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I keep seeing the word rape over and over again.
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Anyway, as has been stated, this is kind of an "old argument" as FA has been around for almost ten years. |
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The basic problem with your theory is that it is completely false. http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm 2010 had the lowest number of rapes since 1985 (the most recent year reported) and the trend is DOWN not up thankfully. In fact it is exactly the same as music, sports, videogames or anything else in life. If you are a murderer and you watch movies about murder you might think about killing someone... if you aren't a murderer you watch a movie about murder as a story. If you play Grand Theft Auto on XBOX you are not more likely to carjack anyone... however if you plan to carjack people, choosing not to play GTA on XBOX won't prevent you. We have laws, browser filters, credit card payments, site security tags, and many other security measures in place to keep adult content out of the hands of minors. So, what we are really talking about here is whether or not Consenting Adults can make entertainment for each other that other adults find distasteful. Back in 1985 the content on YOUR sites and just about every other adult site today would have been deemed distasteful. Watching UFC fights doesn't make anyone a street thug, in fact watching it won't even make them a capable fighter. On the other hand, thanks in large part to sites from Duke, Kink, Wasteland and others... as well as the rampant sale of the book 50 Shades Of Gray - I am willing to bet you that roleplay during sex has skyrocketed in the last decade or two. I'm not a 'fan' of FA, but I definitely am a fan of their right to publish content other people find distasteful... so long as they continue to only involve consenting adults in that process. :2 cents: |
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When all is said and done, it's quite easy to say that we sell the rough sex fantasy better than anybody in the business (to webmasters and surfers). It's no wonder we're still standing tall while so many others fall. :thumbsup Again, big thanks to the supporters of our right to film the content that we do, who have spoken up in this thread. To those that aren't in support of what we do, you are fully entitled to your opinion. I just hope that you'll eventually realize that we have the right to film the content which is fully consensual, and that fans have the right to enjoy the content...whether it's your cup of tea or not. |
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I'm just wondering WHY adults consent to such abuse, that's all. :helpme Quote:
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Thank you for the input. I was thinking if you would post here. :) |
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Some of the models have a genuine love for rough sex, some do it to gain notoriety and some do it to to pay bills. Whatever the reasoning, the scenes are consensual, there is a market for the product and we will continue to cater to the market as long as there is a market. Questioning of the action is fine, but throwing a person under the bus that operates within limits, is uncalled for. :2 cents: |
If Facial Abuse is chopped liver, then Max Hardcore is 3 day old roadkill. There's no comparison between these two other than they both shoot pretty hardcore porn. Shitty that you guys get grouped together like that.
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^ Oh please. I'm not one of the people whining on behalf of the models or saying it should be banned (and I have no idea why such a non-drama has reached 4 pages), but don't start pretending this stuff - choking, gagging, puking - is anything other than vile, repulsive, worthless garbage, even by the already piss poor standards of porn.
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I went to a bondage swingers club in Atlanta one time and I couldn't believe what I saw. People were on racks being beaten bloody and things were being done to men and women that would be considered legally to be "torture" if you tried it on the prisoners in GitMo. But they LOVED it. It's what they did. And they paid $30 each to come into that club and do it to each other. You need to get your mind out of what you think you know...and realize that human sexuality is very, very complex. Me? I'm not personally into getting beaten and abused. But I have friends (guy friends) who love to have girls beat the hell out of them in bed. Slap their faces, bite them until they bleed, kick them in the nuts, etc. I don't get it. But I don't think those guys are being taken advantage of...and I don't think it's "sick". It's just what they LOVE to do. Live and let live. :) |
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I fully realize what I like is differant from what others like and so on, and I do support a person's right to watch consenting adults do what I consdier to be sick, degrading things to each other. But I question WHY human beings get off on such behaviors. Maybe it's too psychological a discussion to conduct on GFY. Plus, I'm way too sober for any of this. LOL |
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I had always heard about some crazy shit...but I never saw it with my own eyes until around 1995. I was married to my 3rd wife who was a Feature dancer. And she would travel around the country and also worked with a company called Gold Key which sent American Feature Dancers overseas to some really cool clubs around the world. And she always told me some of the most brutal shit that some guys would pay her to do to them in the VIP room. Then one night, at a club down in Fla. this guy paid her a $1,000 to come to his room. He didn't want to fuck her. And he wanted ME to watch what she did to him. So we went to his hotel room and first he got in the bathtub and laid down and opened his mouth and had her piss all in his mouth. :repuke Then he had her twist his nipples until they bled. :( Then he spread his legs and had her kick him HARD in the nuts with her high heels on...and verbally abuse him the whole time telling him what a piece of shit he was. That's when he came. :1orglaugh So no...I don't question human sexuality. It's wide and varied and one size does not fit all. She used to tell me that the big, strong "A" type personality guys who didn't take any shit from anybody during the day....were the ones who would pay her to denigrate and abuse them during sex. Crazy. But that's just the way human sexuality can be. |
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That max hardcore video is a real eye opener. He is pretty amazing at taking control and manipulating a situation to whatever he desires.
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Anyways - back to Max - the guy has some incredible skills, it is a pity he used them in the way he did. His ability to manipulate and get his way is quite amazing to watch - until he loses his temper and then he just becomes a complete ass hat. |
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My director said, "if you showed the behind the scenes footage you'd loose all street cred with your members." It takes so long to film a scene (3.5 hours) because half of that time we are running around making them tea, or they are raiding the snack drawer. I'm just keeping this thread going because it's fun, & I get to know who the naysayers are which comes in handy. Especially at shows :) ds |
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I will be in san fran in a month or two if anyone would like to meet up for a beer, or air grievances. ADG perhaps?
Then I'll be in San Jo after that for 3-4 months with Baroni. & Of course a gay wine trip through Napa valley Drinking Pinot Noir if anyone would like to join us. Naysayers are welcome too. Lmk. Dead serious Duke |
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FacialAbuseBackstage.com would pull in a lot more members than you think.
That other footage is good for many porn fan voyeurs who want to 'hang out' behind the scenes with the crew And see what really went on from start to finish. Just sayin' |
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I have FaceDestruction.com for sale.
Duke and Red are cool. FA rocks. Sherm's gay. He touched me. |
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LOL!! how ya been man? ds |
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I don't even find facial abuse to be rough. If you want rough there's a studio from Hungary that used to make extreme torture videos. They were shut down but their stuff is out there, if you think FA is sick and twisted, you haven't seen nothing yet dorothy.
BTW, reading that blog in the first post gave me a boner. My favorite was Ginna Lynn. She was the only girl on FA that wasn't a disgusting trash. It was good seeing her get degraded. This reminds me, remember Khan Tusion? He was a fucking legend, I liked it that he tried to add psychological degradation which was really, nothing that matches close to it. However, the Hungarian studio pretty much surpasses Khan Tusion by miles. |
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Long time no see. Hope all is great for ya! |
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Like I said to the other guy, get real. . |
You're comparing two completely and utterly different things. There's no need for him to say any more than "no", because the comparison is so obviously ludicrous.
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