You are absolutely delusional. They used it at every opportunity.
Not only that if you go back a few years they fillibustered the Civil Rights Bill of 1964. What a badge of honor!
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012...il-rights-act/


US News not exactly a right-wing publication:
Democrats Have Only Themselves to Blame for Filibuster Problems

Pornographers discussing American politics with a Canadian... :Oh crap

On a forum called Go Fuck Yourself :error

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they are all talk and no action. the image sperbonzo posted is correct. i think it needs to be posted again.

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Like I pointed out in my original post on this thread, and Black Crayon just reposted, both sides are totally bullshit. Personally, I didn't see a "lie" in what they made of obama's statement. If you put it back into context, he is still saying the same thing. He ignores the fact that the orignal infrastructure was build privately, not by government. In fact, all phone and power systems are STILL private.

Having said that, both sides lie. All the time. Here is a place for you.

http://obamalies.net/list-of-lies

As far as tax records, There are tons of things that Obama has not released, (and the news never investigated), about his past, and has had sealed. Why? He doesn't want us to know about them. Same as Romney. They are all the same.

P.S. I ddin't call you names.... I very rarely ever do that. I was making a strong point, but I had no intentions of insulting you. Sorry if you took it that way.

When PR Tom posted that "facts are facts, and the bullshit spin doesn't cover them up", I found that to be a VERY naive statement. You can put facts into a story, but then leave our other facts that are relevent, and although the story will be technically "true", it will not be "the truth"

Here is a very very simplistic Example. "Some people were surprised this morning when a driver that was speeding at 80 mph through heavy morning traffic was released with a warning. It turns out it was a city councilman."

Sounds like a shady deal with a politicion getting off light while indulging in very dangerous behavior right?

On the other hand, if you are told that the posted speed was 75 mph, and that all the other cars were also going 80... and that other cars were pulled over and given a warning (since less than 10 mph over the speed limit is usually not ticketed). then ;the story becomes no big deal.

It is the careful selection or ommision of facts that can keep a story technically true, while making the actual understanding of the reader completely incorrect.



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I'm sorry, shit stain. I'm talking past and present. If it makes you feel better to talk about 2 peoples' incomes, both who make vastly more than you do, continue.
however, here's a link to 6 years of his income.
http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_b...-releases.html
not very impressive and certainly not in my league.

no, actually it doesn't as it has zero bearing on my comment.

and yet here you are, alive and well with no insurance. the horror!

She is. For now.

Ever gone without health insurance? If so, why?

8 horrible years of needless war, recession, unemployment, crashing stock market, illegal spying, terror and debt from a conservative Republican administration.

Now for 2012 millions of idiots want...a conservative republican administration.

Brilliant.

I never had health insurance until I was 41 years old. I didn't need it. Neither did my 2 brothers. My youngest brother is 42 and he still has never had health insurance.

My mom is 67 and she doesn't have it. My dad is 72 and he doesn't have it. They pay their doctor themselves.

I don't, because I don't go to doctors.

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Who cares about who they are as a person, their personal life is their business, All that matters is who will do a better job running this country.

That isn't a choice, One of them will be President.

Obama has proven failure.... I don't blame him, He tried what he thought was best. Everything doesn't always go as planned, Everyone here should know that.

Romney is a business man, No matter what he did to make his money, or what he did with it, He has proven success in business, and I feel that is exactly what we need.

I do disagree with Obama on many things he has done. and that is why I and almost everyone I know is voting for Romney "none of us voted last time" I think you will see alot of people stepping up to vote this time.

You kidding? Look at what this TWAT of a president thinks of our troops for god sakes below:

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012...-electric-pen/

we NEED a economic president right now. OBAMA is NOT IT. PERIOD. I dont know the future but Mitt would do a better job. How much better? I do not now since I do not know the future. I'd rather give someone new a try over someone who has made the economy worse. OBAMA is just a well speaker period. The guy knows nothing about what is good for the US. If you want to keep the economy the way it is and watch it get worse, then put this jackass into office again. On top of that, OBAMA has been pushing bills through even though they have been shot down by congress. THAT'S ILLEGAL.

Name 1 thing that socialism in the PAST has been good for? Dont worry, Ill wait.....

Yeah we do. But we don't need somebody who's gonna to bring back most of last guy's advisers.

And we sure as hell don't need Paul Ryan throwing the old folks to the wolves so the billionaires can get another tax cut.


How about three? Social Security, Medicare and the Interstate Highway system.

Business owners who employ over 100 people, should have major tax breaks, They are suppling jobs, and everyone of those empoyee's are paying taxes on money from that company....

The GOVT shouldnt exist? In a perfect world I get what you are saying but that will never happen. Who said Romney will single handedly turn things around? OUR BEST ecomonic president in MY lifetime has been Bill Clinton. No way in hell can you argue that. I can give facts up the asshole. Both parties(republican and democrats agree). My point IS, people should not be right wingests in terms of voting now a days. You dont just vote for democrats just because your democrat. Every four years I think you should vote for whoever is better for the next term. Past has shown, OBAMA is garbage and TIMING wise, its time for someone new.

THREE examples? Those examples you gave are not what I was talking about.

Listen, at no time in history has true socialism or communism worked. 10's of millions of people have been killed because of it. Show me one country that is socialist or communist that people are migrating to or have ever migrated to in large numbers? You can't.

The lack of knowledge about our country among otherwise smart people is bad.

The Interstate highway system was built by President Eisenhower to ensure that heavy tanks and big army trucks could be moved around the country quickly in case of attack.

Do some research people! I learned that in the 5th grade.

But then again, I went to school in the 1960's and 1970's when they used to actually teach stuff.

thank you!!!!

Like I said, I understand what you are trying to say BUT that is not our reality at this moment and nothing you or anyone can say, will change that. Which is why I always believed and still believe that our vote doesn't matter. We saw what happend when GORE beat BUSH and all of a sudden it was fraud voting and had to be a recount which was BS. GORE won that election. But because of JED BUSH, he cheated for his brother.

I agree with that...

Everytime I see sombody type "Mittens" it just looks like desperation and trying to convince themselves of something.

Here's the reality check people: Unless Obabma has an October Surprise and the economy suddenly roars to life...this is going to be a VERY close election.

And none of you calling Romney "Mittens" is going to change that. :)

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What planet do you live on? Who cares what the presidential candidates are like as a person? Well, everyone in the world cares.

They do have major tax breaks. They are called loopholes.

And btw, your candidate Romney there.... When has busy taking Massachusetts from 47th in economic growth to dead last, the one good thing he did was... Close the loopholes that big companies use to avoid taxes.

Do you even know your candidate? At all? Your telling us here that "big companies" should have major tax breaks while your candidate was busy doing the direct opposite.... That's the direct opposite of what you said.

What I don't get about the Republican's trickle down economics is that if America's corporations are making more money than ever, why isn't this reflected in the jobs numbers?

I know that after Obama Care, I would vote for ANYBODY, just for the chance of it being revolked!

I believe that Romney is a business man, I believe He will do a better Job, And I don't care what he or anyone else does in their personal life as long as it doesn't effect mine.

When the Russian Government put the first man in space the USA did not ask the "private sector" to organize it's space program, it got the state to do it.

If something has to be done and has to be done properly the state is what is used to do it.

If you are ill and poor you would pray to have a state run health service like the UK NHS.


The idea of people working in porn voting for an off the planet mad Mormon who wants to ban porn and masturbation begs the question of who is more crazy, the mad Mormon or the turkeys voting for Christmas .

I don't understand the logic that a country needs to be run like a business. We've all seen how irresponsible businesses are. They don't give a fuck about people, the environment, nothing.... just turning a profit...

Irresponsible? Nobody is more irresponsible then the government.
How long do you think a business could stay in business if they were run like the government? Anyone that ran a business like the government is being run would go to jail.

But "Obamacare" is very similar to what Romney put into place in Massachusetts, and very similar to other Rebublican ideas put forth in the past. The only reason that Obamacare is bad is because the Republican party is telling you it's bad; It's the same thing their presidential candidate already passed.

I have a friend of mine who has a beautiful wife and three great kids. The wife and one of the kids have lifelong medical conditions, and they have been unable to change insurance because they have pre-existing conditions. He pays more in healthcare than his mortgage is, and he's been unable to change because of the pre-existing conditions.

Can you please explain to me why Obamacare is bad?

Romney is the worst kind of business man. He borrowed money to buy companies, sold off what was profitable, led the rest into bankruptcy, and made a ton of money in "management" fees. He made hundreds of millions of dollars by forcing companies to go under, laying off tens of thousands in the process. And you want to put this man into office?

How are you going to fire people who aren't turning a profit for america?

There is a list of Obama voters in a newspaper called The Slammer at my gas station. :1orglaugh

Well, Willard does think that the USA is a company and even says it :

Ed you need to stop watching Fox man - you are the classic example of a mark...

You've been had - you fell for it - hook, line, and sinker.