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  • _Richard_
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Oct 2006
    • 30991

    #121
    Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
    I have been redoing my home the past few years -- rebuilding a good part of it and buying energy rated appliances with tax credits.

    I will probably get a $100 tax credit on the silly new dishwasher I bought -- bought with the tax credit considered -- last year the new roof and furnace $525 energy tax credit.

    $7,500 to $15,000 Electric Car Tax Credit



    Invest in the future when possible or if practicable is my point ... This will create jobs, less energy use and less hydrocarbon pollution in urban areas too. And in the end game; get back some of the tax dollars you resent paying :P
    see that pic floating around fb regarding Morocco and it's renewable energy? if not, they're looking at 40% renewable by 2020

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    • Barry-xlovecam
      It's 42
      • Jun 2010
      • 18083

      #122
      Originally posted by _Richard_
      see that pic floating around fb regarding Morocco and it's renewable energy? if not, they're looking at 40% renewable by 2020
      But you can't compare the energy needs of the USA (or Canada) to Morocco. But good for them; the effort is probably highly cost effective in Morocco ... Morocco seems good for solar and wind energy generation. The solar heating days in the Canada are even worse than in the USA (further north).

      In Israel water heaters have been solar heated (electric supplemented) by law for over 20 years ... Solar works well in the within 40° latitude of the equator further than that it is marginal at best.

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      • Barry-xlovecam
        It's 42
        • Jun 2010
        • 18083

        #123

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        • georgeyw
          58008 53773
          • Jul 2005
          • 9865

          #124
          Originally posted by MaDalton
          funny how the rest of the world can do it
          I would LOVE to see how the rest of the world tows an 8 metre enclosed trailer with car inside using a jetta
          TripleXPrint on Megan Fox
          "I would STILL suck her pussy until her face caved in. And then blow her up and do it again!"

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          • Robbie
            Leaner, Meaner, Faster
            • Aug 2002
            • 20960

            #125
            Originally posted by Bill8

            And no, I wont give it a break, as long as you keep spreading misinformation. Simple solution - you study up so when you say things it's supported.
            What the hell are you talking about? I've told you that it's being reported on the news. I didn't "spread misinformation"

            This news about major new oil finds has been all over the place.

            Instead of pretending that you are some kind of professor...how about just paying attention to what's going on in the world.
            -Robbie
            ClaudiaMarie.Com

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            • Robbie
              Leaner, Meaner, Faster
              • Aug 2002
              • 20960

              #126
              Originally posted by candyflip
              I just bought on 10 days ago. Still has half of the original tank of gas left in it.

              My girl drives 100 miles in one direction for work 3 days a week. We are going to save HUGE on gas. This Prius gets almost 3 times as many MPG as our minivan.
              That is sweet!
              -Robbie
              ClaudiaMarie.Com

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              • epitome
                So Fucking Lame
                • Jun 2009
                • 12156

                #127
                Oil and gas are easy markets to manipulate. That is why leaders of countries with a lot of oil can spend hundreds of billions supporting their family. Its why all of the companies sit at the top of the Forbes list.

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                • GAMEFINEST
                  Make STACK$
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 14477

                  #128
                  its simple, why would prices go down
                  Compound interest.

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                  • Paul Markham
                    Too old to care
                    • Jun 2001
                    • 52943

                    #129
                    Originally posted by Robbie
                    Just you Paul.

                    I wasn't looking to "downsize" anything. I LIKE the Tesla sportscars. They are awesome and electric and fast and cool looking.

                    I already have a Prowler sportscar which is so unique that I have no plans on ever selling it.

                    I'm not "waiting" on anything. If you had the good common sense to do some research before typing stupidity, you would see that the Tesla sports car is $109,000.00

                    In this economy....and since I already own my "dream car", there is simply no way I can afford to spend money frivolously.

                    Man...I tried to keep respect for you because you have worked a long time in this business. But some or your posts show a serious lack of thought. Lots of verbiage in many posts..but very little thought. You seem to miss the point of every post made.
                    So you're complaining about the price of gas and drive a car that gets 23 mpg. There are cars that will get twice that. But you have your dream car and won't change it, but complain it costs you too much. Dreams often do.

                    And I show a serious lack of thought?

                    Any chance you didn't think my post through?

                    I get your point completely. You spent too much in the good years, bought your dream car and probably a few other things and now your income no longer supports your dreams.



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                    • Robbie
                      Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 20960

                      #130
                      Originally posted by Bill8
                      And no, I wont give it a break, as long as you keep spreading misinformation. Simple solution - you study up so when you say things it's supported.
                      Here's a little more "Misinformation" for you Professor Bill8:

                      On Sunday, Shell drilled the pilot hole in the Chukchi Sea:

                      "More than four years after Royal Dutch Shell paid $2.8 billion to the federal government for petroleum leases in the Chukchi Sea, a company vessel on Sunday morning sent a drill bit into the ocean floor, beginning preliminary work on an exploratory well 70 miles off the northwest coast of Alaska.

                      Federal officials estimate Arctic waters in the Chukchi and Beaufort seas hold 26 billion barrels of recoverable oil and 130 trillion cubic feet of natural gas"


                      This is just one of the huge oil finds in the U.S. that have been being reported on the news.

                      The only "misinformation" is people like you not paying attention and calling me a liar when I am simply pondering what effect a glut of oil on the world market will have for oil price, the price of food (transportation of it), and the economy.
                      -Robbie
                      ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                      • bhutocracy
                        Not making A Comeback
                        • Dec 2001
                        • 10218

                        #131
                        Originally posted by Robbie
                        Here's a little more "Misinformation" for you Professor Bill8:

                        On Sunday, Shell drilled the pilot hole in the Chukchi Sea:

                        "More than four years after Royal Dutch Shell paid $2.8 billion to the federal government for petroleum leases in the Chukchi Sea, a company vessel on Sunday morning sent a drill bit into the ocean floor, beginning preliminary work on an exploratory well 70 miles off the northwest coast of Alaska.

                        Federal officials estimate Arctic waters in the Chukchi and Beaufort seas hold 26 billion barrels of recoverable oil and 130 trillion cubic feet of natural gas"


                        This is just one of the huge oil finds in the U.S. that have been being reported on the news.

                        The only "misinformation" is people like you not paying attention and calling me a liar when I am simply pondering what effect a glut of oil on the world market will have for oil price, the price of food (transportation of it), and the economy.
                        Ah I finally get it, you're trolling, no-one could be ignorant enough to call something a find before they even start looking for it. Ha, good one. And I thought them bad 'gubmint was blocking all these huge drills.... *sigh*
                        Last edited by bhutocracy; 09-10-2012, 05:49 AM.

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                        • SpeedoDave
                          Confirmed User
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 354

                          #132
                          Have you seen natural gas prices?

                          They are really low but are you saying it has nothing to do with the major increase in US domestic production over the last 5 years?

                          Darn hippies - I'd prefer to buy oil from America than those darn rag heads.


                          Dave
                          I feel old since I started SpeedoFetish.com back in 2001.

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                          • Robbie
                            Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 20960

                            #133
                            Originally posted by bhutocracy
                            Ah I finally get it, you're trolling, no-one could be ignorant enough to call something a find before they even start looking for it. Ha, good one. And I thought them bad 'gubmint was blocking all these huge drills.... *sigh*
                            What the fuck are you talking about?

                            The discussion is about drilling for oil and whether it can effect price. My observation is that several huge oil finds have been made and it can.

                            This isn't 1910. They don't have to "drill first" to make finds. Technology is far more advanced than that.
                            Is it really so hard for you to use google or watch the news before making a comment in a discussion?

                            As for your dumbass comment about "bad gubmint"...yes, the government did it's due diligence...but that took SIX years (if you just use google or watch CNN today you would be informed).

                            Some of you guys are so much in denial that it's scary.
                            I said that there are new huge oil finds ready to be recovered. Some folks on here deny that. I give examples. They still deny it.
                            Then I wake up this morning and it's all over the news that they drilled the pilot hole yesterday on one of the biggest oil finds.
                            And some people STILL are in denial of it.

                            It's hard to discuss the OP's topic when folks like you are trolling it with ignorance of what's going on TODAY.
                            -Robbie
                            ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                            • arock10
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jan 2006
                              • 6217

                              #134
                              The oil companies spends loads of cash to lobby the government to get more or less whatever they want. They still make record profits eternally either way. Why would they want to drive the price of oil down? Also, some drilling methods as discussed earlier aren't viable if oil prices are below a certain level...

                              which brings me to the natural gas part of things. Due to technological advances creating a huge oversupply, all the natural gas companies are losing money off it. Just ask halliburton... You think the oil companies would want this to happen to them? Hell no

                              If you drive a fuel inefficient car, well just consider the extra price you pay for fuel part of its cost and don't complain. I find it hilarious when people buy a $50k+ car and then just HAVE to go to the gas station that's across the street because its 2 cents cheaper a gallon.

                              Also that hairy pussy banner is fucking nasty and I really do not understand the point of showing it to webmasters. Plus I dunno about you but I have a tendency to browse GFY when I am eating and it really kills my desire to eat food. Just like I try to avoid updating cumshot sites when I am eating a bowl of cream of wheat
                              Sup

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                              • sperbonzo
                                I'd rather be on my boat.
                                • May 2003
                                • 9750

                                #135
                                Prices are determined by the commodities markets far more than they are by the Oil companies. So if new supplies come on to the markets, the price will go down.

                                And the only people screwing us on the prices are the government that ladle on massive taxes to the gas you buy. Average profit for the companies that actually find, pull out, transport and refine the gas? 10 cents per gallon. Average profit for governments that do nothing to create or distribute this product? 80+ cents (in the US) (MUCH higher than that in some other countries).




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