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  • OldJeff
    Big Fucking hahahaha
    • Feb 2003
    • 2491

    #1

    What would happen if there were no Internet Piracy?

    None, no tubes, file lockers, hell take it to the extreme, no more mgp / tgps - put the Gennie back in the bottle ?

    I think the same people making money now would be making money, and the same people complaining about all that would be complaining about something else.
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  • alias
    aliasx
    • Apr 2001
    • 19010

    #2
    Paul Markham would be giving advice on another topic.
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    • alf6300
      Confirmed User
      • Sep 2007
      • 765

      #3
      Originally posted by OldJeff
      None, no tubes, file lockers, hell take it to the extreme, no more mgp / tgps - put the Gennie back in the bottle ?

      I think the same people making money now would be making money, and the same people complaining about all that would be complaining about something else.
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      • Roald
        SecretFriends.com
        • May 2001
        • 27910

        #4
        Originally posted by OldJeff
        None, no tubes, file lockers, hell take it to the extreme, no more mgp / tgps - put the Gennie back in the bottle ?

        I think the same people making money now would be making money, and the same people complaining about all that would be complaining about something else.
        people would complain about the lack of promo material and how it would not hurt the business to give out 10 picture samples and 15 second clips!!!


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        • Paul Markham
          Too old to care
          • Jun 2001
          • 52942

          #5
          Originally posted by Roald
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          • Paul Markham
            Too old to care
            • Jun 2001
            • 52942

            #6
            If there was an enforceable law, no porn before payment. Revenue would go back to the year of 2000. And include what was being spent offline.

            Yet is would be shared by 100 times more people.

            Numbers to illustrate the point. That the easier it is, the more who feed from the trough.



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            • Relentless
              www.EngineFood.com
              • Aug 2006
              • 5697

              #7
              Read the article in this month's FubarTimes Magazine to see the POV of many top industry people:

              http://issuu.com/fubartimes/docs/fu2.../1?mode=window


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              • DWB
                Registered User
                • Jul 2003
                • 31779

                #8
                Originally posted by OldJeff
                None, no tubes, file lockers, hell take it to the extreme, no more mgp / tgps - put the Gennie back in the bottle ?

                I think the same people making money now would be making money, and the same people complaining about all that would be complaining about something else.
                I suppose it is no coincidence that the largest companies these days are making money via piracy.

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                • Barefootsies
                  Choice is an Illusion
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 42635

                  #9
                  Sales would have STILL declined between the 1997/2000 gold rush and now. Period.

                  There is a lot more to do online now to take away people's attention than porn alone.

                  Could the percentage be less than today if were not for all of those other things mentioned? Sure. Could the adult business, industry wide, helped to prevent this by using DRM or other technology? Yes. Could affiliate programs not given away access to their entire members area helped slow the spread? Of course.

                  But regardless, the sales would have still declined, and people would still be blaming the boogie man of 2012 for their lack of adaptation or innovation 10-15 years later after the boom.

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                  • Harmon
                    ( ͡ʘ╭͜ʖ╮͡ʘ)
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 20012

                    #10
                    You people are morons. There was pretty much nothing to complain about other than higher payouts. Paul Markham chiming in about more content, longer content blah blah blah is a joke. He was clueless then, he is clueless now.

                    Last time I checked, people like myself were footing $25k VIP bar tabs like butter. No, Paul was not one of them.

                    Anybody asking this question wasn't there. It was DOLLARS per click, not cents. Wake the fuck up. People like Patrick (the hun), Sleazy, Mike Madthumbs, Worldsex... you have no fucking clue.

                    Stop talking about it. You look like idiots.
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                    • helterskelter808
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 3405

                      #11
                      Originally posted by OldJeff
                      None, no tubes, file lockers, hell take it to the extreme, no more mgp / tgps
                      I'd start a tube.

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                      • Paul Markham
                        Too old to care
                        • Jun 2001
                        • 52942

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Barefootsies
                        Sales would have STILL declined between the 1997/2000 gold rush and now. Period.

                        There is a lot more to do online now to take away people's attention than porn alone.

                        Could the percentage be less than today if were not for all of those other things mentioned? Sure. Could the adult business, industry wide, helped to prevent this by using DRM or other technology? Yes. Could affiliate programs not given away access to their entire members area helped slow the spread? Of course.

                        But regardless, the sales would have still declined, and people would still be blaming the boogie man of 2012 for their lack of adaptation or innovation 10-15 years later after the boom.

                        People do not buy porn to past the time. The increase in surfers, between 2000 and today, would replace any losses and then some.

                        To get an idea, think about prior to the Internet and all the forms of porn that had to be paid for to get some idea of the size. Retail stores, not production revenue.



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                        • Harmon
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                          • Mar 2004
                          • 20012

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Paul Markham
                          People do not buy porn to past the time. The increase in surfers, between 2000 and today, would replace any losses and then some.

                          To get an idea, think about prior to the Internet and all the forms of porn that had to be paid for to get some idea of the size. Retail stores, not production revenue.
                          You are such a fucking moron, it's not even funny. Please go jigsaw your life away into Alzheimer's.
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                          • CurrentlySober
                            Too lazy to wipe my ass
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 38957

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Relentless
                            Read the article in this month's FubarTimes Magazine to see the POV of many top industry people:

                            http://issuu.com/fubartimes/docs/fu2.../1?mode=window
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                            • Jel
                              Confirmed User
                              • Feb 2007
                              • 6904

                              #15
                              Originally posted by OldJeff
                              None, no tubes, file lockers, hell take it to the extreme, no more mgp / tgps - put the Gennie back in the bottle ?

                              I think the same people making money now would be making money, and the same people complaining about all that would be complaining about something else.
                              Hmm I dunno. They'd possibly be complaining about *something*, but they'd be making good (which may not be the same as your good, admittedly) money. Adult, specifically SE traffic, died overnight for me with Penguin. Killed it stone fucking dead, now at 1/15th of what I was doing 12 months ago - now, Google would obviously have still changed their algos over the years obviously, but I just can't compete in Google when they are geared up to give the surfers want they want, regardless of how the now top SERPs got to be able to give the surfer all that free stuff (which I have no real beef with, aside from the occasional rant when in a bad mood) in the first place.

                              I know one thing - rewind to 2005, when I went full-time, and I'd do things VERY differently as regards to acquiring/keeping traffic sources, and wouldn't be hurting as much as I am now

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                              • Paul Markham
                                Too old to care
                                • Jun 2001
                                • 52942

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Harmon
                                You people are morons. There was pretty much nothing to complain about other than higher payouts. Paul Markham chiming in about more content, longer content blah blah blah is a joke. He was clueless then, he is clueless now.

                                Last time I checked, people like myself were footing $25k VIP bar tabs like butter. No, Paul was not one of them.

                                Anybody asking this question wasn't there. It was DOLLARS per click, not cents. Wake the fuck up. People like Patrick (the hun), Sleazy, Mike Madthumbs, Worldsex... you have no fucking clue.

                                Stop talking about it. You look like idiots.
                                Originally posted by Harmon
                                You are such a fucking moron, it's not even funny. Please go jigsaw your life away into Alzheimer's.

                                Yes Harmon was once a big pimping guy acting like a someone giving out free drinks to people who didn't give a fuck who he was. Now he's a bitter guy with nothing to add.



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                                • AdultKing
                                  Raise Your Weapon
                                  • Jun 2003
                                  • 15601

                                  #17
                                  Personally I think revenues would be higher for many companies however that's not the point.

                                  Piracy is illegal, it's theft and it should be stopped regardless of profits at either end of the equation. Making money from Piracy aggravates the act of piracy leading to stiffer potential penalties.

                                  Robbing a bank that makes no profit is just as illegal as robbing a bank which makes an obscenely huge profit.

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                                  • k0nr4d
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Aug 2006
                                    • 9231

                                    #18
                                    There is actually an article on this very topic in the latest issue of fubartimes
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                                    • dgraves
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                                      • Nov 2005
                                      • 2283

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Roald
                                      people would complain about the lack of promo material and how it would not hurt the business to give out 10 picture samples and 15 second clips!!!
                                      You nailed it Roald!
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