did your sales go flat 2 days ago when you hit your weekly allowed quota

[SwirlsGirl]

You know what I am talking about....that baseline number that you get week in and week out...or month in and month out where you hit a ceiling on your revenue.

You know no matter what efforts you take you cannot get over a certain amount of form submissions...or certain amount of signups....

There is nothing you can do to get over that hump. The hump is there for a reason and it is to remind you that you cannot get over it. double and triple your traffic...you will not traverse that hump.

Double and triple your affiliates...you will not get over that hump.

Don't get me wrong...you will be rewarded a few peanuts each week...and the peanuts will be on time and never late....

F= Fail

[Sly]

I believe the CCBill cap is 21 sales this week.

[geedub]

Totally capped at 21 sales right now, can't wait for Monday

[Sly]

Tip: Call Rocco in sales and if you send him some chocolate chip cookies he will raise your limit to 27 sales for the week. Just that week though.

[Mutt]

[epitome]

I believe the CCBill cap is 21 sales this week.

Seems like 28 this week. You must not have the right connections.

[12clicks]

no, my sales are fine. no complaints

[Mutt]

You know what I am talking about....that baseline number that you get week in and week out...or month in and month out where you hit a ceiling on your revenue.

You know no matter what efforts you take you cannot get over a certain amount of form submissions...or certain amount of signups....

There is nothing you can do to get over that hump. The hump is there for a reason and it is to remind you that you cannot get over it. double and triple your traffic...you will not traverse that hump.

Double and triple your affiliates...you will not get over that hump.

Don't get me wrong...you will be rewarded a few peanuts each week...and the peanuts will be on time and never late....

F= Fail

you truly are an idiot, there is a hump you can't get over and that hump is YOU - what would you know about doubling or tripling your affiliates? from 3 to 6? more traffic is meaningless when it's garbage traffic.

my CCBILL sales go up and they go down - when I launch a new site and have lots of good traffic the sales rain down - there's no CCBILL ceiling. when the site is no longer new it settles into what it will do over the long haul, a couple times a month it breaks out of the pattern and sales are much higher than average or much lower than average.

[SwirlsGirl]

I believe the CCBill cap is 21 sales this week.

no fucking shit....that is too close for comfort...my sales stopped exactly on that number too this week!!!!

great to know it is all my imagination...LOL

[SwirlsGirl]

are your form submissions for the week below 10%....if so then you could be in the minority as a ccbill rep told us days ago that the average form submit percentage for the week is 50% for most clients.

whose ass must one kiss...to get elite form submission stats of 50% or better?

Not saying that we would kiss any ass for those stats as we should not have to...but whose ass is it just so we know?

Just saying if 50% is normal form submissions for most clients then there has got to be a reason that they see 50% as a consistent average? What are they doing that is so different?

Are they supplying steady traffic to join form? Are they updating, are they offering creative and unique tours...

are they sucking penis...are they ?? What is the formula?

[Barefootsies]

no, my sales are fine. no complaints

[Markul]

Why would a processor that earns money from processing payment, stop processing payments for their merchants after X transactions on a monthly basis? If you truly believe that, test it, then sue them or swap to a different processor.

[shake]

Exactly 21 here too

[LeRoy]

How many hits to the join page?

[CurrentlySober]

i have enjoyed a lot of toilet activity...

[pornmasta]

You know no matter what efforts you take you cannot get over a certain amount of form submissions...or certain amount of signups....

i feel the same thing

[pornguy]

Kind of cracks me up to read these threads. yeah I get frustrated when things seem stuck in a rut and then instead of complaining about them I fix them and get them moving again.

If ccbill is not cutting it for you, promote other than them. If you use them as your processor pick up a cascade. CCbill does to several other companies

Lots of options but the best option is going back to the tried and true Hard work.

[the Shemp]

You know what I am talking about....that baseline number that you get week in and week out...or month in and month out where you hit a ceiling on your revenue.

You know no matter what efforts you take you cannot get over a certain amount of form submissions...or certain amount of signups....

There is nothing you can do to get over that hump. The hump is there for a reason and it is to remind you that you cannot get over it. double and triple your traffic...you will not traverse that hump.

Double and triple your affiliates...you will not get over that hump.

Don't get me wrong...you will be rewarded a few peanuts each week...and the peanuts will be on time and never late....

F= Fail

send me $50.00 and i'll buy a membership...see if it shows up on your stats...

[Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE]

You know what I am talking about....that baseline number that you get week in and week out...or month in and month out where you hit a ceiling on your revenue.

You know no matter what efforts you take you cannot get over a certain amount of form submissions...or certain amount of signups....

There is nothing you can do to get over that hump. The hump is there for a reason and it is to remind you that you cannot get over it. double and triple your traffic...you will not traverse that hump.

Double and triple your affiliates...you will not get over that hump.

Don't get me wrong...you will be rewarded a few peanuts each week...and the peanuts will be on time and never late....

F= Fail

Bitch's right

[bigluv]

You and johnny clips should get together.

[Penny24Seven]

I have said for years if you have someone join my site to test it let me know and I will refund the transaction but the people in this thread seem like it would just be another excuse anyway lol

[Forest]

I have a Platinum account so I get 36 sales a week

[spunky99]

yes cuz thats how a company like ccbill stays in business..

[Bladewire]

There is nothing you can do to get over that hump. The hump is there for a reason and it is to remind you that you cannot get over it. double and triple your traffic...you will not traverse that hump. Double and triple your affiliates...you will not get over that hump.

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Might I suggest a new mantra?

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You have the ability to overcome obstacles.
The negative mantras you empower lose strength as every passing
moment you realize the answers you seek to move forward are within your reach.

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[Fenris Wolf]

Sent you an email about your other thread. Let me know anytime if you want to test out my offer. Email in my sig.

[mineistaken]

slightly OT, but what do you do with full length content of yours on tubes (xhamster, tnaflix tube etc)? I assume its stolen. Taking that content down may help your bottom line a little.

[PTB-Media]

Why would a processor that earns money from processing payment, stop processing payments for their merchants after X transactions on a monthly basis? If you truly believe that, test it, then sue them or swap to a different processor.

http://gfy.com/images/icons/xyxthumbs.gif

Test everything twice, That's a good rule
and first of all stop using ccbill if you want to make real money in this business!

[Sly]

Sara, a serious thought.

If you do truly believe that CCBill is capping your sales, why don't you get a secondary processor (Epoch) and activate them when you reach your CCBill cap? This is very easy to do. Alternatively, you could do a 50-50 split all week long where 50% of your traffic goes to CCBill and 50% goes to Epoch. This would also help eliminate your capping issue.

[mineistaken]

Sara, a serious thought.

If you do truly believe that CCBill is capping your sales, why don't you get a secondary processor (Epoch) and activate them when you reach your CCBill cap? This is very easy to do. Alternatively, you could do a 50-50 split all week long where 50% of your traffic goes to CCBill and 50% goes to Epoch. This would also help eliminate your capping issue.

And if her affiliate is ccbill affiliate will he get credit when she switches to epoch instead of ccbil for the day or week?

[mineistaken]

and first of all stop using ccbill if you want to make real money in this business!

Elaborate. Are you refering to the fact that ccbil does not let some sales go through?
Yes. However if you leave ccbill you lose many affiliates. So you have to consider which is better: better processing with less affiliates (and traffic) or worse processing but with more affiliates to cover the losses of not processed customers. Most likely not only to cover the losses but also you would come out on top (in terms of total revenue)

[SBJ]

And if her affiliate is ccbill affiliate will he get credit when she switches to epoch instead of ccbil for the day or week?

yes as long as it is set up as a cascade though ccbill

21 is the magic number?? odd I guess ccbill forgot to shut me off 2 or 3 days ago?

c'mon man! go out and get a real job if all you are going to do is complain about lack of sales

[Sly]

And if her affiliate is ccbill affiliate will he get credit when she switches to epoch instead of ccbil for the day or week?

Yeh, that's easy to do.

[PTB-Media]

Elaborate. Are you refering to the fact that ccbil does not let some sales go through?
Yes. However if you leave ccbill you lose many affiliates. So you have to consider which is better: better processing with less affiliates (and traffic) or worse processing but with more affiliates to cover the losses of not processed customers. Most likely not only to cover the losses but also you would come out on top (in terms of total revenue)

For us we moved away from CCbill then in the end away from 3ed party all together. My opinion on CCbill was that it was more of a pain in the ass to micro manage then it was worth and paying 15% for processing is simply too high. The hour that i would wait for CCbills 1990's admin to load a report was better time spent talking to my affiliates and digging up the traffic you need to make a good program. Yes some affiliates like getting paid by CCbill directly but in MY OPINION there are lots of affiliate programs that don't miss payments and are stable to work with. You have to have analytics on everything and ccbill reports just don't give you what you need in a fast and effective manor and then they charge you more to do it. (just my opinion...whatever that is worth) I haven't used CCbill in about a year or so...maybe somethings have changed but i doubt it. However i still receive my re-bill checks on time every week.

[bean-aid]

And if her affiliate is ccbill affiliate will he get credit when she switches to epoch instead of ccbil for the day or week?

Yes, they will. We would use sliiing to track sales. Affiliates don't need to replace a single code and all sales are tracked.

Sara, give me a call tomorrow. Want to go over something.

[Far-L]

Elaborate. Are you refering to the fact that ccbil does not let some sales go through?
Yes. However if you leave ccbill you lose many affiliates. So you have to consider which is better: better processing with less affiliates (and traffic) or worse processing but with more affiliates to cover the losses of not processed customers. Most likely not only to cover the losses but also you would come out on top (in terms of total revenue)

Respectfully disagree.

First off, what the other poster said is true, and I will elaborate. CCbill charges way more for processing. Many folks don't realize that getting ones own merch account pays for itself quickly and becomes far more profitable per transaction, even if you still have to factor in service fees, etc.

Also, you can set some sites up to use CCbill for the affiliates that blindly believe CCbill is somehow superior and fraud free, even though that is delusional, but in my experience, most of the "whales" want PPS from companies that own their own merch account because the profit margin per sale is higher and the program can usually offer higher payouts accordingly; however, why not offer both a ccbill and a non ccbill option?

What amazes me is this... people hold CCbill up as this great end all-be all of legit processing options, but then question the scrub and wonder about sign up limits. Does not make sense to me at all.

[BIGTYMER]

[Paul Markham]

The porn industry is going through hard time. Come and tell us what you think. http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1082442

[Dirty F]

no fucking shit....that is too close for comfort...my sales stopped exactly on that number too this week!!!!

great to know it is all my imagination...LOL

God, you are truly totally fucking retarded.

[SwirlsGirl]

Yes, they will. We would use sliiing to track sales. Affiliates don't need to replace a single code and all sales are tracked.

Sara, give me a call tomorrow. Want to go over something.

Hey Beaner, no problem will give you a ring sometime in the afternoon

[v4 media]

no fucking shit....that is too close for comfort...my sales stopped exactly on that number too this week!!!!

great to know it is all my imagination...LOL

We just access your stats to check, didn't you know you can check ccbill stats for any program, if you know the right link...

[SwirlsGirl]

Sara, a serious thought.

If you do truly believe that CCBill is capping your sales, why don't you get a secondary processor (Epoch) and activate them when you reach your CCBill cap? This is very easy to do. Alternatively, you could do a 50-50 split all week long where 50% of your traffic goes to CCBill and 50% goes to Epoch. This would also help eliminate your capping issue.

Great question and i will answer honestly....at this point we are so very heavily invested with ccbill that we cannot walk away from them.

We made the mistake of getting hooked up with bogus and scamming merchant account companies back in 2011 who seemed legit at first but shortly after money started rolling in consistently they snatched our settlement funds and closed our merchant account while we had orders pending.

There were no reports of fraud...no suspicious activity just pure parasitic desperation and greed. We have done everything possible to stay in business and please our fans and members who are super loyal and devoted and the gfy parasites and pseudo bankers are not fools.

Please understand that allowing us to generate our potential 15,000 -20,000 k a month would leave a lot of egg on a lot of faces and prove everything we ever claimed to be fact.

Think about it ....this has been going on too long....there is no way they are going to allow our numbers to be what they should because the moment they do...it would be apparent to everyone that our numbers have been manipulated or affected by some hidden hand or forces.

So we play a game of chess and usually result in a stalemate. There are certain documents and pieces of info that I could post in a flash and it would cause many to retract their comments about us being delusional or crazy.

We know what we know...and they know what answers we are seeking. Our whole mission is to make processing a little bit more transparent and to protect the integrity of us merchants and not be slaves or worker bees for the 3rd party processing Gods.
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Now food for thought...if your wife told you she did not take money from your wallet and she never would...but you saw that bitch go in your wallet by looking at the footage from the hidden camera you installed...would you ever be able to trust her again?

When ass wipes..and their related cousins the ass hats come up to you and say you are a crazy delusional bat shit rat piss drinking stupid dumb fucking husband who does not trust his wife...

Before you break their wind pipe for speaking so stupidly do you show them the footage from the security camera....do you walk away and hold your head high...do you let them call you names and try and make you look delusional

Or do you go nuclear and drop the footage from the hidden camera on the ass hats once and for all?

[Bladewire]

There are certain documents and pieces of info that I could post in a flash and it would cause many to retract their comments about us being delusional or crazy.

More importantly Sara, making negative or damaging statements about another company, without posting FACTS, means what? If facts and proof are so readily available post them for us please. No sense in letting these people be fooled into thinking you are batty looney toons

It doesn't do anyone any good to hide proof and verifiable facts IMO










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[SwirlsGirl]

Sent you an email about your other thread. Let me know anytime if you want to test out my offer. Email in my sig.

Hey Fenris Wolf many thanks for the email, we received from you! We will certainly take you up on your offer asap. Will send you an email later today!

I think to those with their heads crewed on tightly it is obvious that what we are seeing is wild...mysterious...abnormal...atypical...anomalie s and patterns....that defy reason and also defy transaction reality when you compare with every other industry in the world.

When you have customers, visitors, leads....there will and should be sales. If you are collecting the sales revenue yourself all of your numbers can be verified 150-250%

However when you are not present to collect your funds...and you have EMPLOYED a 3rd party enitity to collect your funds in your absence and you do not even have a camera pointed at the cash register....well in these times...that is the most imprudent approach one can have to running a business.

So we cannot be their to collect electronic money from our world wide customers so we have no choice but to blindly *TRUST* our 3rd party employees to collect,count, and credit 100% of all transactions properly....not 90%...not 80%...not 98%....but at 15-20% in collectors fees...us merchants need 100% of every single transaction.

THERE SHOULD BE NO HOLES IN FORM SUBMISSIONS when you have 40 people inside mcdonalds or 711 or wal mart a certain percentage of them will be making a purchase guaranteed!

You will not have 40 people inside of walmart,wendy's,dunkin donut,jiffy lube,sears,macy's red lobster,etc... and not 1 make a purchase.

You are not going to see all those leads step inside the store and have it result in 0% attempted transactions.

Its a jedi mind trick and pseudos know this...they know its a game of magic...and manipulation...but I am getting a little ahead of myself.

[Bladewire]

Its a jedi mind trick and pseudos know this...they know its a game of magic...and manipulation...but I am getting a little ahead of myself.

How DARE you attempt to tarnish the reputation of the Jedi!

You are aware that you can track the IP's that access your members area and cross referense those with sales IP's to verify only paid members are accessing the members area. Right? No magic , conspiracies or voodoo involved there

[SwirlsGirl]

More importantly Sara, making negative or damaging statements about another company, without posting FACTS, means what? If facts and proof are so readily available post them for us please. No sense in letting these people be fooled into thinking you are batty looney toons

It doesn't do anyone any good to hide proof and verifiable facts IMO









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Hey Squirt it thanks but no thanks...I think I am wise enough to know basic physics and for every action there is a reaction.

In fact I think it is quite prudent that I do not show my hand at all because there could be a time in the near future where the full hand must be played.

It simple all we ever did at first was ask questions to other webmasters to see if they are having same form submissions glitches...answer was/is yes.

We ask questions to our processing company and have had multiple billing reps (there are some good reps honestly they are some good people who we are on great terms with over there in Tempe...some are even fans) state matter of factly and even express their desire to go on record that they themselves ccbill reps can see something does not add up with our numbers specifically.

Once you hear it from the horses mouth, and once you have actual documents that refute and contradict what you are being told by the one you pay to count,collect ,and credit your sales then it is no longer conspiracy theory or delusions it is a different animal altogether.

I am not going to drop anything on anyone that would cause them direct damage, but I will continue to ask questions just like many others are asking. If they insist on making their presence felt uptown....

Then at some point we may have to make our own presence felt downtown....of course there is an easier way...just see to it that the holes in our numbers which even the reps themselves stated they can see...needs to disappear and disappear like yesterday

[SwirlsGirl]

How DARE you attempt to tarnish the reputation of the Jedi!

You are aware that you can track the IP's that access your members area and cross referense those with sales IP's to verify only paid members are accessing the members area. Right? No magic , conspiracies or voodoo involved there

Hey sure you are 150% correct about tracking ip's to the members area....thats assuming there is only 1 members area of your content on the web

[shimmy2]

sara motherfucking swirls

[OldJeff]

Every time I think we have hit the bottom of the stupid barrel, someone shows a new bottom.

[The Porn Nerd]

sara motherfucking swirls

Once again Shimmy you have crystalized my thoughts.
:D

[SwirlsGirl]

another way to see this my good people is this way....

I will make it very very clear for you...just look at the numbers....numbers...numbers....

last week Sunday thru friday 16% form submissions

this week sunday thru friday DOUBLE THE FORM HITS....form hits increased 100%
this weeks form submissions dropped down to 9% for the week.

last week same period 16% form submissions half the form traffic....

So you want me to believe and accept that if I send 100 people to dunkin donuts last week and make 16 sales....

that some how this week I send 200 people to dunkin donuts and I make 8 sales

twice the customers but half the sales????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????

Like they say on that foot ball show....COME ON MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is simply 1 more example without even going too far back in stats...just go from last week and see how we doubled form hits this week and form submissions dropped 50%

So if adding more form hits to your join form does not work like rep and manager alike claim is the only way to increase revenue...then there must be ANOTHER WAY TO INCREASE OR STABILIZE FORM SUBMISSIONS

form submissions should look rather steady and not look like this
sunday 25%....monday 10%...tuesday 0%.... wednesday 0%.... thursday 45%....friday 0%...saturday 15%

Those numbers are all over the map and traffic to website and join form are stable and steady....we are not buying the bull shit anymore

If I can see it...and many of you can see it....and several brave ccbill employees who have expressed they can see it as well and they would go on record and willing to go up the chain of command for us....that tells us plenty without us having to refer to any documents or screen shots.