The Romney campaign is in trouble. - GoFuckYourself.com

GrantMercury · 09-17-2012, 02:39 PM

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There are two sure signs a campaign is in trouble. The first is that it begins changing its strategy rapidly and erratically. The second is that it begins attacking its strategists fiercely and anonymously.

The Romney campaign is in trouble.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...y-to-save-him/

nextri · 09-17-2012, 02:43 PM

It's been a pathetic campaign so far..

SmutHammer · 09-17-2012, 02:49 PM

Good for him his opponent is one of the worst presidents in history.

Black All Through · 09-17-2012, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Hammer

Good for him his opponent is one of the worst presidents in history.

I wouldn't say one of the worst presidents in history, I will say a president in one of the worst moments of the global economy. I think he's a good man and that he's working for the interest of the American people a lot more than other presidents have done in the past.

Romney never stood a chance from the very start, the convention was a fiasco, his wife fucked shit up for him in 30 minutes than he did in 17 months of campaigning. His running mate is some fool and they both have no clue on what foreign policy is. Both stated that Russia is the enemy and made a complete fool of themselves. This failed campaign reminds me of the one ran by John Kerry, that chose a fool for running mate.

At the end Obama will take the white house once again and I'm pretty much sure by a 7 to 10 point lead.

DavieVegas · 09-17-2012, 03:05 PM

YUp def one of the worst. This race will still be very close. Obama is not a sure win by any means. Just a shame there is no better candidates to run vs Obama. That is the reason the guy wins in the first place.

Rochard · 09-17-2012, 03:48 PM

First thing this morning was a news report about Romney's new TV spots which claimed the average family income was down from four years ago. This is more of the same from Romney trying to pin the economy on Obama; It didn't work two months ago and it's not going to work now. They keep harping on the economy which points right back to the Republican party. Combined with the fact that Romney hasn't told us about his plans to fix anything without being rather vague, well, I don't see him as gaining any ground.

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I wouldn't say one of the worst presidents in history, I will say a president in one of the worst moments of the global economy. I think he's a good man and that he's working for the interest of the American people a lot more than other presidents have done in the past.

I agree - people seem to think that this is something that can be fixed in four years. This isn't a four or even an eight year problem - it's a ten or fifteen year problem.

And I also believe that all presidents do their very best. Some just do betters than others.

Relentless · 09-17-2012, 03:53 PM

He is the ONLY thing keeping Obama in the white house.
Much the same way only Kerry could have lost to Bush

Kiopa_Matt · 09-17-2012, 03:58 PM

Jeb Bush 2016!!!

heh, that's what will probably happen to. By then, Obama has 8 years in office, various policies have started to kick-in, economy will be picking up steam again, and then Republicans will try to take credit for it. "see, we voted Bush in, and look... 3 months later, the economy is doing great again!".

MaDalton · 09-17-2012, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiopa_Matt

Jeb Bush 2016!!!

heh, that's what will probably happen to. By then, Obama has 8 years in office, various policies have started to kick-in, economy will be picking up steam again, and then Republicans will try to take credit for it. "see, we voted Bush in, and look... 3 months later, the economy is doing great again!".

you should bookmark this thread

meanguy7 · 09-17-2012, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantMercury

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...y-to-save-him/

Posting an Ezra Klein piece that uses unnamed sources to prove a point? Good luck with that!
To those of you that try to defend Obama by saying that he inherited all of this, did you forget that Obama ran in '08 by saying he had all the answers? He stood at the fucking podium, time and time again, stating the facts about how bad everything was! He was elected because he claimed he could fix things! Now the excuse is things were real bad? Give me a fucking break!! Man up and say things are fucked up and my ideas haven't worked. Here are my new ideas... That would get my vote! He is just promising four more years of the same shit that hasn't worked for four years! Wake up!

DudeRick · 09-17-2012, 04:06 PM

Don't hold your breath!

Bill8 · 09-17-2012, 04:10 PM

you republicans picked romney.

you are to blame for this.

you fielded a bunch of bufoons for the election, and the least objectionable bufoon was your pick.

every bit of this is your fault.

Bill8 · 09-17-2012, 04:13 PM

as a corollary to my last point.

you republicans let the tea party fuck you up the ass with it's immature redneck crybaby tantrums.

again, entirely your fault.

man up and craft a party with an intellegent and mature philosophy and policy.

endless whining and teenage-level arguments and positions does nobody any good.

DWB · 09-17-2012, 04:23 PM

Romney is being sacrificed anyway. They are going to let Obama stay in for four more years because that is when the biggest depression we've ever seen is probably going to hit, possibly along with a total currency crash. Then come 2016 Americans, dumb as they are, will beg for a republican - probably a Bush - to take office as if he can actually fix their problems, when in fact it will be more of the same.

Yawn. You monkeys get the government you deserve.

2MuchMark · 09-17-2012, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Hammer

Good for him his opponent is one of the worst presidents in history.

Why do you say that?

DudeRick · 09-17-2012, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by **********

Why do you say that?

Because he's the worst president in history...

sandman! · 09-17-2012, 04:37 PM

both choices suck

Rochard · 09-17-2012, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB

Romney is being sacrificed anyway. They are going to let Obama stay in for four more years because that is when the biggest depression we've ever seen is probably going to hit, possibly along with a total currency crash. Then come 2016 Americans, dumb as they are, will beg for a republican - probably a Bush - to take office as if he can actually fix their problems, when in fact it will be more of the same.

Yawn. You monkeys get the government you deserve.

This is exactly what I think happened. I think McCain / Palin was nothing more than a sacrifice too - they threw it away.

Let's face it, no matter what... Things will get better, no matter who was in office. They couldn't get much worse. All Obama had to do was avoid a major scandal and he could write his own ticket for a second term.

Rochard · 09-17-2012, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiopa_Matt

Jeb Bush 2016!!!

heh, that's what will probably happen to. By then, Obama has 8 years in office, various policies have started to kick-in, economy will be picking up steam again, and then Republicans will try to take credit for it. "see, we voted Bush in, and look... 3 months later, the economy is doing great again!".

But this is completely wrong. We are no longer picking proper candidates, but instead picking the next President based on half truths and lies.

Is it really fair to say that Bush and by extension the Republican party caused this? I honestly don't believe so (although I myself have said this on GFY). I believe this recession would have happened no matter who was in office. This was caused by the people and our greed, and now we want to point fingers at everyone else.

Kiopa_Matt · 09-17-2012, 04:46 PM

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Is it really fair to say that Bush and by extension the Republican party caused this? I honestly don't believe so (although I myself have said this on GFY). I believe this recession would have happened no matter who was in office. This was caused by the people and our greed, and now we want to point fingers at everyone else.

It has everything to do with the people in power, and the law makers. I'm not going to say it was completely Bush's fault, but he definitely helped the process along by deregulating everything, helping pass laws that conformed to his rich buddies' interests, etc.

For example, take the 2008 crisis. If that should have devastated another economy, it should have been Canada's, due to our close ties. It didn't though. It hurt Canada's economy, but nowhere near on the scale as what it did to the US. And that's because Canada has a heavily regulated financial industry.

So yes, it can be easily blamed on whoever is in power, and writing the laws.

DTK · 09-17-2012, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by **********

Why do you say that?

Because Fakes News and the radio screamers said so.

DTK · 09-17-2012, 05:19 PM

I watched most of the Republican convention, and all the major speakers were auditioning for 2016. They were all like "I'm so great, I'm so great. Thank you, and btw, vote for mitt romney."

PornMD · 09-17-2012, 05:47 PM

It's amazing with how much money Romney has raised just how badly he is doing. All that money may as well have been set on fire. Which is of course what makes this whole process sickening - all the wasted money going towards campaigns when that hundreds of millions could actually be put towards something more than just temp political jobs, campaign swag n whatnot.

DTK · 09-17-2012, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by PornMD

It's amazing with how much money Romney has raised just how badly he is doing. All that money may as well have been set on fire. Which is of course what makes this whole process sickening - all the wasted money going towards campaigns when that hundreds of millions could actually be put towards something more than just temp political jobs, campaign swag n whatnot.

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Rochard · 09-17-2012, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiopa_Matt

It has everything to do with the people in power, and the law makers. I'm not going to say it was completely Bush's fault, but he definitely helped the process along by deregulating everything, helping pass laws that conformed to his rich buddies' interests, etc.

For example, take the 2008 crisis. If that should have devastated another economy, it should have been Canada's, due to our close ties. It didn't though. It hurt Canada's economy, but nowhere near on the scale as what it did to the US. And that's because Canada has a heavily regulated financial industry.

So yes, it can be easily blamed on whoever is in power, and writing the laws.

Yes, but... And I can't believe I'm defending Bush... Holding Bush responsable isn't fair to him. Did he help the problem with deregulating everything? Yes. But so did all of Congress.

I still believe the American public is largely responsable. I laughed all the way to the bank when the value of my rather average house doubled in three years. That was a joke. In the back of our heads we all knew what was happening - The value of houses were over inflated, we were taking out money against our houses, and inflating the general economy by buying stuff and spending money that we didn't really have.

DTK · 09-17-2012, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

I still believe the American public is largely responsable.

Disagree strongly on this point. It's true there were people who went into these loans with no intention of paying them.

However,

It's the banks who created the game.
It's the banks who were paying 3x the commission on BS loans than they were paying on normal loans, which fueled TONS of predatory lending.
It's the banks who were selling these crap mortgages to counterparties while at the same time placing huge bets against these loans, and not disclosing their adverse position (which is illegal).
It's the banks who were telling their customers (other large banks, pension funds etc) that these were rock solid investments while calling them "pieces of crap" in their internal emails.

They knew they were committing massive fraud.

DTK · 09-17-2012, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiopa_Matt

For example, take the 2008 crisis. If that should have devastated another economy, it should have been Canada's, due to our close ties. It didn't though. It hurt Canada's economy, but nowhere near on the scale as what it did to the US. And that's because Canada has a heavily regulated financial industry.

I see where you're coming from, but it's really not an accurate comparison.

The reason it didn't crush Canada's economy is that CA didn't have direct exposure to the bullshit that was happening here. The subprime risk exposure was right here in the US. Canada's banks never jumped into the Festival of Fraud, thus they stayed fairly stable while we burned to the ground.

BTW, i think it's a tribute to Canada's financial governance that they stayed out of this shit. Unlike the US, Canada's government hasn't whored out its country to huge money interests.

Kiopa_Matt · 09-17-2012, 07:17 PM

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The reason it didn't crush Canada's economy is that CA didn't have direct exposure to the bullshit that was happening here. The subprime risk exposure was right here in the US. Canada's banks never jumped into the Festival of Fraud, thus they stayed fairly stable while we burned to the ground.

Right, because it's illegal for Canadian banks to dish out $200k mortgages with no deposit based on leverage to people who work at KFC.

Again, it's totally up to who's writing the laws. You can't solely blame Bush, but his administration was very much for the philosophy of deregulation, which created this mess. Obama on the other hand is the opposite side of the spectrum, so I have no problem with him being in power for another 4 years.

People bitch, but like it or not, the US economy is on the incline. Maybe not as fast as people would like, but it is headed in the right direction. Besides, when you wipe out the world's largest economies' manufacturing industry, it's going to hurt, and isn't going to resolve itself in a few months.

I'm happy with Obama in there, and hope the economy and middle class continue growing. The larger the US middle class = more customers for me.

bronco67 · 09-17-2012, 07:25 PM

This motherfucker is the gift that keeps on giving.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politic...ark/57797246/1

There's only one thing this turd of human being cares about, and that's being Mr President to cement his legacy. I can smell him like a fart in car, and I feel sorry for anyone who is not able to see through pond scum like this. He's lower than dogshit on my Adidas.

DTK · 09-17-2012, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiopa_Matt

Again, it's totally up to who's writing the laws. You can't solely blame Bush, but his administration was very much for the philosophy of deregulation, which created this mess. Obama on the other hand is the opposite side of the spectrum, so I have no problem with him being in power for another 4 years.

We're mostly agreeing here, but to say Obama's on the opposite side of the spectrum would be inaccurate. If you look at his actual record (not the ficticious record the right-wing screamers made up lol), you'll see a business-friendly centrist.

If he was really on the opposite side of the spectrum, we would have already seen criminal prosecutions of numerous high-level executives. Plenty of other examples, but there ya go.

And yeah, you can't totally blame Bush or any other president. Clinton signed the piece of paper that repealed Glass-Steagall (under huge pressure from the banks).

This stuff is above politics. The US has been being whored out in a bipartisan fashion for 35 years.

ThunderBalls · 09-17-2012, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DudeRick

Because he's the worst president in history...

Another teabagger who doesn't remember anything that took place before January 2009.

DTK · 09-17-2012, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ThunderBalls

Another teabagger who doesn't remember anything that took place before January 2009.

He's in the right-wing 'news' bubble. They started blaming Obama for the mess the instant he took office and made no mention of how we got there. And their dupes bought it hook, line and sinker.

buzzard · 09-17-2012, 09:33 PM

The only valid purpose of government is protection of individual rights.

Voting is the way to make sure you never get what you need

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Joshua G · 09-17-2012, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB

Romney is being sacrificed anyway. They are going to let Obama stay in for four more years because that is when the biggest depression we've ever seen is probably going to hit, possibly along with a total currency crash. Then come 2016 Americans, dumb as they are, will beg for a republican - probably a Bush - to take office as if he can actually fix their problems, when in fact it will be more of the same.

Yawn. You monkeys get the government you deserve.

romney is no sacrifice, & neither was 2008, & nobody let obama win. fact is, mccain & romney were the least worst options from a field of awful human beings coming out of republican leadership. whose gonna run in 16 that will be any better. dems got the white house locked up for the next 12 years with the crap coming out of the right.

BFT3K · 09-17-2012, 10:11 PM

Check it out - Mittens even outsources his own campaign!

https://youtube.com/watch?v=P7i7zVRFKSA

Paul Markham · 09-17-2012, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Hammer

Good for him his opponent is one of the worst presidents in history.

Why?

https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19195897&postcount=36

2012 · 09-17-2012, 11:31 PM

i think you're right , we have a very serious situation here. too bad nobody knows what it is

Mr Pheer · 09-17-2012, 11:40 PM

I hope the Republican party is happy with their candidate.

Bill8 · 09-18-2012, 04:14 AM

days ago Ritholtz had this

GOP Sours on Romney

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Romney looks like he?s toast. Which means four more years of more or less the same crap we?ve seen. Great for big banks?Michael Lewis has a piece out where he talks about how no one realizes just how good Obama (and he really means Geithner) were to Wall Street. Did you ever read that Lawrence Baxter piece I sent you? You should. Terrible title, but goes into detail on Obama doubling down on even bigger banks. ?Betting Big: Value, Caution and Accountability in an Era of Large Banks and Complex Finance,? 31 Rev. Banking & Fin. L. XXX (Oct. 2012))

Republicans are up in arms about QE whatever. The big complaint seems to be that it may actually make things better. Funny part is imagining what Romney would want if he were president; surely he wouldn?t want the Fed choking off his recovery by tightening up. (Bit that no one picked up on: Hubbard talking about how great a job Bernanke had done and was doing, only to have Romney turn around a week later and say no way would he reappoint Bernanke as Fed chairman. Either the campaign is clueless and disorganized, or Romney really will say anything to be president.)

Some articles today talked about how Wall Street was starting to have second thoughts about a candidate who wants to turn off the spigot

his republican readers callled the WWWWWWWAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH-mbulance - he said

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the post was validated the next morning by Politico, whose discussion of infighting, leaking, and disdain for Romney in an article Inside the campaign: How Mitt Romney stumbled, was the talk of DC. (We haven?t even seen the fall out of the leaked video, shown here).

This campaign just got a lot more interesting.

Last, a few questions came up on the polling data. I have found most of the polling data across the board to be mediocre, so I instead rely on 2 different sets of polls: 1) Real Clear Politics All Polls; and 2) Nate Silver?s 538. RCP is a composite of ALL the polls, and so theoretically shows all denominations; 538 was the most accurate pollster the past few elections.

http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2012/09...liers-discuss/

finally the "mainstream" catches on...

What's behind Mitt's meltdown

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(CNN) -- For students of journalistic feeding frenzies in presidential politics, the Romney campaign-meltdown story merits close study.

The first striking feature is that the flashpoint story that pulled together his missteps -- the bungled foreign trip, his lackluster convention, his widely denounced response to the Libya carnage, to name a few -- appeared in the new media. It was on the Politico website Sunday under the headline "Inside the Campaign: How Mitt Stumbled," rather than in mainstream newspapers or on the networks' evening news shows, the traditional pacesetters in campaign coverage.

this is all your fault, republicans - history could not have given you a better chance to kick out that uncle tom, but no, you picked romney, possibly the worst republican candidate ever.

spazlabz · 09-18-2012, 04:23 AM

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+1
Amend the filibuster rules to force either party using it to pull a Jimmy Stewart

spazlabz · 09-18-2012, 04:31 AM

Does anyone remember the fact that after Obama got elected that the republican party was decimated? They were a joke and there was even talk that now there was only one real party in the US. They had their backs against the wall and appeared impotent. I believe that fact is what forced them into what they are now; a political machine with very limited scope exercising every political trick and exploiting every political loophole they can to achieve their agenda which is destroying the Obama presidency and scratching the backs of their true core constituency the top 1%

Don't get me wrong, I absolutely cannot stand Obama and hate to see him in the Oval Office another 4 years. However, I also believe that with him in there things will get worse for the middle class and working poor slower than they would if Romney gets elected. The man needs to grow a backbone and fight for what he believes in because he appears to compromise everything away.

weewilly · 09-18-2012, 05:43 AM

Republican Party has thrown out the Fiscal Conservative's who were socially moderate. To get nominated today you have to be anti abortion, anti gay,anti immigration. In the primary they pander to about 15% of the total electorate.
Dems had the issue after Carter when the far left had taken control. Clinton brought them to the middle a bit.
My guess is that Hilary runs in 2016 and I think wins.

What was amazing about this years primary was the heavy weights who did not run.
Hucklelbe,Bush,Christie, etc. It was like they did not want to have to face this economy.

Rochard · 09-18-2012, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DTK

Disagree strongly on this point. It's true there were people who went into these loans with no intention of paying them.

However,

It's the banks who created the game.
It's the banks who were paying 3x the commission on BS loans than they were paying on normal loans, which fueled TONS of predatory lending.
It's the banks who were selling these crap mortgages to counterparties while at the same time placing huge bets against these loans, and not disclosing their adverse position (which is illegal).
It's the banks who were telling their customers (other large banks, pension funds etc) that these were rock solid investments while calling them "pieces of crap" in their internal emails.

They knew they were committing massive fraud.

Totally.

And the US Government didn't do anything about it, and the public did nothing about it. If you didn't benefit from it directly by buying or a selling a house during that past seven years, you benefited from this process because everyone was taking out money against their houses and it's inflated worth and spending it like it was going out of style.

And no one said anything at all.

tony286 · 09-18-2012, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DTK

We're mostly agreeing here, but to say Obama's on the opposite side of the spectrum would be inaccurate. If you look at his actual record (not the ficticious record the right-wing screamers made up lol), you'll see a business-friendly centrist.

If he was really on the opposite side of the spectrum, we would have already seen criminal prosecutions of numerous high-level executives. Plenty of other examples, but there ya go.

And yeah, you can't totally blame Bush or any other president. Clinton signed the piece of paper that repealed Glass-Steagall (under huge pressure from the banks).

This stuff is above politics. The US has been being whored out in a bipartisan fashion for 35 years.

yep he is about right of Nixon ,he isnt a liberal at all. There hasnt been a real liberal in a long long time.

BFT3K · 09-18-2012, 06:53 PM

garce · 09-18-2012, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Hammer

Good for him his opponent is one of the worst presidents in history.

I sincerely doubt that The United States of America will ever have a great man in office again - at least in my lifetime. Just more self-absorbed, money-hungry lawyers. People trained to lie, and taught to tell other people (mostly judges) exactly what they want to hear.

American citizens aren't as stupid as most judges, though, and they are rapidly tiring of the baseless rhetoric these spineless men constantly vomit out of their useless mouths.

All of your leaders are cowards who have no idea how to react to a serious crisis. They are lawyers. Lawyers talk - they don't act or make desicions. Lawyers argue and leave the decision making to others. Lawyers are incapable of making decisions. The simple fact that a person is a lawyer renders them incapable of making a desicion on even the most trivial of matters.

Lawyers defer judgement. They'll happily spew accolades on the record for the most vile rapists and murderers - as long as they get paid. That is what they spent years in college learning. They argue. They do not make decisions or judgements. They just debate shit.

Lawyers should NOT be politicians. Anywhere, at any time.

Its the same everywhere in the world. I don't mean to single out the United States. Canada is just as bad - if not worse.

I don't have the right to say that Clinton was a "great" President - although I did like the guy - but Clinton humiliated and walked all over Obama recently with one single speech. Barely ten years later, your "smart" President is basically an illterate ass-kissing spineless idiot who's entire term is based off slogans and empty rhetoric. And I fucking LIKE Obama. He seems like a nice family man. I wouldn't put him in charge of ordering me a pizza, though - I don't think he could even get THAT simple task right.

Things are going downhill really fucking fast, and they're only going to get worse.

GrantMercury · 09-18-2012, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DavieVegas

YUp def one of the worst. This race will still be very close. Obama is not a sure win by any means.

Obama will make Willard his whimpering little bitch.

Wait for the debates. This will not be close.

GrantMercury · 09-18-2012, 08:25 PM

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GrantMercury · 09-18-2012, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill8

this is all your fault, republicans - history could not have given you a better chance to kick out that uncle tom, but no, you picked romney, possibly the worst republican candidate ever.

First of all, "Uncle Tom"? Fuck off.

Secondly, who else would the GOP have nominated? THEY'RE ALL MAGGOTS - just as bad, if not worse, that Willard.

GrantMercury · 09-18-2012, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

I hope the Republican party is happy with their candidate.

Willard is the best they have.

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Bill8 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,901	as a corollary to my last point. you republicans let the tea party fuck you up the ass with it's immature redneck crybaby tantrums. again, entirely your fault. man up and craft a party with an intellegent and mature philosophy and policy. endless whining and teenage-level arguments and positions does nobody any good. Last edited by Bill8; 09-17-2012 at 04:26 PM..

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Bill8 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,901	you republicans picked romney. you are to blame for this. you fielded a bunch of bufoons for the election, and the least objectionable bufoon was your pick. every bit of this is your fault.

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DWB Giggity Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: S.E. Asia Posts: 31,779	Romney is being sacrificed anyway. They are going to let Obama stay in for four more years because that is when the biggest depression we've ever seen is probably going to hit, possibly along with a total currency crash. Then come 2016 Americans, dumb as they are, will beg for a republican - probably a Bush - to take office as if he can actually fix their problems, when in fact it will be more of the same. Yawn. You monkeys get the government you deserve.

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DTK Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The 510 Posts: 4,544	I watched most of the Republican convention, and all the major speakers were auditioning for 2016. They were all like "I'm so great, I'm so great. Thank you, and btw, vote for mitt romney." __________________ Arguing whether the Democratic or Republican party is better is like debating which steaming pile of shit is slightly less stinky.

09-17-2012, 05:47 PM	#23
PornMD Mainstream Businessman Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: San Diego Posts: 9,291	It's amazing with how much money Romney has raised just how badly he is doing. All that money may as well have been set on fire. Which is of course what makes this whole process sickening - all the wasted money going towards campaigns when that hundreds of millions could actually be put towards something more than just temp political jobs, campaign swag n whatnot. __________________ Want to crush it in mainstream with Facebook ads? Hit me up.

09-17-2012, 07:25 PM	#29
bronco67 Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 29,035	This motherfucker is the gift that keeps on giving. http://www.usatoday.com/news/politic...ark/57797246/1 There's only one thing this turd of human being cares about, and that's being Mr President to cement his legacy. I can smell him like a fart in car, and I feel sorry for anyone who is not able to see through pond scum like this. He's lower than dogshit on my Adidas. __________________ Last edited by bronco67; 09-17-2012 at 07:28 PM..

09-17-2012, 09:33 PM	#33
buzzard Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Midwest Posts: 1,276	The only valid purpose of government is protection of individual rights. Voting is the way to make sure you never get what you need #

09-17-2012, 10:11 PM	#35
BFT3K Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Narnia Posts: 10,764	Check it out - Mittens even outsources his own campaign! https://youtube.com/watch?v=P7i7zVRFKSA

09-17-2012, 11:31 PM	#37
2012 So Fucking What Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 17,189	i think you're right , we have a very serious situation here. too bad nobody knows what it is __________________ best host: Webair \| best sponsor: Kink \| best coder: 688218966 \| Go Fuck Yourself

09-17-2012, 11:40 PM	#38
Mr Pheer Mark Osterholt Sucks Cock Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In your AirBNB Posts: 18,153	I hope the Republican party is happy with their candidate.

09-18-2012, 04:31 AM	#41
spazlabz Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Kentucky Posts: 6,548	Does anyone remember the fact that after Obama got elected that the republican party was decimated? They were a joke and there was even talk that now there was only one real party in the US. They had their backs against the wall and appeared impotent. I believe that fact is what forced them into what they are now; a political machine with very limited scope exercising every political trick and exploiting every political loophole they can to achieve their agenda which is destroying the Obama presidency and scratching the backs of their true core constituency the top 1% Don't get me wrong, I absolutely cannot stand Obama and hate to see him in the Oval Office another 4 years. However, I also believe that with him in there things will get worse for the middle class and working poor slower than they would if Romney gets elected. The man needs to grow a backbone and fight for what he believes in because he appears to compromise everything away.

09-18-2012, 05:43 AM	#42
weewilly Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Oregon Posts: 190	Republican Party has thrown out the Fiscal Conservative's who were socially moderate. To get nominated today you have to be anti abortion, anti gay,anti immigration. In the primary they pander to about 15% of the total electorate. Dems had the issue after Carter when the far left had taken control. Clinton brought them to the middle a bit. My guess is that Hilary runs in 2016 and I think wins. What was amazing about this years primary was the heavy weights who did not run. Hucklelbe,Bush,Christie, etc. It was like they did not want to have to face this economy.

09-18-2012, 06:53 PM	#45
BFT3K Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Narnia Posts: 10,764