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Tom_PM 09-12-2012 09:20 AM

I knew it was Obama. Those kenyan muslim roots of his. He's not even 'merican. He wants to keep people on welfare, punish success, overthrow christianity and take our guns.

And I'm dead cereal.

BIGTYMER 09-12-2012 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 19184727)
I knew it was Obama. Those kenyan muslim roots of his. He's not even 'merican. He wants to keep people on welfare, punish success, overthrow christianity and take our guns.

And I'm dead cereal.

You been watching Fox News? :winkwink:

Phoenix 09-12-2012 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19184523)
I just said I read it many times. Can you read at all?

All religious discussion aside, this is the root of the problem. You are entitled to your opinion but calling BILLIONS of people idiots for their beliefs, be it Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Buddhism etc etc etc, isn't exactly a foundation for peace and prosperity.

Further, a simple fact of reason and logic is that you cannot disprove the existence of God. On that basis alone, a rational and logical person would at least accept the possibility or accept that its possible that God (or a Creator) exists.

I have a business with amazing members. The only way I know which are Muslim besides those very few that wear head scarves, is they disappear during Ramadan.


i wonder why you read religious texts so often?
seriously wondering.
i am friends with a minister. He has read the bible and the quran.
If you want some other reading i suggest science fiction, the stories are more plausible.

Tom_PM 09-12-2012 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BIGTYMER (Post 19184732)
You been watching Fox News? :winkwink:

It's the only real news anymore. MSNBC is owned by the left, and CNN is owned by the even lefter.

:error

GregE 09-12-2012 11:49 AM

Methinks that lots of things are going to go boom in Libya very soon.

It's not like Obama has any real choice in the matter.

a) This started on the anniversary of 9/11.
b) We're in the middle of a closely contested presidential election campaign.

You do the math.

GregE 09-12-2012 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 19184748)
It's the only real news anymore. MSNBC is owned by the left, and CNN is owned by the even lefter.

:error

Sarcasm?

Or do you really think that CNN is to the left of MSNBC?

Tom_PM 09-12-2012 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GregE (Post 19185074)
Sarcasm?

Or do you really think that CNN is to the left of MSNBC?

Total and complete sarcasm. I haven't even watched cable TV of any kind for many months now.

When I used to have cable I never felt there was any problem separating opinion from news anyway when I had it on MSNBC. I found the claim by FOX that MSNBC was left wing to be very much self serving to justify their own extreme right wing slant not only on opinion, but news items as well. The one is ok, the other is not. But this post won't convince anyone of anything so I'll just go back to my work, hehe.

Nautilus 09-12-2012 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19184485)
Even funnier, who here has actually read the Qu'ran? Who has the slightest idea what it even contains, what it says, its meaning? Who here has read the other holy books of Islam?

I did. That shit is sick and it is the source of the problem because it institutes backward middle ages law as mandatory and encourages violent behavor towards anything and anybody non-muslim. Islam is the main reason why most of the Islamic countries are so fucked up and why islamic crowds are so aggressive.

just a punk 09-12-2012 01:06 PM

Did you read Bible? Isn't that even more sick? How many "kill" words is there?

Tom_PM 09-12-2012 01:18 PM

I think it's true that the bible is full of violence, that's my theory on why violence is totally cool in our public entertainment while sex and nudity is not. Because it's rooted in the holy books that way.

Most societies these days seem to have developed a way to have passive aggressive mobs for the most part.

rogueteens 09-12-2012 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 19184610)

Has the demonstrations reached London now?

Nautilus 09-12-2012 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 19185288)
Did you read Bible? Isn't that even more sick? How many "kill" words is there?

The difference is that violence and the religious law in Bible is limited in time and space, and to one nation only (Old Testament). There is no violence and no religious law in Christianity (New Testament) at all. While in Islam both violence and the religious law are perpetuated and serve no other purpose but to further spread the Islam.

directfiesta 09-12-2012 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 19185591)
The difference is that violence and the religious law in Bible is limited in time and space, and to one nation only (Old Testament). There is no violence and no religious law in Christianity (New Testament) at all. While in Islam both violence and the religious law are perpetuated and serve no other purpose but to further spread the Islam.

Well, seems to late to tell the conquistadors about that ... :Oh crap

VenusBlogger 09-12-2012 03:01 PM

so the next step is USA invading LIBYA to get their OIL?...

ALWAYS the same...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Libya


The Economy of Libya is centrally planned. It depends primarily upon revenues from the petroleum sector, which contributes practically all export earnings and over half of GDP

Triple-A 09-12-2012 03:12 PM

Sick of this predictable shit from the bearded monkeys adhering to 7th century texts.
No hope for the Syrian people now either after this.

I never trust any fucker that doesn't like bacon...

Nautilus 09-12-2012 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 19185606)
Well, seems to late to tell the conquistadors about that ... :Oh crap

Conquistadors were in it for gold and silver, Christianity was the last thing they had in mind. Although some of them who bothered to have a pretext may have used Christianity for that, it doesn't prove anything. Individual people can claim whatever they want, that doesn't mean their claims have any merit. There isn't anything, just absolutely nothing, in Christian books (New Testament) that says that violence in any shape of form is an acceptable way to spead the Good News.

What you're trying to do is similar to pointing at a drug dealer and saying that selling drugs on every street corner is legal because that's what these guys do. Or like pointing at thepiratebay or extabit and saying that copyright infringement is legal because they do it.

just a punk 09-12-2012 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 19185606)
Well, seems to late to tell the conquistadors about that ... :Oh crap

LOL :thumbsup

helterskelter808 09-12-2012 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 19185283)
I did.

Take a photograph of your copy and post it.

Nikki_Licks 09-12-2012 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BIGTYMER (Post 19184189)
I wonder if Americans will protest outside the Libyan embassy in Washington? Doubtful.

And do the same to them....time to stop kissing these motherfuckers asses.....:mad:

Nautilus 09-12-2012 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 19185770)
Take a photograph of your copy and post it.

Ever heard of that thing called Internet? They say you can read books there without actually owning a phisycal copy.

http://quran.com/

helterskelter808 09-12-2012 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 19185824)
Ever heard of that thing called Internet? They say you can read books there without actually owning a phisycal copy.

Indeed. Anyone can say anything on the internet. Like claim to have read the Koran when they haven't.

Nautilus 09-12-2012 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 19185830)
Indeed. Anyone can say anything on the internet. Like claim to have read the Koran when they haven't.

And so a photo of a book is a proof that a person has indeed read it? Interesting logic...

EriktheRabbit 09-12-2012 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 19185663)
Conquistadors were in it for gold and silver, Christianity was the last thing they had in mind. Although some of them who bothered to have a pretext may have used Christianity for that, it doesn't prove anything. Individual people can claim whatever they want, that doesn't mean their claims have any merit. There isn't anything, just absolutely nothing, in Christian books (New Testament) that says that violence in any shape of form is an acceptable way to spead the Good News.

What you're trying to do is similar to pointing at a drug dealer and saying that selling drugs on every street corner is legal because that's what these guys do. Or like pointing at thepiratebay or extabit and saying that copyright infringement is legal because they do it.

Did you even fucking graduate high school? Shut your dim-witted yap!

Bill8 09-12-2012 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by VenusBlogger (Post 19185625)
so the next step is USA invading LIBYA to get their OIL?...

ALWAYS the same...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Libya


The Economy of Libya is centrally planned. It depends primarily upon revenues from the petroleum sector, which contributes practically all export earnings and over half of GDP

Not likely, and this is why.

Europe, and especially Brent, deoends on libyan oil to keep their prices down as the north sea fields, the original source of oil for Brent, decline.

Brent oil is the keystone oil, the best of the best, and its price sets the ceiling for all other oil pruces.

And europe, especially our biggest alllies there, the UK, the northern countries, and France, depend on Brent.

Now, we might try to get the UK and France to intervene militarily, but we dont want to mess with "their" oil, or they will stop supporting us in our military quest to control "our" oil in Iraq and SA and the minerals of Afghanistan.

just a punk 09-13-2012 03:40 AM

Many of American guys here were so happy when Gaddafi was killed like he was your personal enemy. Do you understand that your ambassador will be alive if Gaddafi was not dead by now?

The same applies to Egypt and Tunis which are also out of control after the "democratic changes" backed by the USA. Why does your government always support all sorts of scum like Somoza, Pinochet and others? You were helping to Afghans, created Taliban and trained Osama (he was a CIA agent if someone here forgot this "insignificant" fact). On 9/11 you got their "thank you".

May be it's time to stop for a while and think on who are you helping to and why?

Phoenix 09-13-2012 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 19186598)
Many of American guys here were so happy when Gaddafi was killed like he was your personal enemy. Do you understand that your ambassador will be alive if Gaddafi was not dead by now?

The same applies to Egypt and Tunis which are also out of control after the "democratic changes" backed by the USA. Why does your government always support all sorts of scum like Somoza, Pinochet and others? You were helping to Afghans, created Taliban and trained Osama (he was a CIA agent if someone here forgot this "insignificant" fact). On 9/11 you got their "thank you".

May be it's time to stop for a while and think on who are you helping to and why?

maybe they know exactly what they are doing. :(

MasterBlow 09-13-2012 04:03 AM



R.I.P. Chris

Bill8 09-13-2012 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 19186598)
Many of American guys here were so happy when Gaddafi was killed like he was your personal enemy. Do you understand that your ambassador will be alive if Gaddafi was not dead by now?
?

Almost all of the right wing and well over the majority of the left wing is easily manipulated by the media into thinking this or that strongman around the world is a "good guy" or a "bad guy" as it suits the needs of the plutocrats and corpocrats.

Americans have become very stupid and gullible.

That middle eastern "democracy" would be a good thing for the west was always a risky proposition - it can only be good if it brings about a radical transpofrmation of their culture - and it took us about 200 years to go from religious bigots and old european monarchist slave states to what we are now.

Barry-xlovecam 09-13-2012 04:53 AM

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Video: http://cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2...airo-fahmy.cnn

Cairo (CNN) -- Protests over an offensive anti-Muslim film bled into a third day Thursday near the U.S. Embassy in Cairo.

Demonstrators threw rocks and Molotov cocktails as police tried to disperse them by firing tear gas canisters from police vehicles as they drove through Tahrir Square, near the embassy.

At least 13 protesters and six police officers were injured, Egyptian government officials said Thursday.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/13/world/...sts/index.html
New day same shit ...

Bill8 09-13-2012 04:59 AM

and in yemen - lovely yemen...

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...ors_picks=true

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Young demonstrators shouting "we redeem, Messenger of God" smashed windows of the security offices outside the embassy with stones and burned cars before breaking through the main gate of the heavily fortified compound in eastern Sanaa. Others held aloft banners declaring 'Allah is Greatest'.

Tyres blazed outside the compound and protesters scaled the walls.

"We can see a fire inside the compound and security forces are firing in the air. The demonstrators are fleeing and then charging back," one witness told Reuters.


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Mutt 09-13-2012 05:12 AM

The Middle East is one giant mental institution for the criminally/religiously insane. The US, China and Russia should come to some agreement and jointly seize all the oil and divvy it up. The people are all living in poverty anyway, you're just stealing the oil from the worst human beings on the planet. Let them continue to fight and kill each other like they've been doing for thousands of years. With some of the oil money, build them schools and hospitals and let them do what they want with them.

just a punk 09-13-2012 05:16 AM



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