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  • mayabong
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    #1

    The US is at the bottom of the list when it comes to homicides worldwide

    Well close to the bottom.
    You wouldn't think it by watching the news.
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  • tfs
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    #2
    What list are you looking at? Just curious...

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    • Robbie
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      #3
      Originally posted by tfs
      What list are you looking at? Just curious...
      You can look at this page and go down to the list of countries. The U.S. is of course waaaayyyyy down:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ate#By_country

      Everybody forgets that there are a lot of countries that have roving gangs of killers who slaughter entire villages daily.

      The U.S. is one of the safest places in the world...but yeah, to hear the news media carrying on you would think we were the Gaza strip or Syria.
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      • mayabong
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        #4
        Originally posted by Robbie
        You can look at this page and go down to the list of countries. The U.S. is of course waaaayyyyy down:
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ate#By_country

        Everybody forgets that there are a lot of countries that have roving gangs of killers who slaughter entire villages daily.

        The U.S. is one of the safest places in the world...but yeah, to hear the news media carrying on you would think we were the Gaza strip or Syria.
        What the hell is going on in greenland? lol
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        • fris
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            #6
            Originally posted by Robbie
            You can look at this page and go down to the list of countries. The U.S. is of course waaaayyyyy down:
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ate#By_country

            Everybody forgets that there are a lot of countries that have roving gangs of killers who slaughter entire villages daily.

            The U.S. is one of the safest places in the world...but yeah, to hear the news media carrying on you would think we were the Gaza strip or Syria.
            What, gun toting American's aren't the most homicidal people in the world? I'm flabbergasted.

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            • L-Pink
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              #7
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              • Theo
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                #8
                Palestine and USA both have 4.1 - funny the comment on Gaza :-)

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                • mineistaken
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Robbie
                  You can look at this page and go down to the list of countries. The U.S. is of course waaaayyyyy down:
                  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ate#By_country

                  Everybody forgets that there are a lot of countries that have roving gangs of killers who slaughter entire villages daily.

                  The U.S. is one of the safest places in the world...but yeah, to hear the news media carrying on you would think we were the Gaza strip or Syria.
                  Most countries that are worse than US are Africa/south America.
                  Almost all European countries are better.
                  So yeah big achievement to rank better than Latin America and Africa

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                  • kane
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                    • Aug 2001
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by mineistaken
                    Most countries that are worse than US are Africa/south America.
                    Almost all European countries are better.
                    So yeah big achievement to rank better than Latin America and Africa
                    that is if you sort it by total number. Of course our total number is going to be fairly high, we have a lot of people here, but when you sort by murder rate we are more in the middle of the list.

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                    • alias
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by fris
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                      • SleazyDream
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                        #12
                        compared to third world countries maybe..
                        compared to countries with similar standards of living, or greater standards of living (there are a lot of them, the US isn't that high) - then yes, the USA is unsafe
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                        • SleazyDream
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by AVN Theo
                          Palestine and USA both have 4.1 - funny the comment on Gaza :-)
                          jesus...... not much to brag about there.
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                          • mayabong
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by SleazyDream
                            compared to third world countries maybe..
                            compared to countries with similar standards of living, or greater standards of living (there are a lot of them, the US isn't that high) - then yes, the USA is unsafe
                            For Violent crime the UK is at the top or number 2 depending what you are reading. .
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                            • livexxx
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                              #15
                              click on country, click on Rate

                              United States 4.8 14,748 Americas Northern America

                              Pretty much every single country above is a country that a typical american doesnt even know where it is.

                              So yeppers, near the bottom if you count the middle as bottom. Around the 1st place of non-feudal or third world countries. So nice one, way to go

                              America, where the murder death kill rate is less than Belarus, but higher than Somalia
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                              • tfs
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by Robbie
                                You can look at this page and go down to the list of countries. The U.S. is of course waaaayyyyy down:
                                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ate#By_country

                                Everybody forgets that there are a lot of countries that have roving gangs of killers who slaughter entire villages daily.

                                The U.S. is one of the safest places in the world...but yeah, to hear the news media carrying on you would think we were the Gaza strip or Syria.
                                Thank you. Statistics = bullshit. People die. Shit happens.

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                                • SuckOnThis
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Robbie
                                  You can look at this page and go down to the list of countries. The U.S. is of course waaaayyyyy down:
                                  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ate#By_country

                                  Everybody forgets that there are a lot of countries that have roving gangs of killers who slaughter entire villages daily.

                                  The U.S. is one of the safest places in the world...but yeah, to hear the news media carrying on you would think we were the Gaza strip or Syria.

                                  All you've shown is the US is safer than most 3rd world countries, and that Yemen, Niger, Iran, Syria, Iraq, and Jordan are safer than the US. You did a fine job of proving your point.

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                                  • SleazyDream
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by SuckOnThis
                                    All you've shown is the US is safer than most 3rd world countries, and that Yemen, Niger, Iran, Syria, Iraq, and Jordan are safer than the US. You did a fine job of proving your point.
                                    and you trust the numbers on murder rates posted in Yemen, Niger, Iran, Syria, Iraq, and Jordan?


                                    come on, they can't even count their population accurately, yet alone the murder rate.
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                                    • kane
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                                      #19
                                      Here is an interesting stat.

                                      http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cr...e-total-crimes

                                      It shows total crimes by country. These are reported crimes so many of the third world countries where crimes are less likely to be reported are lower.

                                      Of course the US is number 1, but to me the interesting thing is that the UK is #2. They have half as many crimes as the US, but the US has 5 times as many people. Looks like Americans aren't the only people with a crime problem.

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                                      • Mutt
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                                        #20
                                        hahaha - nice try Robbie, the US has 3-4 times the murder rate of the other Western democracies.
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                                        • Mutt
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                                          #21
                                          United States 4.8

                                          Finland 2.2
                                          Canada 1.6
                                          United Kingdom 1.2
                                          Sweden 1.0
                                          Australia 1.0
                                          Denmark 0.9
                                          Italy 0.9
                                          Spain 0.8
                                          Germany 0.8
                                          Norway 0.6
                                          Japan 0.4


                                          and then there's Russia, earning the title of 'gangster state'

                                          Russia 10.2
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                                          • Rochard
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Robbie
                                            You can look at this page and go down to the list of countries. The U.S. is of course waaaayyyyy down:
                                            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ate#By_country

                                            Everybody forgets that there are a lot of countries that have roving gangs of killers who slaughter entire villages daily.

                                            The U.S. is one of the safest places in the world...but yeah, to hear the news media carrying on you would think we were the Gaza strip or Syria.
                                            If the US is so safe... WTF do we need firearms to protect ourselves?
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                                            • Supz
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by livexxx
                                              click on country, click on Rate

                                              United States 4.8 14,748 Americas Northern America

                                              Pretty much every single country above is a country that a typical american doesnt even know where it is.

                                              So yeppers, near the bottom if you count the middle as bottom. Around the 1st place of non-feudal or third world countries. So nice one, way to go

                                              America, where the murder death kill rate is less than Belarus, but higher than Somalia
                                              If you consider America has so many more people then some of these counties, yet they have more murders....

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                                              • Supz
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by kane
                                                Here is an interesting stat.

                                                http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cr...e-total-crimes

                                                It shows total crimes by country. These are reported crimes so many of the third world countries where crimes are less likely to be reported are lower.

                                                Of course the US is number 1, but to me the interesting thing is that the UK is #2. They have half as many crimes as the US, but the US has 5 times as many people. Looks like Americans aren't the only people with a crime problem.
                                                Ya, try not to use logic around here. Somehow people will try to prove you wrong. No one here seems to take into account the amount of people that are in America. NY alone has 1/3+ the amount of people the UK has.... Do people really think that you can't walk around and go to stores and such in fear of getting killed? Those people are what we call wackos...

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                                                • Supz
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Rochard
                                                  If the US is so safe... WTF do we need firearms to protect ourselves?
                                                  I live in NYC and have never had the thought of owning a gun. But as the constitution says. We do have the right.

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                                                  • adult-help
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by livexxx
                                                    click on country, click on Rate

                                                    United States 4.8 14,748 Americas Northern America

                                                    Pretty much every single country above is a country that a typical american doesnt even know where it is.

                                                    So yeppers, near the bottom if you count the middle as bottom. Around the 1st place of non-feudal or third world countries. So nice one, way to go

                                                    America, where the murder death kill rate is less than Belarus, but higher than Somalia

                                                    exactly! All those countries with higher homicide rates are some shity african countries or shit holes/3rd world countries. Take them out and compare it to the modern countries ,like you said, usa is on top
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                                                    • Markul
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Mutt
                                                      United States 4.8

                                                      Finland 2.2
                                                      Canada 1.6
                                                      United Kingdom 1.2
                                                      Sweden 1.0
                                                      Australia 1.0
                                                      Denmark 0.9
                                                      Italy 0.9
                                                      Spain 0.8
                                                      Germany 0.8
                                                      Norway 0.6
                                                      Japan 0.4


                                                      and then there's Russia, earning the title of 'gangster state'

                                                      Russia 10.2
                                                      So in Scandinavia, Denmark is the mudercapital judging by those numbers hahah

                                                      Edit: I can't read lol, it's Sweden. Whohhoo
                                                      Last edited by Markul; 02-16-2013, 10:36 PM.
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                                                      • fris
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Supz
                                                        I live in NYC and have never had the thought of owning a gun. But as the constitution says. We do have the right.
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                                                        • Dirty F
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Robbie
                                                          You can look at this page and go down to the list of countries. The U.S. is of course waaaayyyyy down:
                                                          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ate#By_country

                                                          Everybody forgets that there are a lot of countries that have roving gangs of killers who slaughter entire villages daily.

                                                          The U.S. is one of the safest places in the world...but yeah, to hear the news media carrying on you would think we were the Gaza strip or Syria.
                                                          Did you actually look at this list? Wtf? I hope you're just trolling.

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                                                          • Jakke PNG
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Markul
                                                            So in Scandinavia, Denmark is the mudercapital judging by those numbers hahah

                                                            Edit: I can't read lol, it's Sweden. Whohhoo
                                                            ummm. second edit in place?
                                                            ..and I'm off.

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                                                            • Mr Spock
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                                                              #31
                                                              The US is like paradise compared to my country - 4 per 100 000 vs 30 per 100 000. Seems like the countries with the highest murder rates are countries with large black populations , Is that racist or maybe just a fact that needs to be processed?

                                                              I would kill for a murder rate of 4 per 100 000

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                                                              • candyflip
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                If the US is so safe... WTF do we need firearms to protect ourselves?
                                                                You were a Marine and you don't understand the basis for the Second Amendment and why we actually have it?

                                                                After 10 years here, I'm sure most people think of you as dense. I'm starting to think you might actually be a tad bit retarded.

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                                                                • mineistaken
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by kane
                                                                  that is if you sort it by total number. Of course our total number is going to be fairly high, we have a lot of people here, but when you sort by murder rate we are more in the middle of the list.
                                                                  I am not that stupid. I sorted by average number per x people.

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                                                                  • mineistaken
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Supz
                                                                    Ya, try not to use logic around here. Somehow people will try to prove you wrong. No one here seems to take into account the amount of people that are in America. NY alone has 1/3+ the amount of people the UK has.... Do people really think that you can't walk around and go to stores and such in fear of getting killed? Those people are what we call wackos...
                                                                    LOL, I hope you are trolling. EVERYBODY is taking in account population size. Do you think people are really that stupid not to take in account population size in this case?

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                                                                    • Dirty F
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by candyflip
                                                                      You were a Marine and you don't understand the basis for the Second Amendment and why we actually have it?

                                                                      After 10 years here, I'm sure most people think of you as dense. I'm starting to think you might actually be a tad bit retarded.
                                                                      Do you realize something is very wrong as the country with the most guns is also the most unsafe in the western world?
                                                                      Could the fact that everyone and his brother has a gun have anything to do with it?

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                                                                      • mayabong
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                                        Do you realize something is very wrong as the country with the most guns is also the most unsafe in the western world?
                                                                        Could the fact that everyone and his brother has a gun have anything to do with it?
                                                                        Guess what you definition of "safe" is. The UK has a huge violent crime rate. Guess its ok as long as you aren't getting killed, who needs to defend themselves.
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                                                                        • SuckOnThis
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by mayabong
                                                                          Guess what you definition of "safe" is. The UK has a huge violent crime rate. Guess its ok as long as you aren't getting killed, who needs to defend themselves.
                                                                          Why arent they defending themselves with pencils or hammers since according the the gun nuts these are just as or more lethal?

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                                                                          • mayabong
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by SuckOnThis
                                                                            Why arent they defending themselves with pencils or hammers since according the the gun nuts these are just as or more lethal?
                                                                            Cause you aren't allowed to defend yourself in britain. You can only use proportional force. If someone breaks into your house and is unarmed, you can't stab them with a knife. If someone is punching you in the face you cant stab them. If someone comes at you with a baseball bat and you happen to have a gun you cant shoot them.

                                                                            Sounds like a great place to live.
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                                                                            • Dirty F
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by mayabong
                                                                              Cause you aren't allowed to defend yourself in britain. You can only use proportional force. If someone breaks into your house and is unarmed, you can't stab them with a knife. If someone is punching you in the face you cant stab them. If someone comes at you with a baseball bat and you happen to have a gun you cant shoot them.

                                                                              Sounds like a great place to live.
                                                                              You're a fucking imbecile.
                                                                              But that was already clear when you made the first post in this thread.

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                                                                              • mayabong
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                                                You're a fucking imbecile.
                                                                                But that was already clear when you made the first post in this thread.
                                                                                The reasonable force thing is also true in Canada. Call me what you want. The attacker is protected. Sounds like a great place to live..
                                                                                Last edited by mayabong; 02-17-2013, 08:39 AM.
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by mayabong
                                                                                  Cause you aren't allowed to defend yourself in britain. You can only use proportional force. If someone breaks into your house and is unarmed, you can't stab them with a knife. If someone is punching you in the face you cant stab them. If someone comes at you with a baseball bat and you happen to have a gun you cant shoot them.

                                                                                  Sounds like a great place to live.
                                                                                  Thats only a problem if you call the police, i can guarantee if someone comes in my house i'm not going to stand there and do nothing.
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                                                                                  • just a punk
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by Mutt
                                                                                    and then there's Russia, earning the title of 'gangster state'
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                                                                                    Can't argue on that. We have areal big homicide rate, but it's a very territorial related thing. I mean 90% of homicides are committed by redneck drinkers with a kitchen knife in small depressive cities.
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                                                                                    • Dirty F
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by CyberSEO
                                                                                      Can't argue on that. We have areal big homicide rate, but it's a very territorial related thing. I mean 90% of homicides are committed by redneck drinkers with a kitchen knife in small depressive cities.
                                                                                      How does that matter? It's like saying we have murders but they are commited by criminals so you can't really use them in stats.

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                                                                                      • Dirty F
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        This thread is hilarious.
                                                                                        What a fucking moron you have to be to claim the US is at the bottom of the list and then stats show is the biggest shithole in the western world and on the same level as Gaza

                                                                                        And instead of admitting he totally fucked up he continues to cry about other countries!

                                                                                        Let me guess, you're a gun owner?

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                                                                                        • candyflip
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                                                          Do you realize something is very wrong as the country with the most guns is also the most unsafe in the western world?
                                                                                          Could the fact that everyone and his brother has a gun have anything to do with it?
                                                                                          Dude I live in a city neighborhood. A few months back someone attempted a home invasion on my street and were run off by the owner and his rifle. They then proceeded to drop the loaded 9mm in my bushes and hide behind my garage.

                                                                                          There isn't a minute that I don't feel safe. No one here is cowering because they feel threatened. And not everyone and their brother owns guns, so I'm not sure where you get that from.

                                                                                          Either way, Rochard is a moron.

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                                                                                          • Dirty F
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by candyflip
                                                                                            Dude I live in a city neighborhood. A few months back someone attempted a home invasion on my street and were run off by the owner and his rifle. They then proceeded to drop the loaded 9mm in my bushes and hide behind my garage.

                                                                                            There isn't a minute that I don't feel safe. No one here is cowering because they feel threatened. And not everyone and their brother owns guns, so I'm not sure where you get that from.

                                                                                            Either way, Rochard is a moron.
                                                                                            You didn't answer the question.

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                                                                                            • mayabong
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                                                              This thread is hilarious.
                                                                                              What a fucking moron you have to be to claim the US is at the bottom of the list and then stats show is the biggest shithole in the western world and on the same level as Gaza

                                                                                              And instead of admitting he totally fucked up he continues to cry about other countries!

                                                                                              Let me guess, you're a gun owner?
                                                                                              I'm not a gun owner and have never shot one. Chicago has the strictest gun laws in the country and the highest murder rate. 70% of gun murders in the US are gang members shooting eachother. Oh well.
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                                                                                              • Supz
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                                                                This thread is hilarious.
                                                                                                What a fucking moron you have to be to claim the US is at the bottom of the list and then stats show is the biggest shithole in the western world and on the same level as Gaza

                                                                                                And instead of admitting he totally fucked up he continues to cry about other countries!

                                                                                                Let me guess, you're a gun owner?
                                                                                                What about Mexico?

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                                                                                                • SuckOnThis
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by mayabong
                                                                                                  I'm not a gun owner and have never shot one. Chicago has the strictest gun laws in the country and the highest murder rate. 70% of gun murders in the US are gang members shooting eachother. Oh well.

                                                                                                  Chicago does not have the highest murder rate, its not even in the top 10. New Orleans does. Followed by Detroit, St. Louis, Newark, Baltimore, Oakland, etc, etc.

                                                                                                  Where you getting your info from?

                                                                                                  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_..._by_crime_rate

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                                                                                                  • Robbie
                                                                                                    Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                                                                                    • Aug 2002
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by AVN Theo
                                                                                                    Palestine and USA both have 4.1 - funny the comment on Gaza :-)
                                                                                                    I'm guessing that they don't count all the people that get killed there during the back and forth with Israel in their murder stats. My comment was meant to say that if you lived on the Gaza strip your chances of getting killed are huge compared to you or I living here in the USA just because of the political situation there and all the violence between the Palestinians and Israel.

                                                                                                    Hell, I'm surprised they have enough time there to murder people with all the death that happens all around them already.
                                                                                                    -Robbie
                                                                                                    ClaudiaMarie.Com

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