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GrantMercury 08-08-2012 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronzo (Post 19111473)
He will without hesitation tell you whatever he thinks you want to hear to win an election.

Dude. That's MITT!!!! :eek7

That SOB flips more than a crackhouse mattress.

GrantMercury 08-08-2012 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronzo (Post 19111473)
A vote for Obama is a vote for further annilation of the U.S. economy... this should be very, very obvious to anyone who possesses even the slightest amount of intelligence.

No. What should be very, very obvious is that:

1. We are in a worldwide recession.

2. The GOP has done everything they can to sabotage this economy, and this president. They have used the filibuster an unprecedented number of times. They won't EVEN DEBATE Obama's jobs bills. They are the party of "NO".

This country was in fine shape when Bill Clinton left office. The Rethugs stole the White House and everything WENT TO SHIT!! Recession. Needless war. Warrant-less wiretapping. Torture. Unemployment. Wall street crash. Record deficit. Housing bubble bust.

Now people do nothing but blame Obama for not cleaning up Bush's mess fast enough!

So they want Bush 2.0 - Mittens.

IllTestYourGirls 08-09-2012 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 19111362)
You already know the answer to this, don't even know why you're asking to be honest.

Most Libertarians are closer aligned with Republicans than Democrats, and in the General Election will choose the Republican in order to keep the Democrat from winning. Depending on which state you live in, there's a good chance Libertarians are voting for Romney instead of Gary Johnson.

Gary Johnson is polling around 6%. So I would say most libertarians are voting for Johnson.

In Colorado there is good evidence that Obama is losing support to Johnson.

IllTestYourGirls 08-09-2012 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by GrantMercury (Post 19111513)
No. What should be very, very obvious is that:

1. We are in a worldwide recession.

2. The GOP has done everything they can to sabotage this economy, and this president. They have used the filibuster an unprecedented number of times. They won't EVEN DEBATE Obama's jobs bills. They are the party of "NO".

This country was in fine shape when Bill Clinton left office. The Rethugs stole the White House and everything WENT TO SHIT!! Recession. Needless war. Warrant-less wiretapping. Torture. Unemployment. Wall street crash. Record deficit. Housing bubble bust.

Now people do nothing but blame Obama for not cleaning up Bush's mess fast enough!

So they want Bush 2.0 - Mittens.

Obama was Bush 2.0.

Using Obama's logic that he inherited the economy. Bill Clinton is responsible for the first 4 years of the Bush's economy. Clinton's best years where when he took office and it declined from there. So Clinton's first 4 years were Bush 1's economy.

The endless war, torture etc were all happening under Clinton. The news just didn't report it. Did you know that Clinton dropped more bombs on Iraq than Bush 1? Did you know the war with Iraq escalated under Clinton?

Warrant-less searches, wire tapping, etc was passed BIPARTISAN-LY. The patriot act passed 100-0. The Iraq authorization was pushed using Clinton era data and passed with majority support from the democrats.

Republicans and Democrats really are the same party.

slavdogg 08-09-2012 06:00 PM

the only poll that matters

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows Mitt Romney attracting support from 47% of voters nationwide, while President Obama earns the vote from 43%. Four percent (4%) prefer some other candidate, and five percent (5%) are undecided.

The president enjoyed a bounce immediately following release of last week’s job report. However, the bounce has faded, and the race is back to where it was just before Friday’s report. See tracking history. Following that jobs report, consumer confidence fell to a new 2012 low yesterday and is barely above that low today. Just 24% believe the jobs market has improved over the past year, while 44% believe it has gotten worse.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ..._tracking_poll

kane 08-09-2012 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by slavdogg (Post 19113169)
the only poll that matters

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows Mitt Romney attracting support from 47% of voters nationwide, while President Obama earns the vote from 43%. Four percent (4%) prefer some other candidate, and five percent (5%) are undecided.

The president enjoyed a bounce immediately following release of last week?s job report. However, the bounce has faded, and the race is back to where it was just before Friday?s report. See tracking history. Following that jobs report, consumer confidence fell to a new 2012 low yesterday and is barely above that low today. Just 24% believe the jobs market has improved over the past year, while 44% believe it has gotten worse.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ..._tracking_poll

Rasumessen is notorious for skewing republican for a few reasons. http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp201...rasmussen.html

The only thing that matters is the electoral college where Romney is currently getting his ass handed to him.

http://www.electoral-vote.com/

GrantMercury 08-09-2012 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 19113195)
Rasumessen is notorious for skewing republican for a few reasons.

The only thing that matters is the electoral college where Romney is currently getting his ass handed to him.

That's exactly right. We don't have one big election. We have 50 small ones. National polls mean very little. And yes, Willard ain't doing well in swing states, and with some critical voting demographics.

Fuck Mitt, the little rich tax cheat.

Matt 26z 08-10-2012 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Ed Hammer (Post 19111146)
He has taken more freedom away,

Exactly what freedoms have you lost under Obama?

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Originally Posted by Ed Hammer (Post 19111146)
and put us in a bigger debt than any other president in history.

Without all of the spending we would be in a depression right now.

The real problem is a Republican congress that won't raise taxes on the wealthy. There is a severe shortage of currency in day-to-day circulation with the top 400 households in the US now holding 60% of the nation's wealth. The only way to redistribute that money is to tax those people at an extremely high rate (such as France's planned 75% upper bracket tax rate) or wait for them to die and get them with the death tax.

It's looking like Obama and the Republican congress will both be re-elected, which means 4 more years of a stalemate and absolutely nothing getting done. If Romney pulls it off, you can bet on that 60% figure going up even more and adding years onto our recovery time.

buzzard 08-10-2012 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 19110382)
Most people hate Ryan even more than Mittens, so I hope he DOES pick him.

It will guarantee a GOP loss in November. :thumbsup

GOP? You STILL think there's a difference between parties?
Get help.

No wonder the globalists want us dead

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GregE 08-10-2012 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by keysync (Post 19109758)
If Romney picks Paul Ryan I think he'll win and it won't matter if he's a turd or not.

I think not.

Most everyone within 10 years of retirement age, and everybody past it, will vote to keep their Social Security benefits and that would mean voting Democratic.

That's a whole lot of voters.

No way Romney picks Ryan.

nico-t 08-10-2012 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 19110382)
Most people hate Ryan even more than Mittens, so I hope he DOES pick him.

It will guarantee a GOP loss in November. :thumbsup

Lol. Why the thumbs up, what difference does it make? They all abide to the same corporate agendas, whether it's democrats or republicans. The voting system is rotten and corrupted to the core.

GregE 08-10-2012 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Freaky_Akula (Post 19111300)
Is Guantanamo still open?

Who cares?

I sure as hell don't.

GregE 08-10-2012 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 19111399)
Another example is the undecided voters. You hear about people who are undecided right up until the day of the election. How the fuck can that be? You can't escape the election. hell, I can't see how someone could still be undecided today. We have had Obama for 3+ years. You either think he has done a good/decent job or not. You also can easily decide if you want him to have another four years. If you don't want him to have another four years then your decision is pretty much made. How out of touch with the world around you do you have to be for it to be election day and you still be undecided?

It's not that simple for everybody.

There's lots of folks who don't particularly want Obama for another four years, but . . . they're not so sure that the other guy won't be even worse.

Viewed from that perspective, it's not such an easy decision.

slavdogg 08-10-2012 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 19113601)

The real problem is a Republican congress that won't raise taxes on the wealthy. There is a severe shortage of currency in day-to-day circulation with the top 400 households in the US now holding 60% of the nation's wealth. The only way to redistribute that money is to tax those people at an extremely high rate (such as France's planned 75% upper bracket tax rate) or wait for them to die and get them with the death tax.
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there is 70 trillion USD in circulation right now.
Thats 5x the GDP.. more USD in circulation that anytime in the history


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