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  • ruff
    I have a plan B
    • Aug 2004
    • 5507

    #1

    Voyeur Cash = Thieves

    Just a heads up on this company. They steal content. They are currently using exclusive video content on one of their site tours belonging to my client, wickedsexymelanie.com.
    I asked them to take it down and they ignored me. I am doing the formal takedown procedure today. You might want to check for your own content being stolen since thieves steal from everyone. If you are promoting this company, you are enabling the thieft and profiting on someone elses copyrighted material.

    If you want to check it out, see their Private 3some tour for Melanies video. Melanie told me last night they do not have her permission to use the videos.

    Scumbag motherfuckers.
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  • Barefootsies
    Choice is an Illusion
    • Feb 2005
    • 42635

    #2
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    • CaptainHowdy
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Dec 2004
      • 94727

      #3
      Great outing ... 9 out of 10 on the GFY scale.

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      • Fucking myself
        Confirmed User
        • Dec 2001
        • 234

        #4
        Dear Ruff,
        You just seriously fucked up. I own all rights to that content and I am replying to you now. Once I am done requesting that YOU remove the video from your website, (with a proper DMCA I might add), I will be consulting with my lawyer regarding this slanderous post.

        www.amxcontent.com
        ICQ: 338-361-716

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        • ShoeBox
          So Fucking Banned
          • May 2012
          • 2056

          #5
          Originally posted by Fucking myself
          Dear Ruff,
          You just seriously fucked up. I own all rights to that content and I am replying to you now. Once I am done requesting that YOU remove the video from your website, (with a proper DMCA I might add), I will be consulting with my lawyer regarding this slanderous post.
          hey

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          • Fucking myself
            Confirmed User
            • Dec 2001
            • 234

            #6
            Just in case anybody wants to see this dudes email and my reply. Notice that the email was received today. How does waiting a few hours tell you I am ignoring you ?

            Dear whoever you are,
            This is definately not the right way to submit a DMCA. I see that you have already posted on GFY. You should be very careful about threats on GFY. That might come back to bite you. We actually have ALL rights to the video you mention. We purchased the video and rights from Blue Skies on July 24th. 2010 for $350. We have ID, model releases, and a producers agreement. You may want to check your records. I can provide you with a copy of the Producers agreement if you like.
            I will give you this opportunity to now remove all copies of this video from your website. You have 48 hours to remove the video, or we will submit a DMCA to CCBill.
            I will also give you this opportunity to remove your slanderous post on GFY before I have to contact my lawyer.

            sincerely,
            Chris Lavis
            Splatnet Designs LLC
            c/o Voyeur-Cash.com


            -----Original Message-----
            From: [email protected]
            Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 6:34 PM
            To: [email protected]
            Subject: VC SUPPORT: Stolen Content

            207.244.182.61

            Get my exclusive video off the tour page for Private Threesome. Addicted to cock is video from WickedSexyMelanie.com and is my exclusive content. Since you have it inside your site, get it out of there as well. You have 24 hours til I take this to GFY.

            www.amxcontent.com
            ICQ: 338-361-716

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            • homegrownmof
              Confirmed User
              • Oct 2002
              • 408

              #7
              Originally posted by Fucking myself
              Dear Ruff,
              You just seriously fucked up. I own all rights to that content and I am replying to you now. Once I am done requesting that YOU remove the video from your website, (with a proper DMCA I might add), I will be consulting with my lawyer regarding this slanderous post.
              You bill your sites as the "Largest collection of XXX home videos on the planet"?

              we also have some Melanie Sky vids- i wonder if they sold same vids to multiple parties.
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              • bean-aid
                So Fucking Banned
                • Jun 2011
                • 16493

                #8
                Why would you DMCA ccbill? You DMCA the site owner, then the host, then the registrar, then whomever you choose. This should get interesting though... carry on.

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                • BIGTYMER
                  Junior Achiever
                  • Nov 2004
                  • 17066

                  #9

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                  • Fucking myself
                    Confirmed User
                    • Dec 2001
                    • 234

                    #10
                    Originally posted by homegrownmof
                    You bill your sites as the "Largest collection of XXX home videos on the planet"?

                    we also have some Melanie Sky vids- i wonder if they sold same vids to multiple parties.
                    Well, I gotta have a catch line right ? I respect that homegrownvideo IS the largest. You have been around a little longer than me

                    I wouldn't be surprised if they sold this video to multiple people. It's happened to me before, it will happen again.

                    Just so everyone knows, every single video we have is legally ours. Purchased with 2257 docs right from the couples themselves.

                    www.amxcontent.com
                    ICQ: 338-361-716

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                    • DWB
                      Registered User
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 31779

                      #11
                      As someone who has had content companies steal from me and try to "legally" sell content they stole on more than one occasion, I'd suggest that one of the parties make damn sure they actually own it. There is a chance you don't. You'd be surprised at some of these companies and what they try to pull off.

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                      • Fucking myself
                        Confirmed User
                        • Dec 2001
                        • 234

                        #12
                        Originally posted by beaner
                        Why would you DMCA ccbill? You DMCA the site owner, then the host, then the registrar, then whomever you choose. This should get interesting though... carry on.

                        I always give the opportunity for people to remove the video first. Then I would rather not waste my time further. Submitting to CCBill gets it done fast. It is amazing how quickly people respond when there billing is about to be cut off.

                        www.amxcontent.com
                        ICQ: 338-361-716

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                        • DWB
                          Registered User
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 31779

                          #13
                          Originally posted by beaner
                          Why would you DMCA ccbill? You DMCA the site owner, then the host, then the registrar, then whomever you choose. This should get interesting though... carry on.
                          You DMCA the billers when the owner ignores you. Reputable billing companies will make sure the content is down or they will suspend and sometimes terminate accounts over it.

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                          • Fucking myself
                            Confirmed User
                            • Dec 2001
                            • 234

                            #14
                            Originally posted by DWB
                            As someone who has had content companies steal from me and try to "legally" sell content they stole on more than one occasion, I'd suggest that one of the parties make damn sure they actually own it. There is a chance you don't. You'd be surprised at some of these companies and what they try to pull off.
                            Funny thing is, I bought this video directly from Melanie herself. She just doesn't remember obviously.

                            www.amxcontent.com
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                            • suesheboy
                              Confirmed User
                              • Nov 2002
                              • 5211

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Fucking myself
                              I will be consulting with my lawyer regarding this slanderous post.
                              Yo dip shit, look up the meaning of that word
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                              • Fucking myself
                                Confirmed User
                                • Dec 2001
                                • 234

                                #16
                                Originally posted by suesheboy
                                Yo dip shit, look up the meaning of that word
                                Who's the dipshit here ? You can't look it up yourself ?

                                slan·der (slndr)
                                n.
                                1. Oral communication or false statements injurious to a person's reputation.
                                2. A false and malicious statement or report about someone.
                                v. slan·dered, slan·der·ing, slan·ders
                                v.tr.
                                To utter a slander about. See Synonyms at malign.
                                v.intr.
                                To utter or spread slander.

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                                • Fucking myself
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Dec 2001
                                  • 234

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by DWB
                                  You DMCA the billers when the owner ignores you. Reputable billing companies will make sure the content is down or they will suspend and sometimes terminate accounts over it.
                                  Exactly !!

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                                  • bean-aid
                                    So Fucking Banned
                                    • Jun 2011
                                    • 16493

                                    #18
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                                    • shake
                                      frc
                                      • Jul 2003
                                      • 4663

                                      #19
                                      It will be interesting to see what happened here.
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                                      • Fucking myself
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Dec 2001
                                        • 234

                                        #20
                                        It is interesting that we haven't heard anything from the spaz that started this post !

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                                        • Colmike9
                                          (>^_^)b
                                          • Dec 2011
                                          • 7230

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Fucking myself
                                          It is interesting that we haven't heard anything from the spaz that started this post !


                                          That's what I'm waiting for since I like Voyeur Cash and want to know what's going on..
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                                          • Nikki_Licks
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • May 2005
                                            • 6323

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Fucking myself
                                            Who's the dipshit here ? You can't look it up yourself ?

                                            slan·der (slndr)
                                            n.
                                            1. Oral communication or false statements injurious to a person's reputation.
                                            2. A false and malicious statement or report about someone.
                                            v. slan·dered, slan·der·ing, slan·ders
                                            v.tr.
                                            To utter a slander about. See Synonyms at malign.
                                            v.intr.
                                            To utter or spread slander.
                                            Actually, Libel is written defamation and slander is oral defamation.....just saying.

                                            Hope you guys get this all worked out. I would not doubt it if multiple copies were sold........we have all seen it in the past

                                            Maybe the OP should have waited a bit longer before calling you out with that thread title ;)
                                            Last edited by Nikki_Licks; 08-09-2012, 03:55 PM.
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                                            • CYF
                                              Coupon Guru
                                              • Mar 2009
                                              • 10973

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Fucking myself
                                              Who's the dipshit here ? You can't look it up yourself ?

                                              slan·der (slndr)
                                              n.
                                              1. Oral communication or false statements injurious to a person's reputation.
                                              2. A false and malicious statement or report about someone.
                                              v. slan·dered, slan·der·ing, slan·ders
                                              v.tr.
                                              To utter a slander about. See Synonyms at malign.
                                              v.intr.
                                              To utter or spread slander.
                                              slander is spoken, libel is written.
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                                              • WebCashMaker
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Feb 2008
                                                • 1726

                                                #24
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                                                Last edited by WebCashMaker; 08-09-2012, 04:00 PM.




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                                                • Fucking myself
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Dec 2001
                                                  • 234

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by CYF
                                                  slander is spoken, libel is written.
                                                  Looks like that is open to interpretation.

                                                  2. A false and malicious statement or report about someone.

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                                                  • suesheboy
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Nov 2002
                                                    • 5211

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by CYF
                                                    slander is spoken, libel is written.
                                                    Thank you.

                                                    Funny how a dip shit didn't even know he is one even when called out.
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                                                    • bean-aid
                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                      • Jun 2011
                                                      • 16493

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Fucking myself
                                                      Looks like that is open to interpretation.

                                                      2. A false and malicious statement or report about someone.
                                                      It is not open to interpretation... slander is vocally spreading false information, libel is in text. Forums are text, emails are text... therefore it is libel... there is no debate at all about the interpretation.

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                                                      • Fucking myself
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Dec 2001
                                                        • 234

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Nikki_Licks
                                                        Actually, Libel is written defamation and slander is oral defamation.....just saying.

                                                        Hope you guys get this all worked out. I would not doubt it if multiple copies were sold........we have all seen it in the past

                                                        Maybe the OP should have waited a bit longer before calling you out with that thread title ;)
                                                        OK. My bad. You are right !
                                                        Last edited by Fucking myself; 08-09-2012, 04:05 PM. Reason: cause im a retard

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                                                        • suesheboy
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Nov 2002
                                                          • 5211

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Fucking myself
                                                          Looks like that is open to interpretation.

                                                          2. A false and malicious statement or report about someone.
                                                          ROFL...OMG

                                                          God you are slow.

                                                          Looks like you are "fucking yourself" or just plain fucked.
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                                                          • Fucking myself
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Dec 2001
                                                            • 234

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by suesheboy
                                                            Thank you.

                                                            Funny how a dip shit didn't even know he is one even when called out.
                                                            OK. My bad. You are right. But why would you call me out and call me a dip shit for making such a simple mistake ? Somebody just called me a Thief on GFY in front of thousands in the industry. I am a little pissed about it.

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                                                            • Colmike9
                                                              (>^_^)b
                                                              • Dec 2011
                                                              • 7230

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by suesheboy
                                                              ROFL...OMG

                                                              God you are slow.

                                                              Looks like you are "fucking yourself" or just plain fucked.
                                                              I'm guessing just bored and trolling until the OP responds..
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                                                              • topsiteking
                                                                ICQ: 470687453
                                                                • Dec 2007
                                                                • 3571

                                                                #32
                                                                "You have 24 hours til I take this to GFY."


                                                                Is this the new thing to do now?
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                                                                • Fucking myself
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Dec 2001
                                                                  • 234

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by topsiteking
                                                                  "You have 24 hours til I take this to GFY."


                                                                  Is this the new thing to do now?
                                                                  He didn't even wait an hour.

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                                                                  • Colmike9
                                                                    (>^_^)b
                                                                    • Dec 2011
                                                                    • 7230

                                                                    #34
                                                                    The OP noticed that on another thread randomly when I mentioned Voyeur Cash as a referral, which probably lost me a few signups. So you owe me like 5 bucks if this is a false alarm..
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                                                                    • suesheboy
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                                      • 5211

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Colmike7
                                                                      I'm guessing just bored and trolling until the OP responds..
                                                                      Not bored at all

                                                                      More often thieves that are called out here are actually thieves.

                                                                      Huffing and puffing about lawyers without a clue to what he is talking about shows his level of business education and more often than not skills.

                                                                      Defending his error over and over again makes him at least semi-retarded (no disrespect to retards meant).
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                                                                      • Colmike9
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                                                                        • Dec 2011
                                                                        • 7230

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by suesheboy
                                                                        Not bored at all

                                                                        More often thieves that are called out here are actually thieves.

                                                                        Huffing and puffing about lawyers without a clue to what he is talking about shows his level of business education and more often than not skills.
                                                                        Probably. I was just talking about the little argument about the difference between libel and slander..
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                                                                        • bigluv
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Jul 2008
                                                                          • 850

                                                                          #37
                                                                          It's so unexpected that a dipshit would go running to GFY to be the internet police and then turn out to be proved a dipshit.
                                                                          On the word of ... a model? Oh! Sorry romeo!

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                                                                          • ruff
                                                                            I have a plan B
                                                                            • Aug 2004
                                                                            • 5507

                                                                            #38
                                                                            I am the webmaster for WickedSexyMelanie.com. I contacted her and her husband last night. They checked out your site and told me they never heard of you and never sold you their videos. I am contacting them again to check out this thread and you can see what they say about their content on your site.
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                                                                            • bean-aid
                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                              • Jun 2011
                                                                              • 16493

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by ruff
                                                                              Melanie told me last night they do not have her permission to use the videos.

                                                                              Scumbag motherfuckers.
                                                                              Is it possible Melanie does not know shit? Just playing devils advocate but certainly would not be the first a model is dumb as shit.

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                                                                              • ruff
                                                                                I have a plan B
                                                                                • Aug 2004
                                                                                • 5507

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by Fucking myself
                                                                                Dear Ruff,
                                                                                You just seriously fucked up. I own all rights to that content and I am replying to you now. Once I am done requesting that YOU remove the video from your website, (with a proper DMCA I might add), I will be consulting with my lawyer regarding this slanderous post.
                                                                                Are you another asshole that's going to own me? Fuck you. I've been Melanie's exclusive webmaster for years now so fuck your DMCA.
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                                                                                • ruff
                                                                                  I have a plan B
                                                                                  • Aug 2004
                                                                                  • 5507

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by bigluv
                                                                                  It's so unexpected that a dipshit would go running to GFY to be the internet police and then turn out to be proved a dipshit.
                                                                                  On the word of ... a model? Oh! Sorry romeo!
                                                                                  Fuck you.
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                                                                                  • Fucking myself
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Dec 2001
                                                                                    • 234

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by ruff
                                                                                    Are you another asshole that's going to own me? Fuck you. I've been Melanie's exclusive webmaster for years now so fuck your DMCA.
                                                                                    Well, "Melanie's Exclusive webmaster for years now" you fucked up. Just admit it. You went about it the wrong way. You sent me an email that didn't even have your name in it threatening to post on GFY within 24 hours, and then just went and posted right away. You didn't even wait for my reply. Now you have created a thread calling me a thief in front of thousands of people in the industry, including at least one of my affiliates, and then you come back with that. Who the fuck do you think you are ? You are only hurting your business and Melanie's by being such a dick. Just be a man and admit you fucked up.

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                                                                                    • ruff
                                                                                      I have a plan B
                                                                                      • Aug 2004
                                                                                      • 5507

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by Fucking myself
                                                                                      Well, "Melanie's Exclusive webmaster for years now" you fucked up. Just admit it. You went about it the wrong way. You sent me an email that didn't even have your name in it threatening to post on GFY within 24 hours, and then just went and posted right away. You didn't even wait for my reply. Now you have created a thread calling me a thief in front of thousands of people in the industry, including at least one of my affiliates, and then you come back with that. Who the fuck do you think you are ? You are only hurting your business and Melanie's by being such a dick. Just be a man and admit you fucked up.
                                                                                      If I fucked up I will apologize. Right now my information directly from Melanie and her husband is you don't have permission to use the videos. I have contacted them again to view this thread and respond.
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                                                                                      • bean-aid
                                                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                                                        • Jun 2011
                                                                                        • 16493

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by ruff
                                                                                        If I fucked up I will apologize. Right now my information directly from Melanie and her husband is you don't have permission to use the videos. I have contacted them again to view this thread and respond.
                                                                                        My guess is they have the rights. Have you ever seen a shoot before? The girl sign whatever and never asks for a copy. That's just how it rolls. You should have realized that imo.

                                                                                        I think you should apologize now and wait for the verdict later because rule #1, don't out someone unless you can back it.

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                                                                                        • topsiteking
                                                                                          ICQ: 470687453
                                                                                          • Dec 2007
                                                                                          • 3571

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by beaner
                                                                                          My guess is they have the rights. Have you ever seen a shoot before? The girl sign whatever and never asks for a copy. That's just how it rolls. You should have realized that imo.

                                                                                          I think you should apologize now and wait for the verdict later because rule #1, don't out someone unless you can back it.
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                                                                                          • ruff
                                                                                            I have a plan B
                                                                                            • Aug 2004
                                                                                            • 5507

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by beaner
                                                                                            My guess is they have the rights. Have you ever seen a shoot before? The girl sign whatever and never asks for a copy. That's just how it rolls. You should have realized that imo.

                                                                                            I think you should apologize now and wait for the verdict later because rule #1, don't out someone unless you can back it.
                                                                                            Actually I have seen a shoot before. Many shoots as a matter of fact. Melanie and her husband produce their own content and control their own content. That's how this situation rolls, bro. I have been asked numerous times by them to get their content down from sites using it illegally. I have only their word to go on when they tell me their content is used without their permission. They will check this thread out and respond themselves. If I owe an apology, I will make one.
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                                                                                            • Va2k
                                                                                              I’m still alive barley.
                                                                                              • Oct 2001
                                                                                              • 10060

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by ruff
                                                                                              Actually I have seen a shoot before. Many shoots as a matter of fact. Melanie and her husband produce their own content and control their own content. That's how this situation rolls, bro. I have been asked numerous times by them to get their content down from sites using it illegally. I have only their word to go on when they tell me their content is used without their permission. They will check this thread out and respond themselves. If I owe an apology, I will make one.
                                                                                              Shit happens like this all the time, you should of just waited the 24 hours like you stated before bringing this to this board! Just my

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                                                                                              • bean-aid
                                                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                • Jun 2011
                                                                                                • 16493

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by ruff
                                                                                                Actually I have seen a shoot before. Many shoots as a matter of fact. Melanie and her husband produce their own content and control their own content. That's how this situation rolls, bro. I have been asked numerous times by them to get their content down from sites using it illegally. I have only their word to go on when they tell me their content is used without their permission. They will check this thread out and respond themselves. If I owe an apology, I will make one.
                                                                                                The guy already said he has 2257 docs and paid for it. So it is not him you are after... it is 1 of these 2 scenerios:

                                                                                                1) Melanie in fact signed something years ago and doesn't remember.
                                                                                                2) The person who sold Melanie's video did so without proper authority.

                                                                                                It seems clear though... you should give homegrown "fucking myself" an apology because earlier on, he arleady said he had all the doc's... I tend to believe him. So who is in the wrong???

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                                                                                                • MrCain
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                                                                                                  • Fucking myself
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by beaner
                                                                                                    The guy already said he has 2257 docs and paid for it. So it is not him you are after... it is 1 of these 2 scenerios:

                                                                                                    1) Melanie in fact signed something years ago and doesn't remember.
                                                                                                    2) The person who sold Melanie's video did so without proper authority.

                                                                                                    It seems clear though... you should give homegrown "fucking myself" an apology because earlier on, he arleady said he had all the doc's... I tend to believe him. So who is in the wrong???


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