Sly_RJ

I always found the media, of all sorts, to be quite liberal.

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DavePlays

That's got to be the funniest thing I've heard in days....

Total and utter nonsense.... but funny as hell to think people outside America have such wild misconceptions of what really goes on here....

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DavePlays

" (or something like that) "

Do you make any attempt to gather any facts at all before you say something so inaccurate?

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Snake Doctor

Thanks Colin (I'll take that as a compliment)

Someone I forgot to mention earlier that I really like is Chris Matthews of MSNBC's Hardball.
That guy doesn't cut anyone a break, he asks some really tough questions and tells it like it is.

I used to think he was conservative because I started watching him during the Clinton administration and he was always giving Clinton a hard time, but now he's doing the same thing to Bush.
I read his book too, a tad on the boring side but still very balanced.

As for the topic of this thread, alot of Americans are brainwashed, but that's because they choose to be. They don't want to go through the pain of thinking for themselves or looking at the raw information and forming their own opinion about it, so they just ask folks like Limbaugh to tell them what to think.

The difference between America and a lot of other places in the world is that we have several information sources to choose from (not just the state sponsored news like Iraq) and its not only our right, but our responsibility to question our leaders.

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Snake Doctor

That's not as true as it used to be.

Journalists for the most part are very liberal, for the same reason most rich people are conservative (its self serving, rich people vote for lower taxes and journalists want liberal judges and free speech laws that will let them print anything about anybody)

But "the media" is now mostly owned by big corporations, whose own interests tend to lean to the right side of the political spectrum, so I think there's a constant tug of war behind the scenes between the journalists and management and most of what you get from the big media outlets these days is fairly moderate.

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JeremySF

My ass....Christian Science Monitor not biased. Why is that whenever there's a report stating a periodical is not-biased really means it's left-wing? I read CSM periodically and it has a strong left bias.

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A long time ago I read a review on the top 'non-biased' newsrags in the US, and SHOCKINGLY

http://www.christiansciencemonitor.com/ was named as one of them... I don't know if it rates as well for lack of bias as it did in the past.



Key in on the bolded part of the statement, I haven't read it with any frequency in ages...

hopefully there is someone out there filling the NO BS 'fair and balanced' shit HAHA

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JeremySF

get your facts straight. the fact that lack of funding may have been a contributor to shuttle disaster was BIG news....so what are you talking about that it didn't make it to CNN? I read about it everywhere.

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JeremySF

what society is truly free (outside mayber the Netherlands)? the gov't sucks everywhere.....f'ing patriot act? what could be more un-American than that? And to think they called it the Patriot Act! Shit, you could legalize crack if you called it the Patriot Act!!

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Danny_C

CNN is hardly liberal, and Ted Turner hasn't had anything to do with them for a long time... although he did try to buy it back, but couldn't afford it (or so I heard a few days ago).

I'd say all cable news is right-leaning. There are plenty of centrist shows, a few 2-sided debate shows, several blatantly right-leaning show, and a single left-leaning show that I know of (Donahue, which, I should point out, has the most frank and unafraid debate format of any of them).

JeremySF

Ted Turner hasn't had anything to do with them in years???????? AOL Time-Warner owns CNN, which Ted Turner led until very recently (2/3 weeks ago...)

And, as far as CNN not being left-biased....it is, although only very recently they've made strides to not be so left-wing....

"Viewers who have walked across the cable news street aren't imagining things. Liberal bias at CNN is real. In the early years, CNN's bias came largely from the embarrassing interventions of founder Ted Turner. He pushed his channel into embarrassing pro-communist documentaries, strident pro-abortion specials, and glassy-eyed adorations of United Nations summits indicting capitalism for killing the planet.

Another dynamic affected CNN over the years. As it grew in popularity and prestige, it began accepting refugees from the liberal broadcast networks, liberals who arrived with their partisan arrogance intact. From on-air sermonizers (think Bruce Morton) to off-air Clinton promoters (think Rick Kaplan), CNN welcomed journalists who joyfully brought a big yellow Magic Marker to highlight their new network's liberal inclinations.

In spite of these things there were many conservatives routing for CNN's success. By the very nature of its 24-hour, all-news format, CNN has never matched ABC, CBS, or NBC for everyday in-your-face imbalance. Its greater carrying capacity for political debate has offered more opportunities for the conservative viewpoint. From its first days, "Crossfire" offered what was once rare: a nightly form for a vigorous war of ideas, with Pat Buchanan touting the Reagan line and Tom Braden pushing for Tip O'Neill.

Now Fox has stolen CNN's thunder, and it's Isaacson's job to try and get it back. Sure, Democrats and liberal bias enthusiasts hated that GOP meeting. It symbolized that Fox has forced another media outlet to confront the effect of a left leaning bias that has turned away its audience. Fox boss Roger Ailes couldn't help but enjoy the prospect with a poke: "I think it is a real sign of progress that after [21] years, CNN has found out that there's more than one point of view."

Isaacson has to do more than just meet and greet conservatives. Other network bosses at CNN and elsewhere have been there and done that. If he wants to compete for CNN's lost audience, he has to demonstrate on the tube that he understands the bias problem and will take steps to fix it. CNN will have to offer balance - no more reports of "very moderate" Democratic conventions versus "far right" GOP conventions, for example. And it has to offer something more. Respect. Offer the notion that conservatives aren't three-eyed, slack-jawed aliens with dangerous attitudes who must be demonized before they're heard.

If CNN does that, conservatives are honor-bound to reciprocate. "

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