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Old 08-30-2012, 08:52 AM   #51
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similar here, not touching them anymore, just for 6bot. i have been talking with my friend about their shaving, because this is simply not normal. but, fuck it, just do not waste time with them anymore, problem solved have luck with other sponsors everyone!
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I sent over 32,000 uniques this year and got 1 sale... and 1 chargeback. Traffic from the same source converted fine at other places so it's definitely an OCCash issue.
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Old 08-30-2012, 12:30 PM   #57
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WIth all this traffic ppl sending them, it just makes me so curious as to why sponsors like this just sit on their ass and dont try figuring out why their tours/content not converting, and not doing (or trying) something about it!
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Old 08-30-2012, 11:40 PM   #60
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WIth all this traffic ppl sending them, it just makes me so curious as to why sponsors like this just sit on their ass and dont try figuring out why their tours/content not converting, and not doing (or trying) something about it!
Agree.
Or why people keep sending them mass amounts of traffic.
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XXXJay is too busy writing songs about cock sores to worry about converting or even responding to address people's issues.

And I'm sure on their end, things are fine all across the board.
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WIth all this traffic ppl sending them, it just makes me so curious as to why sponsors like this just sit on their ass and dont try figuring out why their tours/content not converting, and not doing (or trying) something about it!
I still find around lots of links and banners to 1990's sites completely dead and redirecting elsewhere. This is not the lazyness fault of the program who gets the traffic, but the lazyness fault of webmasters not updating their links to newer programs
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Wasn't even aware I had signed up. Just counted and they have a total of 62 sites. All of which look poorly made. Shit like that won't fly in today's market.
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Old 08-31-2012, 10:06 AM   #66
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just set up my first agreement, 23,000 unique hits to be sent and will get 10 joins. Anything less he will be paid 30 dollars per join that he did not get. win win winning

Hey Brian, I think its great you are backing up your program and you know more on how your sites convert than I do. With that said, I went to homemadepaysite.com

My concern is that your CCbill page is not customized, which in turn is losing the feel of the site the surfer is signing up to. The other thing is, your prejoin page seems cluttered and not easy to read. It takes a couple of seconds of looking before I can find the actual join now with credit card and only then because it flashes.

In my experience it seems you would be losing a lot of qualified leads because of these 2 issues. Again, I do not claim to know everything but from my experience that is an issue causing loss of sales. If I am totally off base feel free to tell me to fuck off. Trying to be constructive because I like the fact that you put that offer out there.
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Hey Brian, I think its great you are backing up your program and you know more on how your sites convert than I do. With that said, I went to homemadepaysite.com

My concern is that your CCbill page is not customized, which in turn is losing the feel of the site the surfer is signing up to. The other thing is, your prejoin page seems cluttered and not easy to read. It takes a couple of seconds of looking before I can find the actual join now with credit card and only then because it flashes.

In my experience it seems you would be losing a lot of qualified leads because of these 2 issues. Again, I do not claim to know everything but from my experience that is an issue causing loss of sales. If I am totally off base feel free to tell me to fuck off. Trying to be constructive because I like the fact that you put that offer out there.
I will be the first to say I know less about this stuff then most doing it. I will have to look and see what you mean about custom ccbill pages. I think I just picked one from a few they had. Are you saying have my design like a normal page but with the ccbill info as well? I would have no problem changing that. I do not see how it could hurt anything either. I am going to look at some others now or if you know of a good example please put a link up so I can make sure I have the right idea.
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That is a really low amount of traffic over that period of time. Often it will include bot hits and other types of "traffic" that aren't real.

So lets say 25,000 divided by 800 = 31.25 hits a day.

Look at a site you have with 31 hits a day. See how many of them are actually not surfers. How many of the surfers were not targeted at all and possibly clicked into a link looking for free porn and moved on?

If you had highly targeted traffic and this was 1 to 5 months worth of traffic it would be troubling. But at this rate of traffic per day it is not even worth discussion, but worthy of this explanation.
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Here are a couple of examples.

http://catieminx.com/join.html

https://bill.ccbill.com/jpost/signup...0000001 4:840

http://join.lisasparxxx.com/signup/s...4wLjA&st ep=2
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That is a really low amount of traffic over that period of time. Often it will include bot hits and other types of "traffic" that aren't real.

So lets say 25,000 divided by 800 = 31.25 hits a day.

Look at a site you have with 31 hits a day. See how many of them are actually not surfers. How many of the surfers were not targeted at all and possibly clicked into a link looking for free porn and moved on?

If you had highly targeted traffic and this was 1 to 5 months worth of traffic it would be troubling. But at this rate of traffic per day it is not even worth discussion, but worthy of this explanation.
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Those are some really nice ones. I can do html so I will see if I can find one in ccbill and do the edit for it. Thanks for the tips.
I have a few that are going to send 20,000 hits for the offer I posted. I think it will turn out nice either way. Cannot wait to see it go from 150-200 hits a day/10 joins a week to 100,000/???. I know the traffic will not be as good as what I have it at now but even 10% as nice would still do very well.
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Those are some really nice ones. I can do html so I will see if I can find one in ccbill and do the edit for it. Thanks for the tips.
I have a few that are going to send 20,000 hits for the offer I posted. I think it will turn out nice either way. Cannot wait to see it go from 150-200 hits a day/10 joins a week to 100,000/???. I know the traffic will not be as good as what I have it at now but even 10% as nice would still do very well.
I hope you set up a landing page which tracks each one. I can send you 100K in 1 day and your BW won't even register an increase. All I have to do is buy some real shit traffic.

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I stopped pushing them when they decided to no longer update their sites. Then, years later, they decide to start update again,...I stil dont promote them. They do have good content, but i cant trust a program who just stops updating.
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Those are some really nice ones. I can do html so I will see if I can find one in ccbill and do the edit for it. Thanks for the tips.
I have a few that are going to send 20,000 hits for the offer I posted. I think it will turn out nice either way. Cannot wait to see it go from 150-200 hits a day/10 joins a week to 100,000/???. I know the traffic will not be as good as what I have it at now but even 10% as nice would still do very well.
I really hope you wont get burned on that deal cause in all honesty I think you will be.
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Brian you are going to be paying $1 for 95 hits - even best quality traffic isn't worth that much. I appreciate that you are sure you'll convert at 1:2300 but maybe 20-30% re-bill and they'd only get 50% join anyway.

That said, follow through with this and you'll get some attention and good advice.

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That is a really low amount of traffic over that period of time. Often it will include bot hits and other types of "traffic" that aren't real.

So lets say 25,000 divided by 800 = 31.25 hits a day.

Look at a site you have with 31 hits a day. See how many of them are actually not surfers. How many of the surfers were not targeted at all and possibly clicked into a link looking for free porn and moved on?

If you had highly targeted traffic and this was 1 to 5 months worth of traffic it would be troubling. But at this rate of traffic per day it is not even worth discussion, but worthy of this explanation.
I feel you. But I want to respond regarding your statement about not targetted surfers("looking for free porn and moving on") - its not the case, if I have milf blog I have their milf banner in the sidebar, if I have ebony blog I have their ebony banner on the sidebar. They are not some random semi blind hits or whatever you may be implying.
And I am not sure how bot hit percentage is related with number of daily hits. Two scenarios: 5 blogs that gives 31hits/day and 50 blogs that would give 310 hits/day. Percentage of bot hits would be similar in both cases.

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Brian you are going to be paying $1 for 95 hits - even best quality traffic isn't worth that much.
$1 for 95 hits is sustainable only for hits from pay member areas, also hits from what countries? if 30 hits are india, turkey, russia etc. , good luck.
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I can see this being the situation with some affiliates, but for you to say this is the situation with all of us posting our shitty ratios is just ridiculous.
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I can see this being the situation with some affiliates, but for you to say this is the situation with all of us posting our shitty ratios is just ridiculous.
I was just saying why an affilaite should keep a link after 0:20,000, he should have pulled sooner. About every program being 0:20,000 this could be, in fact I see more and more links to pay per free signup programs lately. For example myfreecams's freecamsexposed page, $2.50 per free, that's everywhere now. And chaturbate $1 per free before. I can say own stats: we got 2 programs, a pay per free, and the PPS, and most affiliates use the pay per free (this could also be since we did not provide revshare). The pay per free solves the 1:10,000 issue, bringing it to 1:100's, but with smaller per signup dollar. Very targeted (at least cams) gets 1:20 free sign ratio, do your math. cecash AllMags pays per free too, and datinggold, these are more popular someone may think.
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I have 3 people that took my offer that spoke to me about it, The first one has sent just over 26,000 hits and has 15 joins and 1 is for 69 dollars so lets count that as two lol. I will leave it to them to post exact numbers but he got the 10 joins by 23K hits.
The other two have both sent about half the 23K hits and both have over half of the target joins.
I am glad I had some honest affiliates try this and not someone just send me 23,000 hits from China which I would have told them to fuck off anyways but it turned out very well so far.
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27,000 clicks is this a joke.... I mean seriously thats a number that is no different than 1% form submissions

Why do fuck tards and ass hats think everyone is so stupid...don't they understand yet that the numbers are an anomaly to themselves and in a court of law they would get laughed at trying to stand beside those numbers?

I guess when all else fails start taking mofos to court....drag their ass into the court room and let them defend those bull shit numbers

Fuck I hate ass hats and parasites they are everything thats wrong with the world
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Old 09-16-2012, 12:43 PM   #95
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and complete silence from occash...are we shocked?
Lol I love how people think that GFY means shit to this industry. "Oh I'm gonna post on gfy that will show them!!!" No body cares be it occash or whoever most are busy making money and not bitching on a web forum.
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Old 09-16-2012, 12:49 PM   #96
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27,000 clicks is this a joke.... I mean seriously thats a number that is no different than 1% form submissions

Why do fuck tards and ass hats think everyone is so stupid...don't they understand yet that the numbers are an anomaly to themselves and in a court of law they would get laughed at trying to stand beside those numbers?

I guess when all else fails start taking mofos to court....drag their ass into the court room and let them defend those bull shit numbers

Fuck I hate ass hats and parasites they are everything thats wrong with the world
Joke is on you bro.
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Old 09-16-2012, 03:03 PM   #97
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Old 09-16-2012, 03:17 PM   #98
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did you see the thread? Not sure who that guy is though
I am the original poster of the thread.
I was asking what he meant by his post. Did he mean that xxxjay was dishonest, shaving or something like that?
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Old 09-16-2012, 03:28 PM   #99
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I am the original poster of the thread.
I was asking what he meant by his post. Did he mean that xxxjay was dishonest, shaving or something like that?
LOL my bad, it got so long I forgot. I think I have met xxxjay and he was a riot, I didn't know he owned this program though, I have never heard anything other then the bad ratios but it could be one of many things. I am just trying to back by big mouth up with the ten joins in 23K unique visits
2nd person made it with 19 joins! and the last one still has 3 to go now and I might have to pay him for a couple. It will be close
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Old 09-16-2012, 03:29 PM   #100
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