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TDavid · 02-13-2003, 06:32 AM

bhutocracy - if you are too lazy to do a little bit of research when I gave you an obvious fucking trail of very specific information, then don't get on my case! lol

lEricPl · 02-13-2003, 06:36 AM

Thats one thing I don't get...

When I was younger, I knew plenty of smart 15, 16 year old girls fucking older guys. They were not being taken advantage of! They wanted it!

When I was 14 I lost my virginity to a 19 year old girl and when I was 15 I fucked a 24 year old girl.

When my twin brother was 15 he was bangin a 33 year old teacher!

Was I taken advantage of?

Was my brother being taken advantage of?

FUCK NO! We were hitten it!

Rape is a LOT different that consenting sex.

I personally would not bang a girl unless she was 18 or older though. (I'm 23 now by the way)

bhutocracy · 02-13-2003, 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TDavid
bhutocracy - if you are too lazy to do a little bit of research when I gave you an obvious fucking trail of very specific information, then don't get on my case! lol

it came out a lot more aggressive than it sounded..

even so. we're not in the wild goose chasing business here, if you've got something to contribute to the thread and if it's so little research and so easy, instead of giving us ten minutes of clues why not just cut to the chase?
screw a trail of breadcrumbs.. post a fucking link.
prick tease.

Libertine · 02-13-2003, 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PersianKitty

I already receive death threats....but....

you could say the same thing about any person convicted of any thing who's working in any industry. What about a convicted drug dealer who's out and working in the adult industry who gets busted again. Think people won't say "Well of course, it's the adult industry for ya and he was likely in cahoots with the people he worked with." What about the convicted thief, embezzler, bad check writer, etc etc. Any negative move anyone of us makes gets tossed on the group as a whole. There's no way to know who has what in their past. The businesses that reguire full background checks, do them. So far I haven't heard that the adult industry is one of them.

From what has been detailed on this board this guy did less than a year's time. I don't think your standard child molestor gets only a year's time. If it was sex with a 14 year old (now someone says 16 year old), I'm fairly certain there are some areas where that is a lesser crime. Not downplaying the act itself, but when I read the initial post, I envisioned someone who'd done several years in jail and just came out and began working in this industry...not someone who'd been in the industry, did a year's time, and is back.

Well, first of all, if it's about having sex with a consenting 14/16 year old, I do not consider this person a child abuser. Over here, that's not even illegal - even more, when I met my gf she was 14, now she is 16.

However, the problem I see is not one of legal nature, nor of ethical nature. The problem is the current witchhunt for "child abusers". Doing business with a drug dealer, thief or whatever might hurt your reputation. Being linked to a child abuser while being in the adult industry will destroy your reputation, quite likely not only online but offline as well. The media love stuff like this, and are quite happy to destroy a pornographer's life. That goes further than what I consider an "acceptable risk". So, people possibly doing business with this person simply have the right to know it, and then decide for themselves what they will do.

AOLGuy · 02-13-2003, 06:41 AM

Odd how when some facts come out, this is no longer such a disgusting thread...

Christ, and here I thought we were getting all serious.

If someone is doing something illegal, they are digging their own grave.

If they spread pics that are illegal, well, there are means of checking against it when purchasing content...

If this person wants to get into some shit, they will do so if they get back into this biz.

What they did was questionable, and they got caught.

Apparently, many here think that it isn't that terrible of a thing to begin with.

Personally, I stand by my earlier post.

Groove · 02-13-2003, 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Danielle
If you knew that a poster on a board was a convicted sex offender.... I'm talking about someone convicted of raping a child......

Daniellle, you said "raping a child" if you're talking about a guy having consentual sex with a 16 year old (ie young woman) -- GO FUCK YOURSELF! If you are indeed indeed talking about someone who has raped a child give us the evidence!

Brujah · 02-13-2003, 06:42 AM

A lot of speculation going on it sounds like, but didn't Daniell say it was a "child rapist" we're talking about ?

PersianKitty · 02-13-2003, 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah
A lot of speculation going on it sounds like, but didn't Daniell say it was a "child rapist" we're talking about ?

Don't know of any legal system that would let a child rapist out after less than a year.

lEricPl · 02-13-2003, 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah
A lot of speculation going on it sounds like, but didn't Daniell say it was a "child rapist" we're talking about ?

That's the thing....

People love to call sex with a consenting 16 year old girl "Statutory Rape".

If they are younger than age of consent? they are a child right?

So they are a "Child Rapist".

OneHungLo · 02-13-2003, 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TDavid
bhutocracy - if you are too lazy to do a little bit of research when I gave you an obvious fucking trail of very specific information, then don't get on my case! lol

I do recall reading this story about a guy who was having sex on some cam site with a girl that turned out to be 14 or 16, supposedly she gave a fake ID...i believe i read it on YNOT. Is that about right TDavid?

TDavid · 02-13-2003, 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bhutocracy

it came out a lot more aggressive than it sounded..

even so. we're not in the wild goose chasing business here, if you've got something to contribute to the thread and if it's so little research and so easy, instead of giving us ten minutes of clues why not just cut to the chase?
screw a trail of breadcrumbs.. post a fucking link.
prick tease.

Alright, I'll post what took about 10 seconds to find with your favorite SE lol

I clearly said I wasn't sure if this was the same person, so my original post was sort of a question. I am also not sure if it is acceptable on this board to post links to other adult webmaster boards, so if it isn't ok well, then a mod will have to remove the link to the following threads:

The discussion
http://chat.amateurmasters.com/publi...View.cgi?T=358

The article on YNOTMasters:
http://www.ynotmasters.com/news/ynew...702/page3.html

Now if it isn't the guy Danielle is talking about in this thread, don't blame me. It's just a guess because the timing is about right for this guy getting out of prison.

Carrie · 02-13-2003, 06:53 AM

Oh jesus christ, people. Go over to Amateur Masters and view the drama for yourself. I thought it had blown up two full weeks ago - it was pretty nasty. Seems like it's come back around again, though.

The person I believe Danielle is talking about is Tjay, who is out of prison now and is posting as Outcast. Fake IDs *seem* to be involved; a content shoot *seems* to be involved. The entire story is severely fucked up and the only people who know the truth are Tjay and the girl he had sex with.

There's always three sides to every story - so hold your opinion on the person or what's happened until you find out for *yourself* as much information as you can (and realize that you still won't know the full truth). There's plenty of it out there, btw - when this all went down before Tjay went to prison it was a *very* hot topic and discussed from just about every possible angle. You just have to do the research (Search buttons are useful for this).

12clicks · 02-13-2003, 06:57 AM

Let's see, if the guy did time, he's guilty of something. If you're doing business with him now that he's out, what are the odds that you won't get more attention from law enforcement?

Also, if its the guy Tdavid is talking about, I kinda remember the story too. Some lifetime loser in his late 30s was doing porn shoots with an underage girl. If that's your crime, go to jail. period.

If you're really interested, do some research. You'll be shocked at all the support he got from members of said amateur network.

lEricPl · 02-13-2003, 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks
Let's see, if the guy did time, he's guilty of something. If you're doing business with him now that he's out, what are the odds that you won't get more attention from law enforcement?

Also, if its the guy Tdavid is talking about, I kinda remember the story too. Some lifetime loser in his late 30s was doing porn shoots with an underage girl. If that's your crime, go to jail. period.

If you're really interested, do some research. You'll be shocked at all the support he got from members of said amateur network.

Lifetime Loser?

Quote:

So now here I am, I have been in the industry since 95, have never been in trouble because I don't skirt the law, and I follow the rules. I am a veteran of two wars. I worked for IBM for 4 years. I have a college education. I'm a nice guy, I don?t hurt anybody and I don?t make a habit of braking laws...BUT because this girl lied to my employers and I had sex with her, I am now a criminal, and I'm going out of town for the next 12 months.

Take a read..

http://www.ynotmasters.com/news/ynew...702/page3.html

bhutocracy · 02-13-2003, 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TDavid

Alright, I'll post what took about 10 seconds to find with your favorite SE lol

I clearly said I wasn't sure if this was the same person, so my original post was sort of a question. I am also not sure if it is acceptable on this board to post links to other adult webmaster boards, so if it isn't ok well, then a mod will have to remove the link to the following threads:

The discussion
http://chat.amateurmasters.com/publi...View.cgi?T=358

The article on YNOTMasters:
http://www.ynotmasters.com/news/ynew...702/page3.html

Now if it isn't the guy Danielle is talking about in this thread, don't blame me. It's just a guess because the timing is about right for this guy getting out of prison.

thank you.

SquarePants · 02-13-2003, 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PersianKitty

btw.. in my area just a few days ago there was a 37 year old man arrested for molesting a 2 month old baby girl. He was the mother's fiance. Of all things.. the guy's father is the head of the state department of corrections.

That should be sweet justice

TDavid · 02-13-2003, 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bhutocracy

thank you.

hehe, your welcome. The story is way fucked up like Carrie said above (Hi Carrie!).

Luciferr · 02-13-2003, 07:09 AM

As long as serius adult webmasters rejects all kind of kiddie-stuff and as long as all serius adult webmasters immediately reports ALL kind of kiddiestuff to the right authorities I really don´t think there is a problem here ...

I´ve been in that world - not as an abuser - but as a boyfriend to a poor bastard who has been abused in all sorts thinkeble ways ..

Kiddieporn, abuse of minors, rape or what the fuck people call it is the most disgusting, mean, hummiliating and damaging crime you possible can commit to a kid .. People whould say : "no, he could have killed the kid after abusing it." .. Well .. Trust me .. A lot of kids and a lot of grown whom has been abused as kids would WISH he´ve killed them ..

My girlfriend couldn´t stand it any longer in the age of 26 .. You know .. A lot of pills and then go to sleep ..

People who has been convicted or who has been involved in ANY kind of kiddieporn has NOTHING to do here and has NOTHING to do in this business AT all !

They should be in prison, and they should stay there untill the rot !

So .. My point is .. Report it. EVERYTIME .. Publish their names, adresses, photos etc. etc. Make their lives a living hell. Excactley as they made the kids lives a living hell ..

Sorry .. Just my opinion .. And I know i´m not the right one because I´ve been too close to it ..

But ..

May they all rot in hell .. Slowly !

Yours
Luciferr

Brujah · 02-13-2003, 07:10 AM

Ok so guy has sex with 14 year old girl on cam for his porn site. Goes to jail.

Do you want to buy some content from him ?

StacyCat · 02-13-2003, 07:13 AM

1) I dont think its the responsibility of the board admins to ban the guy. Thats kinda hard for me to say, becuase it might be the right thing to do.

this should be something self regulated. If its a problem with his probation, then there are enough people pissed at him to turn him in. If he just wants to post advice, he can do whatever he wants. But, he has to realize simply by being there, he is tarnishing the image of porn.

****
I also think a point we are missing is that he hired this 14 year old prostitute for the purpose of having sex with her on a webcam. So, he was guilty of creating child pornography. For this reason, and this reason alone, I think that he shouldnt be doing any form of adult entertainment.
****

There are lots of sides to this story, and I still think we havent heard all of it.

lEricPl · 02-13-2003, 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah
Ok so guy has sex with 14 year old girl on cam for his porn site. Goes to jail.

Do you want to buy some content from him ?

Well, I would stay away from the Teen content for sure.

bhutocracy · 02-13-2003, 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TDavid

hehe, your welcome. The story is way fucked up like Carrie said above (Hi Carrie!).

yeah.. not good.. I don't imagine him making many friends after that article.

12clicks · 02-13-2003, 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lEricPl

Lifetime loser?

yeah.

Quote:

Originally posted by lEricPl

Take a read..

http://www.ynotmasters.com/news/ynew...702/page3.html

I suggest you read the court documents instead of the defendants excuses on a chat board.

lEricPl · 02-13-2003, 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks

I suggest you read the court documents instead of the defendants excuses on a chat board.

If you read the entire article, they spoke to the District Attorney and turns out he was lying.

Read the article.

Quote:

And so, as it turns out, TJay was lying the entire time.

lEricPl · 02-13-2003, 07:26 AM

Seems to me the guy just fucked up and then lied on the boards.

I don't think he is a Lifetime Loser though.

I just think he fucked up.

12clicks · 02-13-2003, 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lEricPl
If you read the entire article, they spoke to the District Attorney and turns out he was lying.

Read the article.

yet you defend him against me. odd.

Quote:

Originally posted by lEricPl
Seems to me the guy just fucked up and then lied on the boards.

I don't think he is a Lifetime Loser though.

I just think he fucked up.

No son, it seems he's a convicted felon. Run along and do business with him if you'd like. I prefer to do my business with business people not assclowns fucking underage girls. But hey, that's just me.

lEricPl · 02-13-2003, 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks

No son, it seems he's a convicted felon. Run along and do business with him if you'd like. I prefer to do my business with business people not assclowns fucking underage girls. But hey, that's just me.

That "Son" thing sounds so endearing.

If I actually had any 'real' business in the adult market, I would choose not to do business with him for the same reason you stated above.

Brujah · 02-19-2003, 04:53 AM

So was this guy and his young girlfriend the "child rapist" ?

Warden · 03-05-2003, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX

?

Dude, they have computers in prisons for inmates now.

havent you seen the Pen pal email criminal database sites?

plenty of criminals online.

=)

Fletch,
I ran across this thread just now doing a search so sorry for the delayed response but, prisoners DO NOT have access to the internet from inside prison. I can assure you that.

02-13-2003, 06:42 AM	#57
Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	A lot of speculation going on it sounds like, but didn't Daniell say it was a "child rapist" we're talking about ? __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

02-13-2003, 06:57 AM	#63
12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,789	Let's see, if the guy did time, he's guilty of something. If you're doing business with him now that he's out, what are the odds that you won't get more attention from law enforcement? Also, if its the guy Tdavid is talking about, I kinda remember the story too. Some lifetime loser in his late 30s was doing porn shoots with an underage girl. If that's your crime, go to jail. period. If you're really interested, do some research. You'll be shocked at all the support he got from members of said amateur network. __________________ I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

02-13-2003, 07:09 AM	#68
Luciferr Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 50	As long as serius adult webmasters rejects all kind of kiddie-stuff and as long as all serius adult webmasters immediately reports ALL kind of kiddiestuff to the right authorities I really don´t think there is a problem here ... I´ve been in that world - not as an abuser - but as a boyfriend to a poor bastard who has been abused in all sorts thinkeble ways .. Kiddieporn, abuse of minors, rape or what the fuck people call it is the most disgusting, mean, hummiliating and damaging crime you possible can commit to a kid .. People whould say : "no, he could have killed the kid after abusing it." .. Well .. Trust me .. A lot of kids and a lot of grown whom has been abused as kids would WISH he´ve killed them .. My girlfriend couldn´t stand it any longer in the age of 26 .. You know .. A lot of pills and then go to sleep .. People who has been convicted or who has been involved in ANY kind of kiddieporn has NOTHING to do here and has NOTHING to do in this business AT all ! They should be in prison, and they should stay there untill the rot ! So .. My point is .. Report it. EVERYTIME .. Publish their names, adresses, photos etc. etc. Make their lives a living hell. Excactley as they made the kids lives a living hell .. Sorry .. Just my opinion .. And I know i´m not the right one because I´ve been too close to it .. But .. May they all rot in hell .. Slowly ! Yours Luciferr __________________ This is one damn tough business ! - http://www.sensuel.dk - Just another business

02-13-2003, 07:10 AM	#69
Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	Ok so guy has sex with 14 year old girl on cam for his porn site. Goes to jail. Do you want to buy some content from him ? __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

02-19-2003, 04:53 AM	#78
Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	So was this guy and his young girlfriend the "child rapist" ? __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

02-13-2003, 06:32 AM	#51
TDavid Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Washington State Posts: 36	bhutocracy - if you are too lazy to do a little bit of research when I gave you an obvious fucking trail of very specific information, then don't get on my case! lol

02-13-2003, 06:36 AM	#52
lEricPl Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: FL Posts: 1,062	Thats one thing I don't get... When I was younger, I knew plenty of smart 15, 16 year old girls fucking older guys. They were not being taken advantage of! They wanted it! When I was 14 I lost my virginity to a 19 year old girl and when I was 15 I fucked a 24 year old girl. When my twin brother was 15 he was bangin a 33 year old teacher! Was I taken advantage of? Was my brother being taken advantage of? FUCK NO! We were hitten it! Rape is a LOT different that consenting sex. I personally would not bang a girl unless she was 18 or older though. (I'm 23 now by the way)

02-13-2003, 06:41 AM	#55
AOLGuy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 1,261	Odd how when some facts come out, this is no longer such a disgusting thread... Christ, and here I thought we were getting all serious. If someone is doing something illegal, they are digging their own grave. If they spread pics that are illegal, well, there are means of checking against it when purchasing content... If this person wants to get into some shit, they will do so if they get back into this biz. What they did was questionable, and they got caught. Apparently, many here think that it isn't that terrible of a thing to begin with. Personally, I stand by my earlier post.

02-13-2003, 06:53 AM	#62
Carrie Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Virgin - nee Posts: 3,162	Oh jesus christ, people. Go over to Amateur Masters and view the drama for yourself. I thought it had blown up two full weeks ago - it was pretty nasty. Seems like it's come back around again, though. The person I believe Danielle is talking about is Tjay, who is out of prison now and is posting as Outcast. Fake IDs seem to be involved; a content shoot seems to be involved. The entire story is severely fucked up and the only people who know the truth are Tjay and the girl he had sex with. There's always three sides to every story - so hold your opinion on the person or what's happened until you find out for yourself as much information as you can (and realize that you still won't know the full truth). There's plenty of it out there, btw - when this all went down before Tjay went to prison it was a very hot topic and discussed from just about every possible angle. You just have to do the research (Search buttons are useful for this).

02-13-2003, 07:13 AM	#70
StacyCat Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,167	1) I dont think its the responsibility of the board admins to ban the guy. Thats kinda hard for me to say, becuase it might be the right thing to do. this should be something self regulated. If its a problem with his probation, then there are enough people pissed at him to turn him in. If he just wants to post advice, he can do whatever he wants. But, he has to realize simply by being there, he is tarnishing the image of porn. ** I also think a point we are missing is that he hired this 14 year old prostitute for the purpose of having sex with her on a webcam. So, he was guilty of creating child pornography. For this reason, and this reason alone, I think that he shouldnt be doing any form of adult entertainment. ** There are lots of sides to this story, and I still think we havent heard all of it.

02-13-2003, 07:26 AM	#75
lEricPl Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: FL Posts: 1,062	Seems to me the guy just fucked up and then lied on the boards. I don't think he is a Lifetime Loser though. I just think he fucked up.