100 - Let's cycle jerk

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well said..

the sites i promote with epic cash are all performing very well. two of the sites are excellent performers. you should do well.

then maybe all this crap can end?

Cool :thumbsup

Wrong again Choker.....I do understand, ....you buy junk tgp traffic to begin with, Jerk it around for awhile, then blind link it back out to buyers. :1orglaugh

If the traffic your sending to pipmdog doesnt convert, it could be his sites, but more than likely it's your traffic...:Graucho

all you need is a pic of juicy in the middle and cum flying around and it'll be perfect :winkwink:

Over 2000 TGPs now CD Smith. Hit me up on icq please.
People who know what I do understand what this test means.
For the ones who do not, I am offering Pimpdog a way out his pointless war with him, and letting him save some face here. This is much more than he would ever do for me.

This thread makes me wanna http://www.pornisbad.com/images/smilies/3hammer.gif and http://www.pornisbad.com/images/smilies/shrug.gif.


This is all so http://www.pornisbad.com/images/smilies/lame.gif ... :2 cents:

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How is he gonna save his face exactly? Admitting that your traffic is the best he's ever gotten to his sites? Kissing your ass for sending free traffic?

If the shoe fits wear it.

choker you have proven your shit traffic dont convert, move on already and grow the fuck up.

We all know, blind link traffic simply does not convert all that well. So, you are sending traffic to some epic galleries that the surfer didn't intend on going to....And you are surprised that the surfers aren't clicking through...I would be much more surprised if they did click thru...

All this test shows is that Choker is another member of this board who is controlled by his emotions and not by common business sense...Sorry mate, I won't give you my business...

First it's not free, I signed up for his program, am using my affiliate linking urls, and am paying for the traffic to his galleries. 2 million hits that is $1000 in costs to me. The rest you figure out yourself.

Sorry... but there is no such thing as "Works with any traffic" "1:20 Conversions", etc. etc.

It works for some people, doesn't work for others... Its the law of averages...

if you think that 2 people can send 200k to the same gallery and get even close to the same amt of signups, even off the same traffic, you're kidding yourself... some days you'll get 0, some days you'll get 20, or what say you.

That being said, I had good results with Choker and will use him again quite shortly, in addition to some of the other programs coming/that came out. =)

a fucking men.

if you don't double your money at the very least then something is wrong, and it isn't with epic cash.

Ah, right. I forgot about the last updated list I'd seen of yours back when you were still just getting the whole "traffic back" thing started, and it was somewhere around 500 at that time. 2000 now? Holy shit.



For the record --- anyone using the term "circle-jerking" to describe Choker's traffic doesn't have a clue what circle-jerking is. Go surf a few dozen real CJ sites and then try surfing a few tgp's that send hits to Choker, and you'll learn. I'd suggest learning before speaking.

It's not blind it's very targeted. I want to make my $1000 investment back. I do not have money to throw in the garbage.
So far no signups, but the CTR is looking better, not bad for non webmaster friendly galleries actually. He could make them more aggressive IMO.

Ok so the gallery made money (not just sales, but enough sales to cover the cost of the listing and the bandwidth plus a healthy profit) on The Hun, SublimeDirectory, Snakesworld, Thumbnailpost, Shemp, Pinkworld, and Thumbzilla, I get 200K traffic from you and no sales and all of a sudden its my gallery or my sponsor's fault?

so with TGP you normally get better conversion rates than 1:236???????

I don't understand the shock value in that statement yet...

Genius - is he paying you to send him your traffic (beside the signup money) ? No. So it is 'free' for him.


Go figure.

Ummmm, I am sending to HIS galleries he MADE SPECIFICALLY for TGP traffic.

and they are iguana approved for great conversions. :thumbsup

If I everytime I sent 200k to a gallery and did not get a signup I would have quit 3 years gao. 200k is really nothing to a gallery. When you buy by the million hits then if you don't get signups you can bitch. I am being very fair and sending Pimpdog 2 million.

Pimpdoggy, do us all a favor and throw on the shaving machine.


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That'd give the entire drama situation a new touch.

There are only two possible outcomes for this.

Outcome 1:

Choker: YAH! My traffic kicks ass! It even converted on your shitty sites!

Pimpdog: BS! My sites rock! They even converted your garbage traffic!


Outcome 2:

Pimpdog: Your traffic sucks donkey balls.

Choker: F you. Your sites are complete shit.

DUHHH, Here's the saving face part you can't seem to understand. I am making the peace offering here.

personally i think by him killing the payouts he ruined his traffic.

Now all the big guys who had buttloads of SE hits will not be sending to him, whats left? shitty tgp's running on a few trades. (like myself)


his program will attract zillions of beginner webmasters (like myself) who have worthless traffic.


As for this "test", i think its bullshit. he is sending hits in attempt to flood the box and using "test conversions" as an excuse.

I still use his program and prolly always will, but will my quality ever be that of a big tgp getting 10k-30k SE hits per day?


Choker id make a suggestion to stop this test, but you would never listen to me or anyone else on this board.


sorry guys, just my 2 cents :2 cents:

Ok... I'm back.

First off, on the first page I mentioned image source. I was wrong. I fucked up. I'll take the blame no problem, just as I said I would. Choker did not image source anything, as I'm sure you've already concluded.

I apologize, I freaked out by some of the posts Choker was making and then the sudden influx of traffic. Since his Epic Cash account was canceled 2 weeks ago, I had no reason to believe he was sending traffic as an affiliate. I just double checked, Choker joined again today.

Choker sent a large amount of traffic rather quickly, they didn't seem to click thru on the galleries or convert. But at the same time, you didn't send much. I am going to ask you to stop sending the traffic though, this "challenge" is silly and can't prove much.

I've read success stories with your traffic, and I know of success stories with Epic Cash. There's a gallery on The Hun today, it was using one of our templates, and it is yielding results.

Bottom line, Epic Cash sites are converting great with several affiliates. Choker traffic is converting great with several clients. That's all that matters.

I apologize again for jumping to conclusions. Choker surprised me.

Any questions?

Whatever people.

We know that this isn't an attack. No img SRC'ing is going on here. Nothing to see.

E-pic is getting hits, choker is an affiliate sending hits.



The end.



All extra comments from the peanut gallery are pretty much empty really. It is what it is.

I think you are the only person here who get's it :thumbsup

Instead of coming up with this gay shit you should both just smoke a blunt together. greentea would certainly sponsor the event.

outcum 3:

juicy has a bukkake bash and everyone gets their shot at glory

Nice sig.

still waiting to see what the problem is here...besides the obvious fact the thread was started with no proof

HMMMM, so you cancel accounts of people who you do not like? Interesting. So you want me to stop traffic? Ok, no problem. When the shit hits the fan we all know where you stand.

I still think this test is faulted. Unlike those surfers who see one of Epics TGP galleries on a tgp site and then decide to click thru...

now correct me if I'm wrong...

the surfers that are being sent to the galleries right now by your traffic did not plan on arriving at a Epic TGP gallery. So, the value of the traffic is already greatly minimized.

Or am I missing something in the way this system works?

Don't forget to use my "shower nozzle" idea for the wide-angle splash effect. :thumbsup

the galleries get put into a pool of galeries and when someone clicks on a certain niche a random gallery shows up from that particular niche.

From what I've gathered from Choker's sites this traffic isn't jerked around at all. These are just regular links on a couple thousands TGP's. Chokers script rotates gallery urls. Every surfer to one of these galleries expected a gallery when they clicked. It's also targeted by niche.

If I'm wrong I'm sure Choker will correct me.

Ok I guess my standards are just too high, expecting signups after 200K hits to a gallery. I don't know what I was thinking :1orglaugh

You said it perfect. This Choker guy keeps saying it's tgp traffic, well it is, but it's regurgitated tgp, 2nd hand traffic.

Wrong, they clicked on a link that said "Fetish Gallery" and went to one of his fetish galleries, clicked on "Fucking Movie Gallery" and went to one of his fucking movie galleries. This traffic is as targeted and non-blind as TGP traffic can get. But obviously Pimpdog has so little faith in his program that he wants me to stop the traffic so I will. I put up and gave Pimpdog a challenge and he chickened out. But I am sure he will turn this around somehow to his advantage. He is real good with the keyboard.

Cocker rules. He is being so good to us all, God shall forgive all his sins for he is being so mighty good to us.


Gimme a fucking break.

You are referring the traffic he sends to TGP's. His gallery spots are completely different in how the surfer gets to them.

i believe that fetish isn't targetted enough to get the results the that you should.

I don't have any problems converting Choker's traffic.... not as good as The Hun but who is? No one that I have ever got listed on....

All of you guys just need to get over it....

LOL. So, now I know I should ruffle your feathers a bit to get you to send some traffic to our upcomming things? We won't chicken out ;)

How is this a fucking challenge?? If you put two sites of same niche of two different sponsor programs to the test and compared stats at the end of the day - then it would make at least a little bit of sense. If the same traffic converted on one but not on the other, then you might say:

"I challenged your site, my traffic converted on site X but not on e_piccash's site Y. Therefore e_piccash's site sucks donkey balls and my traffic is golden cuz I converted 1:2 on site X at the same exact time, with the same amount of traffic."

Setting up your lame ass challenge the way you did it just makes me wanna shit my pants cuz you ain't got no comparison whatsoever.

This is sad, Choker the only thing you're doing is proving the quality of your traffic.