APHSS Meeting with L.A. County Health Official Confirms 9 Adult Performers May Have Tested Positive - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

JFK · 08-29-2012, 11:58 AM

Fitty sad state of affairs

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 08-29-2012, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Redrob

As I said before, the FSC does not operate a testing center or pretend to be one.

Does FSC get a percentage or fee on every APHSS test transaction? How much per transaction does the FSC make, or what percentage of the testing fee is actually for the FSC database fee?

How much annually is the FSC making (projected to make) from it's APHSS HIV/STD testing "database" service, and what is the money being used for?

ADG

peterk · 08-29-2012, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth

What a disgrace the FSC is to this industry. Seriously.

why in the hell is the FSC involved with model testing. is it their way of adapt or dieing? did porn revenues dry up for them so now they have to branch off into other things to try to make money? what next getting jobs at the 7-11 ?

Robbie · 08-29-2012, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by peterk

what next getting jobs at the 7-11 ?

marcop · 08-29-2012, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Redrob

Personally, I'm not backing away from anything that I have said.

Marcus told me that the guy at TTS who (allegedly) gave him the altered test was subsequently fired by TTS. Can you confirm that?

mikesouth · 08-29-2012, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by marcop

Marcus told me that the guy at TTS who (allegedly) gave him the altered test was subsequently fired by TTS. Can you confirm that?

didnt happen TTS didnt fake a test and nobody there has been fired....I know that the FSC wants you to believe that nonsense but it is exactly that...nonsense.

Redrob · 08-29-2012, 02:58 PM

I think the fake test does exist and it is up to Mr. Marcus whether or not to release the test as it is his personal medical records.

You, as a group, have given him so much bullshit for coming forward and admitting his mistakes, why should he do anything......? I think it takes a big man to admit their mistakes and own up to them. A much bigger man than a blogger on a rant.

The other positive performers are still lurking in the shadows and nobody has criticized them for not stepping forward. Seems to me to be a bit of a double standard for testing positive to me.

Seems to me you just want to bash the FSC as always.

Just my opinion.

Qbert · 08-29-2012, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Redrob

I think the fake test does exist...

1) If that fake test does exist then why did he use a different altered test?

2) TTS owner unequivocally stated that it's impossible to generate such a test on their system. The software won't allow it.

3) Mister Marcus' honesty is questionable at best, and no one other than him claims to have seen that fake test.

Bottom line, your personal bias is once again affecting your judgement.

Robbie · 08-29-2012, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Redrob

I think it takes a big man to admit their mistakes and own up to them. A much bigger man than a blogger on a rant..

Rob, Mike South was shooting porn looooonnnnngggg before Mr Marcus ever got in this business. Unlike you and the rest of the folks at the FSC, Mike has been in the porn business a long time, shooting, starring in, directing, and editing his own videos.
I've known him since the mid 1990's and he was already a well established porn director at that time.

He isn't just a "blogger". He's an actual veteran of the porn biz whose opinion is far more qualified than yours.

I don't know why you're in full "shill" mode for the FSC. But you're making it worse and you are personally looking really, really bad on here spreading rumors.

The FACTS are that Mr. Marcus has changed his story COMPLETELY and it's documented that he did so on several different occasions.

My good advice to you would be to shut up about this before you find yourself on the wrong end of a lawsuit from TTS. You should be dealing with facts. And you really don't know the facts. I'd be real careful if I were you.

I especially wouldn't count on the FSC to defend you in court if TTS gets tired of your accusations. The FSC doesn't exactly have a very good record when it comes to winning court cases.

Instead of making yourself look bad like this...best thing is to just back off. All of your efforts have made the FSC look worse and worse.

Hell, if I were Fabian..I'd go ahead and drop the FSC "testing" company and go buy out TTS. At least they have a good reputation and years of experience. As usual, the FSC is shooting itself in the foot at every turn.

gabe100 · 08-29-2012, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by marcop

Marcus told me that the guy at TTS who (allegedly) gave him the altered test was subsequently fired by TTS. Can you confirm that?

such bullshit... didn't you share an office with him during the jim south days?? Surely you would know if he was talking out of his infected ass or not.

I'll take TTS's word over Marcus's any day of the week.

Redrob, Marcus spoke up because his ass was against a wall and FSC were the only ones willing to hold his hand ( and use it to their advantage in the testing wars against TTS).

All you standing in line to support him, calling him a big man and buying him lunches should be ashamed.

Robbie · 08-29-2012, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by gabe100

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All you standing in line to support him, calling him a big man and buying him lunches should be ashamed.

It seems that the FSC is so desperate for relevancy in SOME field that they have absolutely no shame. They don't mind destroying the entire industry in LA with their incessant "press releases", and they don't mind using an STD that is easily curable and a guy who lied his ass off after forging his test to try and leverage their position.

It is shameful. But I doubt that they will see it through their desperation.

As I said earlier...when the FSC through it's grandstanding manages to help drive the industry out of Los Angeles...then a lot of the people at the FSC will be working at McDonald's. They will have effectively destroyed the golden goose that's kept them fed for the last decade.

MaDalton · 08-29-2012, 03:27 PM

man, i am sure happy that over here testing business is not a political issue.

this TTS/APHSS thing is kindergarten at its best while the health of real human people is at stake.

just my two euro cent

The Porn Nerd · 08-29-2012, 03:35 PM

To sum up:

While there has always been escorting in porn the amount and frequency these days FAR exceeds whatever percentage was 'always doing it". And Robbie, to say strippers and whores have the cleanest pussies.....man, the smell of vinegar on some sets is overwhelming! Clean? Yah, you can stick your dick in them, not me....

Keeping things quiet hurts this Industry because it allows scumbags to continue to fuck up, cause shit that harms many others, etc etc. NO Industry can "police themselves". Porn should be regulated as it is in Europe, and so should prostitution, and stripping...but of course they won't be because America is run by and consists of overaged children. Snickerdoodle.

So is it a bad thing or a good thing if this gets tons of publicity in the mainstream press? I think both - bad at first but ultimately good because it will force higher standards in the adult biz.

gabe100 · 08-29-2012, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterPeabody

So is it a bad thing or a good thing if this gets tons of publicity in the mainstream press? I think both - bad at first but ultimately good because it will force higher standards in the adult biz.

Yep, higher standards. Marcus will shoot glam with a 5D M3 while he infects the next generation

epitome · 08-29-2012, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Qbert

1) If that fake test does exist then why did he use a different altered test?

2) TTS owner unequivocally stated that it's impossible to generate such a test on their system. The software won't allow it.

3) Mister Marcus' honesty is questionable at best, and no one other than him claims to have seen that fake test.

Bottom line, your personal bias is once again affecting your judgement.

He'll avoid answering those questions and then a little while later say that he thinks TTS gave the guy a falsified test.

SGS · 08-29-2012, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterPeabody

To sum up:

While there has always been escorting in porn the amount and frequency these days FAR exceeds whatever percentage was 'always doing it". And Robbie, to say strippers and whores have the cleanest pussies.....man, the smell of vinegar on some sets is overwhelming! Clean? Yah, you can stick your dick in them, not me....

That's true both sides of the Atlantic now

Robbie · 08-29-2012, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterPeabody

To sum up:

While there has always been escorting in porn the amount and frequency these days FAR exceeds whatever percentage was 'always doing it". And Robbie, to say strippers and whores have the cleanest pussies.....man, the smell of vinegar on some sets is overwhelming! Clean? Yah, you can stick your dick in them, not me....
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Brother you are free to believe what you will. I know better. I was involved in the offline adult industry in one way or another since 1978. Lived with girls who were escorts and strippers and feature dancers. And ran in their circles up until this very day.

From Florida to Michigan to Mississippi to L.A. and Vegas....strippers and escorts were and are some of the cleanest girls in every way. Good hygiene and frequent visits to their OBGYN

mikesouth · 08-29-2012, 04:03 PM

Thanks Robbie I appreciate your words brudda.

Im also happy that most of the people in porn aren't falling for this FSC nonsense...there is a very real movement to gut that org and fire Diane Duke and it has some VERY powerful supporters...as it should.

Im also happy that less than 1/3 or eligible performers went and got that shot, the rest opting instead to take it up with their own doctors.

Im not sure what redrob did before he came on here pimping the FSC, Ive never seen anything else that I recall but dude whatever it was you should return to it.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 08-29-2012, 04:07 PM

Redrob, any reason why you are avoiding my questions?

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

How much, or what percentage of each test, is contributed/paid to the FSC and APHSS for their "database" service?

In other words, what is the FSC and APHSS getting as a payout per person, for not being in the testing business, and simply for assisting with the database, if that is the extent of what they are doing for their share of the quasi-mandatory testing loot?

ADG

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Does FSC get a percentage or fee on every APHSS test transaction? How much per transaction does the FSC make, or what percentage of the testing fee is actually for the FSC database fee?

How much annually is the FSC making (projected to make) from it's APHSS HIV/STD testing "database" service, and what is the money being used for?

ADG

I'm just curious what, if any, vested money interests the FSC has in the APHSS, if so, approximately how much they are making (or what flat fee/percentage) from each test, and what that money is buying, besides PR for FSC/APHSS/Manwin?

I figured that since I am asking a question about facts, instead of speculation, that you would have a simple straightforward answer.

ADG

Gozarian · 08-29-2012, 04:54 PM

I think Fabi need to "bone up" on syphilis. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...3/?tool=pubmed

The Porn Nerd · 08-29-2012, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Brother you are free to believe what you will. I know better. I was involved in the offline adult industry in one way or another since 1978. Lived with girls who were escorts and strippers and feature dancers. And ran in their circles up until this very day.

From Florida to Michigan to Mississippi to L.A. and Vegas....strippers and escorts were and are some of the cleanest girls in every way. Good hygiene and frequent visits to their OBGYN

Oh I agree that for years sex workers had cleaner pussies (man what a topic LOL), considering they used their pussies as their money-makers.

But today I've heard tales of girls showing up after doing a shoot for another shoot without cleaning the cooze (sloppy seconds anyone?), male talent going from set to set and just wiping their dick off in-between. The smell of vinegar (meaning these girls dousche/over-dousche) is almost toxic. If their pussies were truly clean they wouldn't need to dousche....

I know there are many performers who take thier own health and the health of their co-workers seriously. MILFs tend to be wiser and saner about body fluids and diseases than girls under 25. But it's the youngin's, the newbs, the weaker souls who do this out of desperation who need saving from themselves (and the rest of us).

marcop · 08-29-2012, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by gabe100

such bullshit... didn't you share an office with him during the jim south days?? Surely you would know if he was talking out of his infected ass or not.

You're incorrect--I shared an office with Jim South for about 3.5 years; Marcus rented the adjacent office. And yes, I have a very strong opinion about the veracity of Marcus' story.

Redrob · 08-29-2012, 05:27 PM

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Redrob, any reason why you are avoiding my questions?

Not trying to avoid the question, I just don't know the answer. I'm confident the FSC is paid something from the tests in order to meet the overhead of operating the database. I'm not sure the APHSS is breaking even on its overhead to date.

I'll ask and see what I can find out.

Sorry for the slow reply; but, the wife took me out for a burger.

The Porn Nerd · 08-29-2012, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Redrob

Sorry for the slow reply; but, the wife took me out for a burger.

LOL Proof there IS life outside of porn!!

marcop · 08-29-2012, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Redrob

I think the fake test does exist and it is up to Mr. Marcus whether or not to release the test as it is his personal medical records.

What about the person at TTS who helped Marcus? Marcus told Jim South and me that person had been fired by TTS--can you confirm that?

Qbert · 08-29-2012, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by marcop

What about the person at TTS who helped Marcus? Marcus told Jim South and me that person had been fired by TTS--can you confirm that?

Redrob has no connection with TTS so why ask him? Sixto from TTS categorically denies it's even possible to print such a fake on their system, see quote below from interview with Mike South.

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"This brings us to Mr. Marcus accusation of inappropriate behavior on the part of our personnel. We want to clarify that there has been no inappropriate behavior on the part of our personnel and we stand by them.

On June 12th 2012, we started to test all talent for RPR (Syphilis) by adding it to our Basic Panel at no additional cost. We consider RPR (Syphilis) to be a "forward time-point" result. This means that once you have a "Reactive" result, it will not revert to a "Non-Reactive" status.

The rationale to add Syphilis to our Basic Panel of testing was to upgrade the level of health and decrease the risk amongst performers. This test was also made part of the basic algorithm that decides if a talent is "Cleared" or "Not Cleared" to work on the web portal.

Due to the nature of our business, our internally developed and validated computer system has levels of security embedded into its code. While developing the different algorithms for "Clearing" a talent to work there has to be a group of tests performed simultaneously. If one of those tests has an abnormal result, access to the talents results are disabled in our system and will provide a "Not Cleared" status until resolved. The system does not allow the separation of a particular test from a panel and will never clear a talent who has an abnormal forward time-point result."

Redrob · 08-29-2012, 05:52 PM

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Thanks Robbie I appreciate your words brudda.

Im also happy that most of the people in porn aren't falling for this FSC nonsense...there is a very real movement to gut that org and fire Diane Duke and it has some VERY powerful supporters...as it should.

Mike, a blogger, and two webmasters.....with one in Thailand do not make "VERY powerful supporters"; and, certainly not a movement.

Give me some names or, as far as I am concerned, you are just ranting again.

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I've known him since the mid 1990's and he was already a well established porn director at that time.

He isn't just a "blogger". He's an actual veteran of the porn biz whose opinion is far more qualified than yours.

I've been in this business since 1973 when most of you were still a twinkle in Daddy's eye or at best still shitting your britches. You'd probably be surprised by most of my opinions.

Robbie · 08-29-2012, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Redrob

I've been in this business since 1973 when most of you were still a twinkle in Daddy's eye or at best still shitting your britches. You'd probably be surprised by most of my opinions.

You got me by 5 years.

So WHAT have you done in this business Rob?

Did you shoot porn? Run a strip club? Work with escorts? Own a bookstore?

I have nothing against you personally. But I'm unaware of what you do. I KNOW Mike is a real pro in this business.

What video series did you produce?

mikesouth · 08-29-2012, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Redrob

Mike, a blogger, and two webmasters.....with one in Thailand do not make "VERY powerful supporters"; and, certainly not a movement.

Give me some names or, as far as I am concerned, you are just ranting again.

I've been in this business since 1973 when most of you were still a twinkle in Daddy's eye or at best still shitting your britches. You'd probably be surprised by most of my opinions.

Names you are a lot dumber than I am if you think I would do that....but lets just say theres a reason I knew about yalls press conferences with Marcus that you kept delaying, theres a reason he contacted me before avn and xbiz got those stories out and theres a reason I knew that avn and xbiz were releasing the interviews simultaneously and that reason wasnt Richard like you idiots think. It isnt by accident that i know that the FSC planted that TTS bullshit either....Or that APHSS is being investigated by authorities.

I look forward to the day that Fabian gets to do a perp walk....

gabe100 · 08-29-2012, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by marcop

And yes, I have a very strong opinion about the veracity of Marcus' story.

Indeed you do.

http://www.worldmodeling.com/profile.php?ModelID=1

xXXtesy10 · 08-30-2012, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Redrob

Mike, a blogger, and two webmasters.....with one in Thailand do not make "VERY powerful supporters"; and, certainly not a movement.

Give me some names or, as far as I am concerned, you are just ranting again.

I've been in this business since 1973 when most of you were still a twinkle in Daddy's eye or at best still shitting your britches. You'd probably be surprised by most of my opinions.

The only thing I am surprised about is how your wife does not smell Dianes asshole spunk on your nose every night.

epitome · 08-30-2012, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Redrob

Mike, a blogger, and two webmasters.....with one in Thailand do not make "VERY powerful supporters"; and, certainly not a movement.

Give me some names or, as far as I am concerned, you are just ranting again.

I've been in this business since 1973 when most of you were still a twinkle in Daddy's eye or at best still shitting your britches. You'd probably be surprised by most of my opinions.

If that's the case then you have no excuse for being so gullible.

NemesisEnforcer · 08-30-2012, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Redrob

I think the fake test does exist and it is up to Mr. Marcus whether or not to release the test as it is his personal medical records.

You think? Let's be clear about this, I have his "fake test" and I'm more than happy to share it with ANYONE that ask.

peterk · 08-30-2012, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

man, i am sure happy that over here testing business is not a political issue.

this TTS/APHSS thing is kindergarten at its best while the health of real human people is at stake.

just my two euro cent

is the FSC that hard up for money that they have to get into the testing business and mud sling with another company? I thought these guys were first admensment lawyers who fought court cases, how the times have changed. will the fsc start their own dating site next, trade mag, or adult forum. maybe they should start a tube site ?

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Redrob Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In a refrigerator box by the tracks. Posts: 4,791	I think the fake test does exist and it is up to Mr. Marcus whether or not to release the test as it is his personal medical records. You, as a group, have given him so much bullshit for coming forward and admitting his mistakes, why should he do anything......? I think it takes a big man to admit their mistakes and own up to them. A much bigger man than a blogger on a rant. The other positive performers are still lurking in the shadows and nobody has criticized them for not stepping forward. Seems to me to be a bit of a double standard for testing positive to me. Seems to me you just want to bash the FSC as always. Just my opinion. Last edited by Redrob; 08-29-2012 at 03:08 PM..

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