for live bucks all you need is to average 2 new sales a day and you will be paid 50% so it's not very hard to accomplish. thehand said he was looking for people who sent medium to large quanty of traffic, so even with his deal you would need to do volume.

Yes, that would be quite silly:

"2. You are going to Webmaster Access in Amsterdam, and/or the European Summit in Prague, next week.
(If you are not attending, email me your details and I will do my best to include you in this pre-launch offer) "

Lol, "I will do my best to include you in this pre launch offer". Sounds real promising especially after you've already reneged on this, "The deals I will be cutting for these pre-launch affiliates, will be extremely good. MUCH better than current offers from ANY live affiliate program".

Even **BIG_CAM_SITE** pays quite high % to some big affiliates (programs, tubes - and this is why most of them got a streamate whitelabel) but this is secret deals in fact I am saying nothing here. Just saying, for volume - and I mean hige ones - some cam sites give you even more than 50% (**BIG_CAM_SITE** they pay the girls 30-35% depends where from).

So let's say a program give 55% or 60% to some mega tubes and member areas, and this is a loss for them but it is worth because you steal business to competing cam sites.
You do income on the side: as asiancam guy said, you can not take the "up to" paid terms and think that's 100% of traffic. If a progra pays up to 50% to some affiliates who send enough traffic and 40% to others, already net average paid to affilaites may be 45% or less. Then there's the "own traffic sources" if well managed that may be 50% or more of where traffic comes from, and so you can even pay affiliates on loss.

Actually, now most of the big traffic sources a cam site can get only if 1) pay fixed fee per month for the spot or 2) give 55%+ rev share and this delivers.

Webcam revshare mathematics is funny.. At the end of the day these could all be the same: 30% = 50% = $100 earnings.

if you can't do 50% then how much can you do? why so secretive?

More importantly, his product description resembles a dozen other cam program's sites that already exist. Maybe he needs to tell us why his is going to be any different.

It is unlikely anyone can do different (meanint better, not worst) software or business model or payout. The current vividcams.com it is a streamate white at the moment.. so either they wortk with them or should do "better"?

But they're Vivid, they have those stars monique alexander, jenna jameson, sunny leone, briana banks, tera patrick (any younger ones got popular yet?) well I seen Tera and some others in mfc and other cam sites, maybe they could lock a few stars to be in their cam site.... or do live porn parodies, avengers and batman live events or so... unsure how much anyone care to movie start in cam or to live porn parody in cam, but those are not likely to happen in normal cam sites.

I'm really new to this whole cam thing. I am acquiring a decent number of nice cam domains shortly and while I usually sell them off like I normally do. After reading this thread, I thought maybe I should promote some cam sites.

For all you guys who are experienced in the cam business, what do you recommend for a new guy starting out promoting cams? Should I look out for any pitfalls or tricks cam affiliates are using? Basically any help would be appreciated. As mentioned, I would just have some really nice cam domains shortly, no sites. Thanks in advance :)

This thread is bizarre on about five different levels.

All you're going to get here is a bunch of clowns recommending shit they can't sell themselves, hoping you'll click their reflink and make a few pennies for them.

In general just ignore anyone with a referral link or large sig. If they had any clue how to make money they wouldn't be reflink spamming here, and if the sites they refer were any good, they wouldn't be telling other people about them.

Just sell the names.

LOLOL Hey PeretK what is the program that pays 50% again? Why are you hiding it LOL I almost died from laughing, I just read the thread from start to finish but it seems others are reading it backwards or with one eye shut and the other with a patch over it haha. So anyway I am going to try live bucks LOL do you have a ref link?

I agree to most of that esp the ones that just put a link and nothing else but 9 out of 10 good programs I use I found from others on here. I try to get more info then a simple "they rock" post but you know. I don't think I have ever clicked on one in a sig though

Yes 99% of "advisors" in GFY are simply spamming their affiliate link to random programs. The other 1% it is the program owners themselves (as it is my case lol). So there's quite a conflict of interest there, unlikely you get useful information from GFY posts.

Further: if someone finds a rather unknown program that converts, he does not want others to promote it, diluting his discover, so he will hide it carefully, and advise to promote other stuff he don't care at.

Except that... GFY it is still useful... you can make a list of all the cam programs, as complete as you can... then look and try these programs yourself. When done, be sure not to share any results in GFY, or it would be of use for someone.

Thanks for the insightful advise. I'll definitely keep it in mind if I see anyone with a referral link and stay away from them :)

what % do i fall in? the guy with the cam domains who is new should start off with a stream mates white lable.

Streamate does not require GFY or webmaster forums, for having new guys find them and try them, no matter if anything about them it is written in GFY or other forums. Those big programs such as streamate and livejasmin are finding affiliates directly because linked or popunder-ed in every tube, so visible by every surfer in the world including new ones who wish to enter into cam affiliation. Note that most of those links are not affiliates, they are prepaid monthly spots - paid by the cam companies, since big tubes sell that way, they are not affiliates and not want to risk anything. We as cam program also rely mostly on prepaid spots, while affiliates are a small % of total traffic.

Only 0.01% of the new wanna-be affiliates will ever search or find a forum like GFY and especially search into it to make an opinion what a cam or other program to promote. One example: every single livejasmin (AWE) talk here it is very negative about early cookie expiration or other (true but also false) bad reviews, and I do not see much talk or affilaite links in signatures about streamate, still most people use these 2.

One further proof how GFY it is visited more by programs and surfers and less from affiliates, it is that from my GFY signature I am getting more paid customers than affiliates being signed up; if you check the threads with most viewers, these are the ones with sexy topic and some naked pics posted, obviously this is google search from surfers and not affiliates.