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Old 09-29-2012, 12:32 AM   #1
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What is National Nets priority email to get things taken care of?

A site hosted with them is posting mad links to torrents and filelocker sites.

cuckolds.com

Who owns that site? Anyone know?
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Old 09-29-2012, 12:42 AM   #2
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I am not sure what you think NatNet is supposed to do. You have content up there?
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Old 09-29-2012, 12:57 AM   #3
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I am not sure what you think NatNet is supposed to do. You have content up there?
?? You provide hosting right? Cuckolds.com has a forum thread which is posting mad links to stolen content via torrent sites and they have no way to contact them except online form.

Yes I have content that was stolen. The content is sara swirls whom I represent.

Also, in that thread, which I may post later, has content from hundreds of other cuckold owners.
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Old 09-29-2012, 01:01 AM   #4
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Old 09-29-2012, 01:11 AM   #5
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relax bro
Totally relaxed. I just found it odd that a guy who represents a hosting company would say "I am not sure what you think NatNet is supposed to do. You have content up there"

Here is the link:

http://forums.cuckolds.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=36788

Notice the first post?

"Since oron is down.I will re up all my old and new stuff to rapidgator...Enjoy and support my effort...Thanks.... "

Super duper... Baddog... really?
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Old 09-29-2012, 01:33 AM   #6
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Cuckolds.com is with Fetish Bucks
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Old 09-29-2012, 02:01 AM   #7
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You could always try a DMCA the old fashioned snail mail way.

http://www.nationalnet.com/legal.html
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Old 09-29-2012, 08:12 AM   #8
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Totally relaxed. I just found it odd that a guy who represents a hosting company would say "I am not sure what you think NatNet is supposed to do. You have content up there"

Here is the link:

http://forums.cuckolds.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=36788

Notice the first post?

"Since oron is down.I will re up all my old and new stuff to rapidgator...Enjoy and support my effort...Thanks.... "

Super duper... Baddog... really?

As suggested DMCA is what you have to do.
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Totally relaxed. I just found it odd that a guy who represents a hosting company would say "I am not sure what you think NatNet is supposed to do. You have content up there"

Here is the link:

http://forums.cuckolds.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=36788

Notice the first post?

"Since oron is down.I will re up all my old and new stuff to rapidgator...Enjoy and support my effort...Thanks.... "

Super duper... Baddog... really?
My lord people are stupid. Just email them and they'll shut down the hosting account, no need to verify ownership or anything. Hosts do it all the time, they just shut down accounts because someone claims someone else doesn't have permission.
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Old 09-29-2012, 09:31 AM   #10
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My lord people are stupid. Just email them and they'll shut down the hosting account, no need to verify ownership or anything. Hosts do it all the time, they just shut down accounts because someone claims someone else doesn't have permission.
It doesn't work that way. You shouldnt post crap like this. If it worked like you say , in theory I could email your host and just have everything you have shut down.
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Old 09-29-2012, 09:33 AM   #11
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It doesn't work that way. You shouldnt post crap like this. If it worked like you say , in theory I could email your host and just have everything you have shut down.
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My lord people are stupid. Just email them and they'll shut down the hosting account, no need to verify ownership or anything. Hosts do it all the time, they just shut down accounts because someone claims someone else doesn't have permission.
I hope this is intended as sarcasm .....
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It doesn't work that way. You shouldnt post crap like this. If it worked like you say , in theory I could email your host and just have everything you have shut down.
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I hope this is intended as sarcasm .....
Pretty sure it was . . . . relatively sure anyway.
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I hope this is intended as sarcasm .....
It is sarcasm.

You don't "demand" a "priority email address" so your "problem can be taken care of immediately on a weekend". You don't just call up the host and demand stuff be removed. There is a legal process. It goes through the proper chain.

I can see how it can be frustrating. But I"m guessing it's not going to come down today. And long before your contacting the host, you should go through the sign owner first.
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Old 09-29-2012, 10:35 AM   #16
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It is sarcasm.

You don't "demand" a "priority email address" so your "problem can be taken care of immediately on a weekend". You don't just call up the host and demand stuff be removed. There is a legal process. It goes through the proper chain.

I can see how it can be frustrating. But I"m guessing it's not going to come down today. And long before your contacting the host, you should go through the sign owner first.
Well, my question was answered about who owns it. The only form of contact with site is an online form. So that was used about a week ago and no response. I'm pretty sure the typical allowed response time is 48 hours.

Who's demanding anything... I'm asking.
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Well, my question was answered about who owns it.
So, you think a web host will disclose that to you? If you are in charge of take down notices you should do some research on the process.
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I'm kind of surprised when content owners don't know more about the tactics available to them for dealing with these issues.

Have you run a whois on the IP hosting the content to see if there is an abuse email listed in the ARIN database?

Have you run a traceroute on the IP to see which upstream carriers they route through? I'm betting one of them might respond quicker if included in the complaint.

Have you tried calling National Nets on the various phone numbers posted on their site to ask for the abuse content email?

If you have enough content revenue you really should have a lawyer on retainer somewhere w/ a paralegal ready to handle these.
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I'm kind of surprised when content owners don't know more about the tactics available to them for dealing with these issues.

Have you run a whois on the IP hosting the content to see if there is an abuse email listed in the ARIN database?

Have you run a traceroute on the IP to see which upstream carriers they route through? I'm betting one of them might respond quicker if included in the complaint.

Have you tried calling National Nets on the various phone numbers posted on their site to ask for the abuse content email?

If you have enough content revenue you really should have a lawyer on retainer somewhere w/ a paralegal ready to handle these.
I'm surprised that straight up theft of content would be permitted by Fetish Bucks. That thread is 33 pages and each page with 10 posts. It's just this massive post with stolen content.

Checking the forum is difficult to get any contact info... in fact, none. I posted this thread on my phone yesterday because I remembered that these guys didn't respond.

I also have had digg in my ICQ for about 4 years and he didn't respond to me either.... just to clarify, dig420

Fuck proper take downs... this shit should have been resolved the first time I mentioned the issue.
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lol I wish.

This guy's some kind of fucking whack job. I guess he represents Sara Swirls in some way,so he emails me asking me to take down some posts with links to her scenes in them which of course, being the good guy Greg I am, we do. He further insinuates in a very goombah kind of way that I should 'do something for him', which I ignore. In response to being ignored the dude is flooding my inbox, demanding I take down entire threads that have nothing to do with him or Sara Swirls, and is just generally acting like a schizophrenic with nothing but me on his mind, which is exactly what I need and welcome in my life.

But of course I have to watch what I say, since the 'last guy that did this to him' got all his domains taken away. Which frankly just terrifies me. I'm sure Natnet is also all aquiver. As the owner of interracialsex.com, cuckolds.com etc and so on, I have to say that he just scared me away from sending any traffic to Sara Swirls for an entire lifetime.
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Also, given that all the links were dead, I would say it's also a brilliant strategy to make absolutely sure that Sara Swirls, the cuckold site, isn't mentioned anywhere on a free, open, highly trafficked forum at cuckolds.com.
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Also, given that all the links were dead, I would say it's also a brilliant strategy to make absolutely sure that Sara Swirls, the cuckold site, isn't mentioned anywhere on a free, open, highly trafficked forum at cuckolds.com.
All the links were recently posted in that thread. Sara links 8-25 last month.

http://forums.cuckolds.com/forums/sh...t=36788&page=5

I'm sure the 33 other pages of rapidshare upload links in that thread is all legit as well.

I also used that contact form on the site over a week ago and you did nothing. ahh... I guess this forum has some clout. Plus you ignore your icq.

Great strategy to let filelocker posters to profit on your forum.
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My lord people are stupid. Just email them and they'll shut down the hosting account, no need to verify ownership or anything. Hosts do it all the time, they just shut down accounts because someone claims someone else doesn't have permission.
Improper/false DMCA's are worse than actual infringement.. in the laws eyes.
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Also, given that all the links were dead, I would say it's also a brilliant strategy to make absolutely sure that Sara Swirls, the cuckold site, isn't mentioned anywhere on a free, open, highly trafficked forum at cuckolds.com.
Don't put Sara Swirls on your filelocking thieving forum... ever. How is rapidgator going for you?
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