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Nikki_Licks 08-24-2012 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantMercury (Post 19140487)
This fucking party is so full of these shit skids.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...he-gop-ticket/

Paul Ryan thinks your sister, wife, or daughter should have no choice but to deliver her rapist's baby. No matter how she feels about it.

http://www.bartcop.com/Akin-legitimate-rape.jpg

Doesn't make a difference what party it is.....all politicians are fucking scum sucking pigs...:2 cents:

shake 08-24-2012 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantMercury (Post 19143555)

:thumbsup

Paul Markham 08-24-2012 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 19143160)
Nope. The context was specifically about people in the US that think that by voting to have their neighbors money be taken, and given to others, is not "compassion". If I come to your house and take half of your stuff under threat of force and give it to other people, am I being "compassionate"?

meanwhile, I would like to see ANY study or research that shows that the government has a greater ability to help the poor than private charities. The fact that the government can take our money by force, or print more, is not an indication of their ability to do good works with that money in any kind of efficient, or even fair manner. Please show me a place that tells you that the government is better at this. I would be fascinated to read it.

So you want the poor to rely on charity. How noble of you.

Was it the poor that exported all their jobs to the Third World, because it's cheaper there?

The Government takes taxes which it trickles down into the economy far better than the rich will ever do. It employs people, builds things, etc. Maybe as much as 90% of taxes are spent in the US, which means people will be able to spend money on porn memberships. You would take the extra money and run down to the mall and buy yourself a nice imported shirt. Made in China.

The taxes are better off given to the poor. They will buy food, pay rent and spend it in america on the basics. In shops that are owned by the 1%.

Ultimately the problem with the US and many Western countries is you live way beyond your means. The Government has to print more to keep you in the luxury you're used to.

What would you spend the extra money on if you got a tax cut of 10%?

Some of you talk like it's 1960. Get real. The days of exporting more than you import, buying goods made in your country are long gone. Get with the program, it's 2012. :thumbsup

GrantMercury 08-24-2012 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Nikki_Licks (Post 19143623)
Doesn't make a difference what party it is.....all politicians are fucking scum sucking pigs...:2 cents:


They're not all the same. That's the lazy answer.

Any time you step into a voting booth, vote for the better option. Then keep an eye on them.

Voting is where it all starts - not where it ends. We need to be in touch with our elected officials, and let them know how we feel about what they do. If you don't, you're just giving the lobbyists total control.

Freedom isn't free. Part of the cost is staying informed, and staying in touch. They DO respond if they hear from enough constituents. :angrysoap

Paul Markham 08-24-2012 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantMercury (Post 19144212)
They're not all the same. That's the lazy answer.

Any time you step into a voting booth, vote for the better option. Then keep an eye on them.

Voting is where it all starts - not where it ends. We need to be in touch with our elected officials, and let them know how we feel about what they do. If you don't, you're just giving the lobbyists total control.

Freedom isn't free. Part of the cost is staying informed, and staying in touch. They DO respond if they hear from enough constituents. :angrysoap

QFT











When you stop protesting for what's right, the politicians don't need to take you guns away.

gleem 08-25-2012 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by spazlabz (Post 19143142)
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Locally (in the US and not a part of foreign policy) the government has a much greater ability to help the poor than all of the charitable organizations and churches combined.

HA! a good charity uses 75% to 95% of it's donations go directly to the people it's trying to help... Gov't has a 75% or MORE overhead on every dollar it gets from the taxpayer to pay for it's own existence, and bureaucracy... you couldn't be more wrong!

The best way to be least effective on any cause is to give the gov't the power and your money to do it.

Amazes me that most people have no idea it's THEIR money that the gov't uses to do all this crap and the only thing the gov't has ever proven to be good & efficient at is wasting tax money, paying themselves & their cronies, growing itself, and killing people around the world.

spazlabz 08-25-2012 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by gleem (Post 19144726)
HA! a good charity uses 75% to 95% of it's donations go directly to the people it's trying to help... Gov't has a 75% or MORE overhead on every dollar it gets from the taxpayer to pay for it's own existence, and bureaucracy... you couldn't be more wrong!

The best way to be least effective on any cause is to give the gov't the power and your money to do it.

Amazes me that most people have no idea it's THEIR money that the gov't uses to do all this crap and the only thing the gov't has ever proven to be good & efficient at is wasting tax money, paying themselves & their cronies, growing itself, and killing people around the world.

I'll quote me too
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Originally Posted by spazlabz (Post 19143178)
lets see, a study. Well I could spend a couple of hours researching this to try and win a debate on the interwebs or I could apply common sense... I'll take a swing at the latter.

How many people are on unemployment
how many people are still unemployed and off the unemployment statistics
How many people are on (yeah I call it this) welfare... all forms
how many people are on medicare/medicaid
what is the annual state and federal budget for unemployment, welfare, medicare/medicaid

I am assuming here that the difference between the sum total of all the above would greatly exceed the combined total of all domestic charitable and faith based organizations in the country based on what they give to help the poor in their communities. Why? because they do not have a budget of trillions.

sperbonzo brought up a good point, the government sucks at efficiency and oversight of the social safety net programs they provide... they suck at controlling cost in all areas of the budget and whose fault is that? Ours, the American public's fault for not holding them accountable. But to think the government does not have substantially more resources to help the poor and unemployed in this nation that far exceeds the ability of all charitable organizations here... well to believe that in my opinion is to just quit and say "the government is broke and aint nuttin can be done bout it"

I firmly believe we could do a tremendous amount of good for our citizens, poor, middle class, employed, unemployed, small business owners, all of them if the people we elected stopped spending money like a drunk rich whore on rodeo drive and started being much more responsible with how and where they spent the money. They need to negotiate prices for products and services and not just accept outrageous prices. They should hire my wife to look over what they spend money on and then have to explain why such-n-such costs so much more for them... that would learn them!

2MuchMark 08-25-2012 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DTK (Post 19140590)
This woman-hating, bigoted psychopath Akin also wants to repeal the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965.

http://www.boycotttheday.com/news/in...ng-rights-acts

It's not just Akin - its the entire GOP.

garce 08-25-2012 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by topsiteking (Post 19140519)
I guess this is shocking to those who do not read the laws they pass.LOL

Its shocking to everyone on the face of the Earth who does not believe in your imaginary "GOD ". Laws? Ha... you funny...

Paul Markham 08-25-2012 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by gleem (Post 19144726)
HA! a good charity uses 75% to 95% of it's donations go directly to the people it's trying to help... Gov't has a 75% or MORE overhead on every dollar it gets from the taxpayer to pay for it's own existence, and bureaucracy... you couldn't be more wrong!

The best way to be least effective on any cause is to give the gov't the power and your money to do it.

Amazes me that most people have no idea it's THEIR money that the gov't uses to do all this crap and the only thing the gov't has ever proven to be good & efficient at is wasting tax money, paying themselves & their cronies, growing itself, and killing people around the world.

So the Government cuts your taxes by $100 a month and you will give it to charities to look after the poor? :1orglaugh

Silly me, I was thinking you would go to the mall and spend it.

CyberHustler 08-25-2012 10:31 AM

A lot of great Americans started out on welfare in the projects...

50 welfare states.

GrantMercury 08-25-2012 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 19144812)
It's not just Akin - its the entire GOP.

Sad to say. But you're right. :disgust

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 08-25-2012 11:44 PM

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GrantMercury 08-26-2012 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 19145599)


Right. Paul Ryan is no better than Akin. Like Akin, Romney's VP thinks your daughter needs to give birth to her rapist's child - even if it kills her. I'm not making this shit up! :warning

GrantMercury 08-27-2012 09:00 AM

Mitt the coward won't let anyone ask about Akin.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1825864.html

The GOP bastards want control over your daughter's vagina. VOTE THESE PEOPLE OUT! :mad:

Joshua G 08-27-2012 09:11 AM

the republican position is complicated. posited primarily on the sanctity of life, & the idea that every conception is a creation of god. so in this worldview, the abortion of a several cell embryo is the same as "murder" as ann coulter describes. there is not much thought in the way of the mothers circumstances, or in the childs upbringing, in this worldview. This is because all of them are rich white christians who just hire nannies when they have an illegitimate child. Right bristol?

CourtneyR 08-27-2012 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by GrantMercury (Post 19140487)
This fucking party is so full of these shit skids.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...he-gop-ticket/

Paul Ryan thinks your sister, wife, or daughter should have no choice but to deliver her rapist's baby. No matter how she feels about it.

http://www.bartcop.com/Akin-legitimate-rape.jpg

that guy should get together with

Governor Jan Brewer

GrantMercury 08-27-2012 11:35 AM

Maher on Akin and the Rape-ublicans
 
"I don't want to waste another second thinking about Todd Akin, and his theory that you can't get pregnant unless your eggs are asking for it. Here's the only thing you need to know about Todd Akin and human anatomy: he's an asshole. What I want to talk about is how it's not a coincidence that the party of fundamentalism is also the party of fantasy. When I say religion is a mental illness, this is what I mean: it corrodes your mental faculties to the point where you can believe in tiny ninja warriors who hide in vaginas and lie in wait for bad people's sperm." :1orglaugh

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-m...b_1826617.html

nico-t 08-27-2012 02:22 PM

sideshow to divert the real issue at hand; that the same top economic and financial people are pulling the strings for decades no matter who's the president. Federal Reserve fucks up the world but stays in power no matter what because they control the money - that's what should be changing.

CDSmith 08-27-2012 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantMercury (Post 19140601)

One has to wonder just how much ignorance has to be packed into one's empty brainless fat stupid head in order for one to create and distribute such a campaign concept, much less think of it in the first place.

Same goes for all the morons who slap it on their vehicles.


What a great world we live in.

CyberHustler 08-27-2012 03:48 PM

Abortion is definitely murder. Just a widely accepted form, like capital punishment.

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils...week_fetus.jpg <--that is a little person right there...

:pimp

spazlabz 08-27-2012 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 19148406)
One has to wonder just how much ignorance has to be packed into one's empty brainless fat stupid head in order for one to create and distribute such a campaign concept, much less think of it in the first place.

Same goes for all the morons who slap it on their vehicles.


What a great world we live in.

Don't you realize when they got that sticker the owner of that vehicle thought it was a hoot, him and his backwoods beer swilling secret lovers leaned back and guffawed for hours pausing only momentarily to snot in air before blasting out more sidesplitting hilarity, spewing more racial epithets and patting each other on the ass?

ahhhh, good times ya'll

xxxjay 08-27-2012 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantMercury (Post 19142669)
Yup. There are millions of idiot women who vote GOP. They can't deal with their freedoms and want fewer of them. One has to wonder is they're upset about their right to vote. There was a time they couldn't do that. Do they consider those times "the good old days"?

http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/...n-too-busy.jpg

Best title for a thread ever

bhutocracy 08-28-2012 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberHustler (Post 19148544)
Abortion is definitely murder. Just a widely accepted form, like capital punishment.

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils...week_fetus.jpg <--that is a little person right there...

:pimp

If my wife got raped I would personally abort it with my fist without hesitation and my conscience would be 110% clear.

Also that picture is a lie, that isn't a 9 week old foetus.. Lying about the age of foetuses in photos is basic anti-abortion propaganda to fool people into having more of an emotional connection.

OY 08-28-2012 01:54 AM

And back to the topic at hand:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-s...b_1832377.html

"Paul Ryan Said Something That Should Force Him Off the Ticket, But You Probably Didn't Hear About It
Posted: 08/27/2012 8:14 am

Last week, Paul Ryan gave an interview in which, defending his position that there should be no excuses for abortion, he referred to rape as a "method of conception."

Wow, right? Talk about a benign euphemism. Rape -- RAPE! -- is now a "method of conception." You know, like love-making, just without the love.

There could be no greater testament to the utter abdication of responsibility by what passes for a "news" media in America in 2012 than that, despite the grotesquerie of this cavalierly callous comment, chances are better than good that this is the first you're hearing of it.

Here, watch it -- and try to figure out why this has gotten NO MAINSTREAM MEDIA play (not even here at the Huffington Post) despite it being, to my mind, a far more offensive remark than Todd Akin's imbecilic blurt of last weekend. What, are we tired of stupid remarks about rape now, so Ryan gets a free pass?

Given the demands for Akin's resignation from a mere Senate race when his musings on "legitimate rape" were publicized, what do you imagine the reaction would be if people were as familiar with VP wannabe Ryan's stunning statement? Might there be a cacophony of outrage? Might there be calls for his resignation from the ticket? Might there be a focus on how fundamentally oblivious these people who would make our laws are to not just women's but humans' rights and dignity? Sure, there might, but then of course people would have to have heard about it.

According to the man who would be the proverbial heartbeat away from the White House, and who in any event would -- given Romney's utter hollowness -- have an inordinate influence on the judicial appointments that will determine how much freedom our children get to live under, RAPE = "METHOD OF CONCEPTION." And yet, unless you're a frequenter of one of a dozen or so lefty blogs -- or my friend on Facebook -- you probably knew nothing about it.

I truly despair for the country my 14-year-old daughter is inheriting. That a remark this intensely revealing of the danger posed by this ticket can go basically unreported is as nauseating to me as the quote itself."

GrantMercury 08-30-2012 10:35 AM

Extremists.

"TAMPA, Fla. (AP) ? Republicans emphatically approved a toughly worded party platform at their national convention Tuesday that would ban all abortions and gay marriages, reshape Medicare into a voucher-like program and cut taxes to energize the economy and create jobs."

http://news.yahoo.com/gop-oks-platfo...42.html?_esi=1

http://www.google.com/url?source=img...QF-DoNSXZ0uZsw

arock10 08-30-2012 11:10 AM

I still wish they'd officially bring back slavery. Oh the good ole days

CyberHustler 08-30-2012 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by bhutocracy (Post 19149255)
If my wife got raped I would personally abort it with my fist without hesitation and my conscience would be 110% clear.

Hey, that's how you feel. I'm not here to judge whether or not abortion is right or wrong, I'd probably feel exactly like you. I'm just here to remind everyone that it is, in fact, murder... of an innocent person at that.

Paul Markham 08-30-2012 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantMercury (Post 19154199)
Extremists.

"TAMPA, Fla. (AP) ? Republicans emphatically approved a toughly worded party platform at their national convention Tuesday that would ban all abortions and gay marriages, reshape Medicare into a voucher-like program and cut taxes to energize the economy and create jobs."

http://news.yahoo.com/gop-oks-platfo...42.html?_esi=1

Obama will use this to ram it back down their throats. They would of picked up the Bible Belt or most of it. Now they've lost the rest.

GrantMercury 08-30-2012 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 19154637)
Obama will use this to ram it back down their throats. They would of picked up the Bible Belt or most of it. Now they've lost the rest.

I agree. Obama isn't afraid to throw punches at these bastards. It's nice to have a Dem that actually wants to win and knows how to fight. :ticking

http://throatchoppolitics.files.word...D559%26h%3D419

GrantMercury 08-30-2012 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberHustler (Post 19154399)
Hey, that's how you feel. I'm not here to judge whether or not abortion is right or wrong, I'd probably feel exactly like you. I'm just here to remind everyone that it is, in fact, murder... of an innocent person at that.

I understand that that's how you feel. I see the logic.

The problem with most of these GOP motherfuckers is they oppose sex education and contraception, too. Which leads to...ABORTION. These fucking uncompromising shitbags pandering to freaks who jump up and down in superchurches will doom our country if we let them.

And here's something not everyone knows about Mitt - he vetoed a bill that would have provided emergency contraception to rape victims at the ER. Emergency contraception is NOT an abortion - but fucking Mitt vetoed it anyway. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1194422.html

That was a pro-abortion act.

Vote out these backwards freaks.

http://fromthebottomofthebarrel.file....jpg%3Fw%3D535

angeleyes 08-30-2012 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by spazlabz (Post 19143199)
I had a chat with a German friend of mine a few months ago and he explained that unemployed people who want benefits there have to work to receive them. I am not sure I am describing it correctly but the idea of the government putting people to work until they can find real employment elsewhere is something I could get behind 100% I may be a serious liberal (social democrat by most American standards) but I think if you can work you should work and the government should be in a position to help you do it :2 cents:

edit: no, the babes cannot control if they get the preggers from a rapist or a family member

What about a young parent (Mother or Father) that lost a good paying job and has 2 or 3 kids (too young for school), and now they have to pay for daycare which would most likely be way more than they would earn at minimum wage (especially for 3 children). I believe (just an opinion) why they don't force some to work. If the person is single (as in NO kids) and able bodies, I believe they should work. OR --- Force them to work AND provide daycare. Which again, running day care centers for all children involved may outweigh just paying the parent the "welfare".

ReggieDurango 08-31-2012 12:23 AM

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kane 08-31-2012 12:28 AM

I was just watching The Daily Show and they had a brilliant segment where Samantha Bee was at the convention talking to people about the newly released republican platform. At one point she is talking to a woman about abortion and the woman says something like, "Well, in the case of pregnancy from rape, those numbers are so small it almost doesn't exist. I mean, I am sure there some cases like that, but it is basically non-existent." Bee then says, "Yep, just 32,000 cases per year." The woman gets this shocked look on her face and says, "Oh, is that the number, 32,000?" Bee nods and the woman just stands there with an almost ashamed look on her face. It was great.

Paul Markham 08-31-2012 02:21 AM

What about the Supreme court ruling on this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roe_v._Wade

Zoxxa 08-31-2012 02:46 AM

If I was a woman that was just raped, first thing I would do is go buy the fucking " morning after pill". Why would anyone let it get to the point where an abortion was required anyway.

kane 08-31-2012 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 19155404)
What about the Supreme court ruling on this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roe_v._Wade

The republicans don't want to hear reason like this. Every republican candidate talks about getting abortion outlawed and none ever do it and most don't even try. They have managed to get some regulations put on it, but they continue to play this card because it is what the religious right wants to hear and right now they are the base of the party.

kane 08-31-2012 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Zoxxa (Post 19155424)
If I was a woman that was just raped, first thing I would do is go buy the fucking " morning after pill". Why would anyone let it get to the point where an abortion was required anyway.

There are some younger girls who get raped and are so scared they don't tell anyone nor do they even know they have the option of the morning after pill. Also, some women are so traumatized by it they don't think about it. It is easy to say what you would do, until it happens to you.


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