was literally based off of Romney's healthcare plan in MA. This is fact. So your comments don't really add up, and this is also why you never hear Mitt talk about it. For the 2 days he ran around the campaign crying to repeal Obamacare, he also appeared as the biggest hypocrite of all time, which will be what Obama paints him as, just like what Ted Kennedy did. In Mitt's ideal world, there will be no discussion about healthcare tonight.
          Romney has talked about healthcare. He said he will repeal and REPLACE ObamaCare.

          As for hypocrites...there will be two of them onstage tonight. One of them is pandering to his base, but hasn't been the President for the last 4 years,

          The other one is the President of the last 4 years who broke a ton of major campaign promises from last time.
          Whether we are still supposed to believe that 4 years into his Presidency it's "all Bush's fault" or not, there are only two conclusions I can come up with:

          1: After 4 years this is OBAMA'S economy and he is failing.

          2. It's still BUSH'S economy and Obama doesn't know how to fix it.

          More people in poverty NOW. More people on welfare NOW. More people on foodstamps NOW.

          So baby jesus Obama turned out to NOT be the messiah. Romney isn't going to be any different.

          How about taking a look at Gary Johnson? That's who I'm voting for. I registered as a Libertarian at the beginning of the week.
          I'm sick of Republicans and Democrats.

          We just keep doing the same things over and over and expecting a different result. I got fooled by Obama and voted for him in 2008 thinking it was "hope and change" It turned out to be "more of the same"
          -Robbie
          ClaudiaMarie.Com

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          • Biggy2
            Confirmed User
            • Feb 2002
            • 1821

            #105
            Originally posted by Robbie
            Romney has talked about healthcare. He said he will repeal and REPLACE ObamaCare.

            As for hypocrites...there will be two of them onstage tonight. One of them is pandering to his base, but hasn't been the President for the last 4 years,

            The other one is the President of the last 4 years who broke a ton of major campaign promises from last time.
            Whether we are still supposed to believe that 4 years into his Presidency it's "all Bush's fault" or not, there are only two conclusions I can come up with:

            1: After 4 years this is OBAMA'S economy and he is failing.

            2. It's still BUSH'S economy and Obama doesn't know how to fix it.

            More people in poverty NOW. More people on welfare NOW. More people on foodstamps NOW.

            So baby jesus Obama turned out to NOT be the messiah. Romney isn't going to be any different.

            How about taking a look at Gary Johnson? That's who I'm voting for. I registered as a Libertarian at the beginning of the week.
            I'm sick of Republicans and Democrats.

            We just keep doing the same things over and over and expecting a different result. I got fooled by Obama and voted for him in 2008 thinking it was "hope and change" It turned out to be "more of the same"
            I could vote for Gary Johnson, but I live in California so it won't matter, nor do I care much for politics except to look on as an observer. I'd be fine with either guy as president truth be told, because I think as a whole, we are fucked anyways. A president can't fix a slowdown in China, or the european debt crisis, which are ahead of domestic fiscal policy in why the economy sucks. Only fools think a president or singular man can fix a global economy. If we hadn't spent the last 20 years borrowing and spending, then that would be at our finger tips as a short term solution, but I guess we all see how well that did for us!

            I just love it when people who care passionately about politics, spew out the regurgitated shit of campaign messages, without spotting the hypocrisy of the message, or the fact they don't even understand their own facts.

            Another interesting tidbit, polling (for what its worth), shows that how it is going into debate season is usually is what it is coming out and time for the election. And if Romney doesn't win Ohio, he's not winning the election, and Ohio loves Obama's auto bailout.\

            And regarding Obamacare and Romney, whatever Romney says, Obama will bring up that is was modelled after his own plan. This is fact, and one in which even the most ardent supporters of Romney who understand what they are talking about do not deny. If youre talking about Obamacare, you are talking about Mitt Romney's healthcare plan as the same. They are for the most part, the same. OOPS!
            Last edited by Biggy2; 10-03-2012, 03:30 PM.

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            • DTK
              Confirmed User
              • Feb 2002
              • 4546

              #106
              Originally posted by Biggy2
              I just love it when people who care passionately about politics, spew out the regurgitated shit of campaign messages, without spotting the hypocrisy of the message, or the fact they don't even understand their own facts.
              This drives me absolutely batshit crazy. People too fucking lazy to do their own fact-checking, which is incredibly easy to do nowadays. But hey, it's a hell of a lot easier to just regurgitate what some shill says instead of thinking things through themselves.

              Anyone who takes just a little time will see that the dems/reps have been selling this country out to huge money interests for the last 30+ years.
              Last edited by DTK; 10-03-2012, 03:33 PM.
              Arguing whether the Democratic or Republican party is better is like debating which steaming pile of shit is slightly less stinky.

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              • Robbie
                Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                • Aug 2002
                • 20960

                #107
                Originally posted by Biggy2
                I could vote for Gary Johnson, but I live in California so it won't mattert.
                That's what I always thought.

                That if I didn't vote Republican or Democrat I "wasted my vote"

                Guess what? I wasted it anyway. I voted for Bush and he won...but I still wasted my vote. I voted for Obama and he won...but I still wasted my vote.

                I was looking at it like they were sports team and my "side" "won".

                But it's not so. I "won" and the country still lost. And keeps losing while those thieves in Washington get richer and richer.

                This time I'm not going to "waste" my vote. I'm going to vote for the right guy and for the right reasons. I'm not going to think of it like it's a football game anymore.
                This will be my first vote that is NOT wasted. Isn't that what Democracy is supposed to be? Not voting for your "side" but voting for the person you think is the best person for the job.
                -Robbie
                ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                • directfiesta
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 30135

                  #108
                  Originally posted by Robbie

                  Fuck man...20 grand ain't shit anyway. It's less than the monthly salary I pay myself.

                  .
                  Please !!!! Cut the BS...

                  Do I need to search for your thread not so long ago about your balances on your credit cards ????

                  I don't make/pay 20K a month ... I maybe do ( with my real estate investment - read rents ) 9-10 k a month ... but have 2 mortgages ...

                  On the other hand, on 30K of available credit , I have maybe 2000.00 on aingle card that are the current charges.

                  So again, quit the BS ...
                  I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                  But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                  • DTK
                    Confirmed User
                    • Feb 2002
                    • 4546

                    #109
                    Originally posted by Robbie
                    This time I'm not going to "waste" my vote. I'm going to vote for the right guy and for the right reasons. I'm not going to think of it like it's a football game anymore.
                    This will be my first vote that is NOT wasted. Isn't that what Democracy is supposed to be? Not voting for your "side" but voting for the person you think is the best person for the job.
                    Very well said, Robbie. The football game analogy is perfect.

                    That whole 'wasting your vote' line is just another trick to keep people locked into the two worthless party system. You're never wasting your vote if your voting your beliefs.

                    The people who are really wasting their votes are the vast majority who blindly vote dem or rep.
                    Last edited by DTK; 10-03-2012, 03:51 PM.
                    Arguing whether the Democratic or Republican party is better is like debating which steaming pile of shit is slightly less stinky.

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                    • kane
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Aug 2001
                      • 20684

                      #110
                      Originally posted by Robbie
                      That's what I always thought.

                      That if I didn't vote Republican or Democrat I "wasted my vote"

                      Guess what? I wasted it anyway. I voted for Bush and he won...but I still wasted my vote. I voted for Obama and he won...but I still wasted my vote.

                      I was looking at it like they were sports team and my "side" "won".

                      But it's not so. I "won" and the country still lost. And keeps losing while those thieves in Washington get richer and richer.

                      This time I'm not going to "waste" my vote. I'm going to vote for the right guy and for the right reasons. I'm not going to think of it like it's a football game anymore.
                      This will be my first vote that is NOT wasted. Isn't that what Democracy is supposed to be? Not voting for your "side" but voting for the person you think is the best person for the job.
                      If enough people who were fed up with both parties voted for a third party candidate that candidate could get enough of the vote that they would be allowed into the debates and their party would get matching funds for future elections. They could start to build another party that, at the very least, would force the other two to be a little more accountable and if this third party were good enough it might be able to elect some people into different offices.

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                      • Robbie
                        Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 20960

                        #111
                        Originally posted by directfiesta
                        Please !!!! Cut the BS...

                        Do I need to search for your thread not so long ago about your balances on your credit cards ????

                        I don't make/pay 20K a month ... I maybe do ( with my real estate investment - read rents ) 9-10 k a month ... but have 2 mortgages ...

                        On the other hand, on 30K of available credit , I have maybe 2000.00 on aingle card that are the current charges.

                        So again, quit the BS ...
                        Search away brother. I have HUGE bills. How do you think I pay them? With the 25K a month I pay myself. Is that really a lot of money to you? I was making around 80 grand a month well into 2009 as piracy started destroying my income as an affiliate.

                        I currently have one platinum biz AMEX with $19,100 balance on it, one with $2700 balance on it (that one has to be paid in full at the end of each month, one Macy's Amex with $4300 balance on it, and then a bunch of other cards (Victoria Secrets Angel card, Old Navy card, Target card, etc.) with varying balances on them.

                        What does any of that have to do with this conversation? I don't need to "BS" anybody. Come to Vegas. I'll have you over to the house, show you my office, show you what I do here, show you my stats remote numbers, etc.

                        I don't have anything to hide.
                        Last edited by Robbie; 10-03-2012, 04:23 PM.
                        -Robbie
                        ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                        • Rochard
                          Jägermeister Test Pilot
                          • Dec 2001
                          • 75733

                          #112
                          Originally posted by Robbie

                          There is a BIG difference between him and a guy on welfare. The guy on welfare isn't working.
                          Your, huge diffrence. The guy on welfare also doesn't have $20k in his pocket.
                          Herschel Savage
                          Brooklyn, NY

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                          • Robbie
                            Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 20960

                            #113
                            Originally posted by Rochard
                            Your, huge diffrence. The guy on welfare also doesn't have $20k in his pocket.
                            Why does the guy on Welfare need 20K? He didnt' get hurt badly. He's just not working.

                            You are stretching for this aren't you? If it's so goddamn easy to be successful...then WHY aren't all the people who get hurt and get settlements every year all running successful businesses because of their incredible "luck" at getting hurt?

                            And do people need 20k in their pocket to get off their ass and go to work? Nothing stopping the guy on welfare (considering that he is healthy) from doing SOMETHING other than collect welfare.

                            You can't seriously believe what you are saying do you?
                            Last edited by Robbie; 10-03-2012, 04:32 PM.
                            -Robbie
                            ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                            • Dirty Dane
                              Sick Fuck
                              • Feb 2004
                              • 9491

                              #114
                              I miss Bush.

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                              • theking
                                Nice Kitty
                                • Sep 2002
                                • 21053

                                #115
                                Originally posted by Robbie
                                Search away brother. I have HUGE bills. How do you think I pay them? With the 25K a month I pay myself. Is that really a lot of money to you? I was making around 80 grand a month well into 2009 as piracy started destroying my income as an affiliate.

                                I currently have one platinum biz AMEX with $19,100 balance on it, one with $2700 balance on it (that one has to be paid in full at the end of each month, one Macy's Amex with $4300 balance on it, and then a bunch of other cards (Victoria Secrets Angel card, Old Navy card, Target card, etc.) with varying balances on them.

                                What does any of that have to do with this conversation? I don't need to "BS" anybody. Come to Vegas. I'll have you over to the house, show you my office, show you what I do here, show you my stats remote numbers, etc.

                                I don't have anything to hide.
                                Just out of curiosity what was your 2011 annual gross income from porn? Is your gross income from porn projected to be approximately the same...less or more...for 2012?
                                Last edited by theking; 10-03-2012, 04:42 PM.
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                                • Donny Cybersocket
                                  Registered User
                                  • Feb 2012
                                  • 95

                                  #116
                                  Originally posted by B.Barnato
                                  Speaking as a free European however, my picture of Romney might be skewed and only his mishaps have filtered through to me. His brilliance may only have been disclosed to the privileged voters in the US of A.
                                  I live in the USA and I have not seen this "brilliance" you speak off. He is a total tool. We probably just get to see more of his tool-ishness then you do
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                                  • Grapesoda
                                    So Fucking Banned
                                    • Jul 2003
                                    • 46238

                                    #117
                                    Originally posted by SuckOnThis
                                    Sorry but they don't 'offer' (whatever that means) food stamps and welfare to people who just collected a 20k settlement. Not to mention a 100% disability would bring in a hell of a lot more than 20k, I collected 26k in 1992 for a 6% workmans comp disability.
                                    I was told I could pull my social security retirement about 900-1200 a month food stamps etc... welfare in my mind. I think lawsuits are not considered income. after lawyers expenses and advance to survive on I got around 20k. the porcess went on for 2 years.

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                                    • BFT3K
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Dec 2005
                                      • 10764

                                      #118
                                      The Debate Begins...

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                                      • 2MuchMark
                                        Mark of 2Much.net
                                        • Aug 2004
                                        • 50977

                                        #119
                                        Originally posted by Rochard
                                        Who is going to win the Presidential Debate and why...
                                        Debate is starting right now... can't wait to see Romney get his ass handed to him.

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                                        • Grapesoda
                                          So Fucking Banned
                                          • Jul 2003
                                          • 46238

                                          #120
                                          Originally posted by Rochard
                                          Your right. Lots of people get handed money. All those people on welfare and unemployment... They are just waiting until that big pay day.

                                          Explain to me how you went from 100% disabled to suddenly being able to work full time (plus)?
                                          it's my shoulders. unable to perform the duties for my career. then when I was in training for computers I needed both elbows operated on, ulnar retractions.

                                          it was EXTREMELY painful to shoot in fact I was shooting the day after an operation when was told specifically not too... the stitches popped open, a real mess. very very VERY painful. but Richard I had kid to take care off... right now I'm shooting with a torn bicep... that hurts like a mother fucker as well....

                                          going to therapy few times a week trying to build the muscle around the tear so I don't need surgery... hurts so bad sometimes I can't sleep at night. no shit. right now I'm only working about 50 hours a week though.

                                          I'd like to think you'd do whatever you needed to do to take care of your family... maybe not...

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                                          • Grapesoda
                                            So Fucking Banned
                                            • Jul 2003
                                            • 46238

                                            #121
                                            Originally posted by Rochard
                                            Yeah, because, you know, I've never never shot content by day and then worked on websites all night long.
                                            I shot for you guys before

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                                            • Grapesoda
                                              So Fucking Banned
                                              • Jul 2003
                                              • 46238

                                              #122
                                              Originally posted by Rochard
                                              I'm not saying it's a bad thing that he got hurt and climbed up out of his hole - Good for him. I've been there and done that myself.

                                              My thing is that he's saying "he's an earner" and that he didn't need "government help" to crawl out of his hole. Seems to me like he considers himself an "earner" and not "lazy and on welfare". The only difference between him and someone on welfare is that someone on welfare doesn't have $20k to start a business with.
                                              I'm an earner. take it or leave it, doesn't change the facts.

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                                              • Grapesoda
                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                • Jul 2003
                                                • 46238

                                                #123
                                                Originally posted by Robbie
                                                You don't know that. Plenty of people out there get hurt and don't do shit. Plenty of people get money from settlements and end up blowing it all on things they want.

                                                There is a BIG difference between him and a guy on welfare. The guy on welfare isn't working.

                                                He could have kept his 20 grand and went on the govt. dole. He could've kept his 20 grand and got himself a job as an employee.

                                                Fuck man...20 grand ain't shit anyway. It's less than the monthly salary I pay myself.

                                                The difference between him and a guy on welfare is drive, intelligence, and ambition.
                                                thanks Robbie... group hug

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                                                • Grapesoda
                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                  • 46238

                                                  #124
                                                  Originally posted by Robbie
                                                  Why does the guy on Welfare need 20K? He didnt' get hurt badly. He's just not working.

                                                  You are stretching for this aren't you? If it's so goddamn easy to be successful...then WHY aren't all the people who get hurt and get settlements every year all running successful businesses because of their incredible "luck" at getting hurt?

                                                  And do people need 20k in their pocket to get off their ass and go to work? Nothing stopping the guy on welfare (considering that he is healthy) from doing SOMETHING other than collect welfare.

                                                  You can't seriously believe what you are saying do you?
                                                  Richard in your position right now, lose EVERYTHING except 20K cash. no health ins, no retierment, no collage fund, not a fucking thing except 20k cash and an offer of 900-1200 a month and food stamps... what would you do? how long will your ship float on 20K?

                                                  you have this weird idea like 20K is a lot of cash, like winning the lotto for millons. get real, I pay WAY more than 20K per month on model fees
                                                  Last edited by Grapesoda; 10-03-2012, 05:17 PM.

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                                                  • DTK
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Feb 2002
                                                    • 4546

                                                    #125
                                                    What a snoozer. Not sure why i bothered listening to these 2 corporate lackeys, but can i have the last hour and a half of my life back?
                                                    Arguing whether the Democratic or Republican party is better is like debating which steaming pile of shit is slightly less stinky.

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                                                    • directfiesta
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                      • 30135

                                                      #126
                                                      Originally posted by DTK
                                                      What a snoozer. Not sure why i bothered listening to these 2 corporate lackeys, but can i have the last hour and a half of my life back?
                                                      Biden / Ryan will be more interesting ....

                                                      This 1st debate gave nothing .
                                                      I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                      But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                      • looky_lou
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Mar 2003
                                                        • 1771

                                                        #127
                                                        Did you watch the same debate I did?



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                                                        • Robbie
                                                          Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                          • 20960

                                                          #128
                                                          Originally posted by theking
                                                          Just out of curiosity what was your 2011 annual gross income from porn? Is your gross income from porn projected to be approximately the same...less or more...for 2012?
                                                          Around $2,000 a month less.

                                                          Which is a "victory" when I see the stats on my affiliate work...piracy has completely destroyed that end of my business. If it weren't for cams and dating I wouldn't have much affiliate money left anymore because I damn sure can't sell a paysite membership anymore to all these sites with their members areas available for free.
                                                          -Robbie
                                                          ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                                                          • baddog
                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                            • Apr 2001
                                                            • 107089

                                                            #129
                                                            You can sure tell who wanted Obama to win it.

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                                                            • BFT3K
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                                                              • Dec 2005
                                                              • 10764

                                                              #130
                                                              Obama looked weak in tonight's debate, no question.

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                                                              • baddog
                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                • Apr 2001
                                                                • 107089

                                                                #131
                                                                Originally posted by Black All Through
                                                                It's amazing how old people believe anything thats said
                                                                So, I guess old people score again. Democrats were right, Romney kicked Obama's ass.

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                                                                • campimp
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Jan 2007
                                                                  • 1340

                                                                  #132
                                                                  Originally posted by Robbie
                                                                  What does any of that have to do with this conversation? I don't need to "BS" anybody. Come to Vegas. I'll have you over to the house, show you my office, show you what I do here, show you my stats remote numbers, etc.

                                                                  I don't have anything to hide.
                                                                  next time im in vegas i know where im coming to party

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                                                                  • Relentless
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                                                                    • Aug 2006
                                                                    • 5697

                                                                    #133
                                                                    Very big win for mitt, if he didn't win tonight he was probably done. He won by dodging his own record, saying things that aren't true and not getting called on it by Obama. All sadly good traits for a modern politician, and horrible indicators of where our country is headed under either candidate.


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                                                                    • buzzard
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                                      • 1276

                                                                      #134
                                                                      Hey all you "A" point arguers... Hahaha The Global elites aren't about all that.
                                                                      You're being HAD by the elite globalists no matter how many "A" points you spew.

                                                                      Why don't you insist on the "THE Point". The Constitution

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                                                                      • Vendzilla
                                                                        Biker Gnome
                                                                        • Mar 2004
                                                                        • 23200

                                                                        #135
                                                                        Originally posted by Biggy2
                                                                        Romney's healthcare plan for MA is basically the cornerstone of Obama's healthcare plan. Obamacare was literally based off of Romney's healthcare plan in MA. This is fact. So your comments don't really add up, and this is also why you never hear Mitt talk about it. For the 2 days he ran around the campaign crying to repeal Obamacare, he also appeared as the biggest hypocrite of all time, which will be what Obama paints him as, just like what Ted Kennedy did. In Mitt's ideal world, there will be no discussion about healthcare tonight.

                                                                        It is impossible to hate on Obamacare, and then praise Mitt Romney's healthcare plan in MA lol. Even the harshest of conservatives admit this.
                                                                        Romney wants the states to run it, that seems to be the big difference, less federal government.
                                                                        I loved during the speech as Obama praised Reagan and Lincoln, both Republicans

                                                                        And everytime I heard Obama ask Mitt, whats the plan? I remembered Pelosi saying, we'll find out what's in it after we vote for it
                                                                        Last edited by Vendzilla; 10-03-2012, 09:28 PM.
                                                                        Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                        think about that

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                                                                        • buzzard
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                                          • 1276

                                                                          #136
                                                                          Originally posted by MarkPrince
                                                                          Debate is starting right now... can't wait to see Romney get his ass handed to him.
                                                                          Didn't watch but sounds like on here, that really panned out?

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                                                                          • baddog
                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                            • Apr 2001
                                                                            • 107089

                                                                            #137
                                                                            Originally posted by buzzard
                                                                            Didn't watch but sounds like on here, that really panned out?
                                                                            Prince is clueless on American politics, which was displayed with that post.

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                                                                            • baddog
                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                              • Apr 2001
                                                                              • 107089

                                                                              #138

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                                                                              • BlackCrayon
                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                • Jun 2003
                                                                                • 19634

                                                                                #139
                                                                                Originally posted by Robbie
                                                                                And what would he have done if he hadn't had air to breath, or the sun shining?

                                                                                What a ridiculous question.

                                                                                Anybody on here who has actually busted their ass and made something for themselves is ridiculed. A definite sign of the time in our sorry ass society.
                                                                                no but some like yourself basically say that you're a loser piece of shit if you can't do it. i just thought it was funny that he said he did it with nothing but oh wait he had 20k capital to start up and keep him going in the meantime. something most people do not have. i've done it myself time and time again but i don't feel i am above those who tried and failed or those who prefer to work for someone else.
                                                                                Last edited by BlackCrayon; 10-04-2012, 07:41 AM.
                                                                                you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                                                                • sperbonzo
                                                                                  I'd rather be on my boat.
                                                                                  • May 2003
                                                                                  • 9750

                                                                                  #140
                                                                                  Originally posted by DTK
                                                                                  Too bad they won't let Gary Johnson participate...we'd actually have some real truth-telling going on.
                                                                                  BINGO!!!!





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                                                                                  • DWB
                                                                                    Registered User
                                                                                    • Jul 2003
                                                                                    • 31779

                                                                                    #141
                                                                                    Originally posted by Robbie
                                                                                    Around $2,000 a month less.

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                                                                                    Rubbish. You just need to give away longer videos.

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                                                                                    • Rochard
                                                                                      Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                                                                      • Dec 2001
                                                                                      • 75733

                                                                                      #142
                                                                                      Originally posted by Grapesoda
                                                                                      it's my shoulders. unable to perform the duties for my career. then when I was in training for computers I needed both elbows operated on, ulnar retractions.

                                                                                      it was EXTREMELY painful to shoot in fact I was shooting the day after an operation when was told specifically not too... the stitches popped open, a real mess. very very VERY painful. but Richard I had kid to take care off... right now I'm shooting with a torn bicep... that hurts like a mother fucker as well....

                                                                                      going to therapy few times a week trying to build the muscle around the tear so I don't need surgery... hurts so bad sometimes I can't sleep at night. no shit. right now I'm only working about 50 hours a week though.

                                                                                      I'd like to think you'd do whatever you needed to do to take care of your family... maybe not...
                                                                                      So you were never 100% disabled. You were temporarily disabled. Then you went back to work.

                                                                                      My friend is 100% disabled. He has Hydrocephalus (commonly called "Water on the brain"). He has good days and bad days. On good days he functions like a normal adult. On bad days he's rushed to the ER because the pressure on his brain is so great he is unable to communicate no less respond. I went with him to most of the doctor visits and VA hearings about his medical condition; Originally he was considered 20% disabled, then 60%, then 80%, then 100%. And it was a ten year process to get to that point.

                                                                                      My wife hurt her shoulder at work also, and was disability for nearly a year. She had an operation, and received a nice healthy paycheck too. But it was a far cry from being 100% disabled. Being 100% disabled is something you NEVER recover from.

                                                                                      I'm glad you were able to recover. Hit me up on ICQ so we can chat.
                                                                                      Herschel Savage
                                                                                      Brooklyn, NY

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                                                                                      • Rochard
                                                                                        Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                                                                        • Dec 2001
                                                                                        • 75733

                                                                                        #143
                                                                                        Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                        So, I guess old people score again. Democrats were right, Romney kicked Obama's ass.
                                                                                        Yep yep, Romney pretty much kicked his ass.

                                                                                        The truth is Obama promised a number of things four years ago, and has failed to deliver. However, that is the nature of politics - Politicians make big promises. And I honestly believe that each and every one of them try their best to keep their promises. Most fail.

                                                                                        One of the things that makes this so difficult is we are talking about important and complex; They cannot be solved in two minute sound bites. And I have yet to hear Romney's plan for anything.
                                                                                        Herschel Savage
                                                                                        Brooklyn, NY

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                                                                                        • MattPornerBros
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Sep 2012
                                                                                          • 186

                                                                                          #144

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                                                                                          • DWB
                                                                                            Registered User
                                                                                            • Jul 2003
                                                                                            • 31779

                                                                                            #145
                                                                                            Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                                            Yep yep, Romney pretty much kicked his ass.

                                                                                            The truth is Obama promised a number of things four years ago, and has failed to deliver. However, that is the nature of politics - Politicians make big promises. And I honestly believe that each and every one of them try their best to keep their promises. Most fail.

                                                                                            One of the things that makes this so difficult is we are talking about important and complex; They cannot be solved in two minute sound bites. And I have yet to hear Romney's plan for anything.
                                                                                            I watched about 1/2 of it today on Youtube and agree, Romney was a much better lair than Obama was. Obama was a bit of a mess. Guess that's what happens when you're used to reading from a teleprompter and you're given prizes for doing nothing.

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                                                                                            • CDSmith
                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                              • May 2001
                                                                                              • 51460

                                                                                              #146
                                                                                              Originally posted by Verbal
                                                                                              Democrats will say Obama won and Republicans will say Romney.
                                                                                              Damn, that was some fine predicting there.

                                                                                              You = psychic.



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                                                                                              • baddog
                                                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                • Apr 2001
                                                                                                • 107089

                                                                                                #147
                                                                                                Originally posted by CDSmith
                                                                                                Damn, that was some fine predicting there.

                                                                                                You = psychic.
                                                                                                I'd say #psychicfail, even most dems say Obama lost. Hell even the dems on GFY say so.

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                                                                                                • CDSmith
                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                  • May 2001
                                                                                                  • 51460

                                                                                                  #148
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Dirty Dane
                                                                                                  I miss Bush.
                                                                                                  I miss Clinton. The fun days of when the pres had to explain his drug use while fondling the help and playing the saxaphone, the USD stronger than ever.

                                                                                                  You guys need another fun president.
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                                                                                                  • CDSmith
                                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                    • May 2001
                                                                                                    • 51460

                                                                                                    #149
                                                                                                    Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                                    I'd say #psychicfail, even most dems say Obama lost. Hell even the dems on GFY say so.
                                                                                                    My sarcasm too subtle for you today Lloyd? :D
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                                                                                                    • AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
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                                                                                                      • Jul 2004
                                                                                                      • 38323

                                                                                                      #150




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