You are a smart person, I am sure you are more than capable of figuring it out.

I live really close to Yellow Fiber :)

i have a shirt with some yellow fibers in it

Talk to Brad at Mojohost.

You won't be sorry.

And I don't need my ref link to tell you that.

We suspect the problem is actually related to r1soft while performing hot copy/snapshots for backups on creating a larger than 2tb "back up chunk". If you want more information on how r1soft does its backups I can point you to their documentation. R1softs backup software only works with ext3 file systems, so using XFS file systems.. which is preferred on large file systems could not be backed up via r1soft due to the drivers that r1soft integrates into the kernel. Sadly Ext3/4 are both journalized file systems... and can be hell if you have to check the file system. Most file system errors that are easy to get resolved in these cases are due to inode issues/duplication which are easy to be fixed once the system boots into a single user mode and has access to the spindles to basically de-dupe the duplicate inodes.

A SAN.. stil doesn't help file systems, a SAN is just a storage level object that resides on a network, the access to the spindles is still block level. The file system still sits on top of this level.

A NAS.. same thing unless your talking a proprietary file system thats under the network storage protocol of NFS.. such as Netapp or, ZFS for Solaris or EMC's file system. Otherwise your just using a linux box with somesort of ext/xfs file system under a network protocol.

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Yea, i am. It's why i know you're just raging now because you can't control yourself. You're just hoping that mentioning "legal" would for some reason make me stop talking, which is funny.


Why do you think i, or anyone who said you have temper problems came in here to say it? I have a fetish for making up crap about you? Out of nowhere, i'd make stuff up? No, i'd make shit up about other people also, which would be evident in my posts. I had the displeasure of having to try and deal with you for a client and it was the worst experience i encountered in 10 years working in adult. I don't understand how you think such things would not surface eventually. Also, if i was making stuff up, i'd be the only person saying these things, which i clearly am not (or maybe you're paranoid so you think i'm all those nicks also)? So yea, whenever someone mentions they encountered temper issues with you, i'll chime in and say i had the same experience, because i have.

Better work on your temper problems then make false legal threats.

I second that.. They have kept me up for years now. All the bs u see about them on gfy are $2 virtual accounts that complain about not knowing how to send email ..give them a shot they wont disappoint.

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to the fullest.

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+1 Marty

I had a similar problem with excessive fsck times under FreeBSD because I had 100 million plus files on it (mostly small thumbnails). My server would be down for at least 2-3 hours after a crash, sifting through all of those files to find and correct errors. At the time my server was crashing because of a bug with FreeBSD's soft updates causing a panic (the *nix version of a blue screen of death) so those 2-3 hours of downtime each time started accumulating at an alarming rate.

I fixed that nasty boot delay by enabling journalling, which removes the need for a mandatory single-user mode fsck after a crash has caused file system damage. There may still be unwritten data and indirect corruption leading to some weird things happening at the application level, but the file system itself is intact, so the OS boots in seconds rather than hours.

I don't know if there's a similar solution available for Linux's journalling file systems. :pimp

I have been with Mojohost for years and never had a single problem with them.

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Gotta love all the idiots recommending other hosts, especially the hosts who jumped in to recommend themselves. Especially since Brad already posted this was not the fault of the host and would've been no different at any other host, given the circumstances.

Just reminds me how much waste of human DNA GFY is.

Actually that is not entirely true, as Zak stated they are using R1Soft which limits them into using ext2/ext3. Another host might use a different backup solution and possibly a different filesystem (at least one which doesn't require fsck).

Anyway, he was quickly back online again which is the most important.

You missed the "given the circumstances" part of my post. :)

I used those old hair club for men commercials where the guy would say something like I am not only the president, I am also a client.

Zak doesn't know (or care?) how to properly setup a disk/filesystem.
When we suggested a better way to do it, he completely ignored it, saying that he knew better.

He's got some serious megalomania issues.

Did you ever get to work with zak? He's mr. knowitall don't tell me anything. If you did, then i guess you haven't went against his "advice".
Haha yea, he knows everything best and if you question it, he starts to fume. Even when it's evident he does not.

I find this entertaining the same two trolls keep posting and bringing up how much I? Or my company sucks at our job.

Typically problems when we have someone who doesn't like how we operate. I am sorry London that you think how we setup servers and manage them and in your eyes is wrong. This is always the case when we get someone who wants a server setup their way but forget what the term managed means.

Yet you keep coming back every day for more :winkwink:

Then don't get your panties in a twist when customers complain about constantly failing disks and downtimes because of your "management".

Ok, what was your name or email again or client id then?

Lol same 2 trolls.
https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1054751

Just in this thread there's more then 2 people, and if i was actually bothered enough to go through gfy threads, in every there's 1 or 2 more people commenting the bad service, attitude by you, or something similar.


So now that someone suggests something on a "managed" box you say they don't understand what "managed" means, but once that same "managed" box goes down, it's the customer that doesn't understand it had to be that way.

Nice nice.

You have a real hate passion for us. I am finding your hate threads since 2009 against us. Its almost like you wait for the words yellow fiber to appear so you can keep posting about us. We have our first real obsessed fan it seems.

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There's no flawless hosting, but they are pretty good. The support, especially during the US office hours is good. :2 cents:

Must be it. Hope you found other people aside from "2 same trolls" also in those threads, or did the selective reading kick in?

Just finished a good talk with Zak on Skype. Very satisfied with the outcome. He came up with a good plan and upgrades to keep the issue from happening again. More than made up for the issue and then some.


Thanks to Brad for his feedback on the issue too. Wish there were more knowledgeable hosts posting on GFY.

:pimp Good to hear about a positive outcome :thumbsup
These things happen, and however it's very hard to accept the downtime you Must deal with it. Downtimes always end and you can focus on working and usually there are No big losses. A month later you won't think about this x hour downtime as something that barely killed your business, but something that was fucking annoying but is OVER. :2 cents:

Peace

Yes I have. And no, I never went against his advice. If I knew how to manage hosting, I wouldn't need managed hosting, would I?

The mind is strong, the flesh is weak... :Oh crap

I do my best to avoid getting into technical debates with other sysadmins, really. It's a complete waste of time but for some reason I'm living dangerously this morning...

If I had a media client w/ 6TB of storage I'd do whatever it takes to get them off ext3 if for no other reason than the probability they are at or near the folder count limit for the file system.

And, mandatory FSCK is NOT required and can be disabled, especially if you have a nice, replicated SAN or NAS storage system where you can rebuild file system errors while the system is online. Do you seriously believe Enterprise clients on Linux are willing to sit around and wait hours on end for a fsck to complete after a crash>? I spent most of the past decade designing and installing storage solutions for the largest corporations in the World and I've never seen it happen (and no, they were not all proprietary SAN or NAS).

Not to mention the fact that most adult hosting servers are not writing data to the file system that requires such drastic measures, the worst you might see would be corruption in the database which you will quickly find out about and that can be fixed in a few minutes if it occurs. Most adult sites are only writing critical data to the database, everything else is temporary minus the rare occasion when a site edit or encoding session is underway at the time of the crash. Most clients would probably re-do that last task vs. be offline for several hours.

Of course, ditching R1 as your backup solution goes without saying in this scenario. Then again, any client paying me 1k plus per month would be on a load balanced, highly available architecture anyway. It looks like he'll be paying 2k in the near future though and I can't fault any provider for getting some, if you can charge that much for what you give him I envy your sales abilities / incredible luck in getting clients like that.

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Yes, that's why you probably don't know what i, and others are talking about. It's not my place to question how you do your business, but zak is not all knowledgeable, believe it or not, and there's things he's really clueless about. But, he acts like he knows everything about anything. So once there's a difference of opinions, he puts up an attitude and is impossible to work with.

Great post. You should write more often.

Mojohost forever. (knocks on wood)

wow :disgust :helpme

Yep there is, and I can understand how this is. Everyone get off his back. He's doing the best he can.

Ok, so....

1. Zak's an asshole.
2. He warned you against doing something or another.
3. Whatever he warned you against happened.
4. He is now being an asshole saying I told you so.

Is that the thread in a nutshell? Well,... except for the sabre rattling, and legal mumbo jumbo.

:helpme

Pretty far off.. on a lot of parts.. but in a nutshell..

Shit happens
shit was resolved
shit was improved and made better free of charge
Zak may or may not still be an asshole. Up to personal interpretation.

ouch file system checks are grueling but no hosting company is gonna be able to make those go any faster especially on that much data!

cliffnotes

yellow fiber is a good host and the ghost had an irrational tantrum

:thumbsup

Glad to see you guys got shit resolved :thumbsup

True dat fo shizzie.

:pimp

I love your bandwidth, your network, and how quickly you guys reply to my tickets. I do manage my own servers and fix my own problems.

Something you might want to look in to for this clown of a customer is ZFS. I use it on 12TB+ storage arrays. Love it. Would never go back, and the incremental snapshots are a huge plus!

I always thought their support was good since they got those russian guys at Far Post on board doing it?

Webair FTW....


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