Your thoughts. Especially program owners - how many sales is a whale to you?
I read old thread about it and would like to compare opinions about todays market.
I read old thread about it and would like to compare opinions about todays market.
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5 sales a day
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In current times... an affiliate I pay more than $100/day (or $3k+ per month) it is definitely worth all my consideration, I will write him emails every week hey bro how are you and all such stuff.
Those with traffic worth more than $100/day it seems to me are selling it as pre-paid spots only "hey give me $5000 a month I give you that spot, I am not an affiliate."
Most affiliates are using our option of minimum $20 payout and yes they get such $20 once per month in best case (pay per free program) and they seem happy, I am fine too.
Got a few who can do $200+ in one day but that's mostly our models who signup as affiliate, then pass the link to the customers they got in other bigger cam sites (bad bad girls)
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All depends on the size of the affiliate program
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imo anybody who can do 5+ paid sales a day to a program is a whale.
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Several hundred $ per day.Comment
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Looks like consensus is between 5 sales to few hunderds $. So lets say 150-300$ (to one program) is a whale according most people who replied.Comment
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Yes but this is relative to the fact 95% of affiliates make very little. In absolute that would be not so much. I mean let you have 5% of affiliates doing $100+ a day and 95% doing quite less.. still this 95% combined of small guys it can be more than whales combined.Comment
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yes, for us its exactly like that...
For the whale thing well only 5 sales a day ? Really ?
For me whale mean more than that, whales a pretty rare...
ill say sales around 1000$ per day
+1000$ Whale
500-1000$ = Big affiliates
100-500$ = medium/decent affiliate
-100$ = small affiliates
but i guess everyone has is own definition (same as blue chip definition)
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Real definition: Any affiliate that weighs 300lbs or more. ;)ICQ: 16544251 - Skype: gator37 @ eastlink.ca - email: yngwie @ isys.caComment
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Just as in nature, there are different sizes of whales. I agree that these days to start to be considered part of the whale classification you would be needing to be consistently sending five or more sales a day. It is a new day.Comment
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The fact is that the really big guys do still exist and they do still run as direct affiliates. However, more and more they are selling their traffic vs being that direct affiliate. So, it is there to earned by the programs but it isn't always the same direct path as it once was.Comment
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We had this discussion earlier this year.. ;)
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Big guys (at least in terms of alexa rank, can't say for sales) lately I can reach only if I prepay their spots X per month, where X can be $1000 to $20,000 per month. Asking if they want raised affiliate price they say they sell spot and not do affiliate deals with anyone, and often these spots are already sold to other cam programs, esp. livejasmin 's, imlive's and such - at times for 3+ months deals.
We get new affiliates signed up every day (not from gfy really lol they come from elsewhere) but they send little traffic each, they have 1 or 2 sites each with organic traffic so imagine is 100 hits a day average...
Got a few >$100 a day payout guys and I see in their sites they also advertise crackrevenue and others - so it could be bigger whales all concentrate on crakrevenue's, this why they need >$1000 a day to be ranked whales
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I'd say, $1000 a day
When I was at my top as an affiliate 2-3 years ago I could easy pull $4000-$8000 a day in sales with 50% of it profit.
I don't pull those numbers anymore as sales has become somewhat harder to produce and I tend to focus more on my own little program.Comment
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Anyone who can consistantly make you money.Comment
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Ya thats true, steady affiliates its pretty good too,,, but i dont think its whale
And i still dont think 5 sales a day is whale..
Well, whale is suppose to be more than just a big affiliate right ? I see whale like an affiliate that alone will bring a lot of money and pay bill... not a 5 sales/day guy and not many sponsors have them..
Big companies like streamate, Aff, Dating Gold, Partner Cash, Manwin etc may have some whales, but i dont think a lot of companies does (in my definition of whale)Comment
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Whale affiliates are extinct now day's
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A whale should be define more by the money they bring in then amount of joins. Also a Whale imho is someone who can also give consistency in traffic. No Spikes of Happyness and then few days of sorrow.
Problem now is so few Whales around it is now Programs who compete with each others to keep them with higher payouts, prepays.....
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10K + per month is a whale affiliate...
You will hardly find more than 5-10 in 90% of adult sponsors nowadays...
And we are talking about affiliates HERE... AGAIN... AFFILIATES.. not massive sites owned by companies managed by several employees sending lots of sales to sponsors...
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Affiliates in general, it includes "massive sites with several employees".
Even if we wanted to group separately as you said, as a program how we know how many employees or bathrooms they got? We don't ask it in join forms.
Let them say it, how you compare a filipino "office" with 5 people, basically an home with a few bro and cousins who sleep and are feeded there, with a Canada office full of bathrooms?
By my guess, most of affiliates are an one person venture from home; those who are 2+ people from an office are more likely selling prepaid spots per period, not going revshare.
But eventually with the big programs they go revshare too, just how many big programs are there, just a dozen.
So how we divide programs? So whale programs and mid programs and small programs.
For a whale program, a whale affiliate is $1000+ a day (I mean not sales, but payout TO affiliate).
For a mid program a whale affiliate is $300+ a day (payout to affiliate, his part).
For a small program a whale could be even $50 a day
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Love these threads
It's all relative. A whale to me is an affiliate who can consistently make sales for years. That's the only way success is measured and long term health for a program.
Things are very spread out now. Any loyal affiliate to my program who appreciates the content and knows how to sell it is a whale to me.ISLAND DOLLARS
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That's your opinion, NOT THE TRUTH.
The TRUTH is that we are talking about SINGLE AFFILIATES as stated by severel people above... Massive pornstar sites or such dont qualify, since they have several employees...
If a single affiliate does 3K per month, a site doing the same with 10 employees will do 30K per month... Obvisouly.. and that doesn't qualify each of their single affiliate as a whale.
BTW what kind of tricky methods do your webmasters use to send cam sales? HUH?
Nevermind, you wil not answer and run away..
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It is all relative. A whale to a 10 joins a day program is a lot different than a whale to a 300 join program.Comment
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