Yeah, I don't know about the rest of the country but I see help wanted signs all over the place and know that's usually the last ditch effort to try and hire people.

Correct.

I have tried to hire some worker bees here locally over the past couple of years. You do not need any sort of "skills" to do cut and paste work for updating blogs, BIOS, FHG, links, or alike. However, you can't find anyone decent who has any sort of work ethic, assuming you can get them to work for minimum at all.

My personal favorite, as I have heard it a number of times, goes something like this... "Um yeah, I know I do not have any skills or experience, but I am not going to work for minimum wage. I need $10-12/hour as I've got bills to pay."

There are plenty of other examples from strippers, models, and worker bees that almost have me laugh out loud in their face.

I understand we all "have bills to pay". But the wage and type of work was clearly listed. If you need a $10/hour job, do not apply for a minimum wage data entry monkey job. Especially if you have little experience in the first place.

No one wants to start at the bottom and work their way up. Or show you that they have the skills, and renegotiate later. Everyone wants to start out at MTV Cribs pay because they "expect" to make that. Otherwise, it's not worth their time. I guess being unemployed and working for $0.00 is better than working for minimum wage because that is somehow 'beneath you'.

:disgust

When your grandfather worked,there were unions and you got paid a decent wage that you could raise a family on.

Indeed.

People can bitch about unions all of they like, most doing so are ignorant. It's not to say that today's unions do not have problems. But so does anything else (corporations, government, non-profits, etc.). For those who work out "in the real world" they can thank the unions for most of the working conditions, wages, and benefits they enjoy today.

Open a history book, and see what existed before them at the turn of the last century.

:2 cents:

A $100,000 Factory Job. What's Uncool About That? .......

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/100-00...154000356.html

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Sure, there's lazy people - welfare leechers, whatever you want to call them. BUT - the majority of people I see out of work have never been on any kind of government assistance, guys in the construction industry, shit like that... you think a guy that's a journeyman carpenter, electrician, plumber, etc. that's been doing it for 10+ years is just gonna march right on down to fucking Wendy's and apply for a job when he gets laid-off? Fuck no. I know I sure as shit wouldn't. Especially when you got unemployment benefits that YOU PAY INTO. Unemployment is not a hand-out.


Anyway, John Stossel is the biggest troll on Fox, complete piece of shit, and anyone who takes his pieces seriously is probably a fucking idiot.

Here, someone do some photoshop magic with this:
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You are a sucker if you work for minimum wage, IMO

Thats defiantly not true in canada

If you have the ability to make more, and some work ethic, I agree with you.

You can make more doing a couple of clip stores, assuming you approach it like a job (consistent work hours, and days). There are any number of ways to make money online (adult and mainstream) where you can make a few grand a month fairly easily and minimal skills. But without the work ethic, you'll never make it.

Some people prefer to be a worker bee. Not everyone wants to live and die on their sword.

And now those jobs are being done by 3rd World workers. :Oh crap

Anyone counting on the private sector, who shipped the jobs out of the West, to save the West. Is in denial or conning you.

So pay your taxes to support those who choose not to work and stop complaining about how much tax you pay. Not directed at you alone. It's a comment on all those who think it's best to do nothing for more money then working.

Unemployment is for many people a culture. With illegals coming coming in and prepared to work for less, legals prepared to work for less and jobs being shipped out of the West. What is the solution?

Millions doing C4S, will reduce the income of those doing it. So keep telling people BF. :upsidedow

Private Enterprise will reduce Labour or the wage bill, given any opportunity.

Service industries don't often produce a product that can be sold outside the West.

Retail needs customers who earn money.

Financial is risky and we know why.

Maybe an import tax to make the huge amounts of goods we import, that we used to produce, pay towards the unemployment levels. Higher prices in the shops mabe. What ever way those working will have to expect to pay out.

None of them are "government hand outs". We all pay into every social welfare program that we can receive. So does our family and our extended family outwards and backwards to the program(s) beginning.

People who collect on flood insurance.. an insurance company hand out?

People who's banks are FDIC insured.. just waiting for a government hand out?

etc.

"government hand out" is yet another term manufactured to divide us. The words we use make a difference. If you don't like the current emergency benefits programs, you should suggest ideas to your local governments.

Agreed.

Governments in the West have two ways of raising cash, taxes and borrowing. We're learning to our regret the problems of borrowing.

I stop, bend over, and will take the time to pocket a penny. If I needed work I'd work anywhere for any wage, and then upgrade when possible. Hell, I'm even on fiverr creating gigs when I have 5 free minutes just to make $4 I wouldn't have otherwise in a day.

I have no pride that makes me pass on a job. I only have pride that makes me perform the job to the best of my abilities. During my first job at Burger King they had the cleanest toilets you've ever seen and I felt proud that I cleaned them.

Work ethic is everything.

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I think I would turn to a life of crime before I worked for minimum wage.

Last time I had a real job minimum wage was $3.35 an hour and I think I was making around $4.10 an hour working in the parts dept at a dealership. What a fucking joke, work all day long and at the end of the week after taxes you were lucky to have a hundred dollar paycheck. Thank god I quickly learned this was nothing more than legalized slavery and created my own job.

In late 1996 Clinton raised the minimum wage from $4.25 to $5.15 an hour. Republicans fought it tooth and nail claiming it would fuck up the economy, history tells a different story and we experienced the best economy ever.

There's so much lose on this board sometimes it startles me.

Anyways. There's a difference between unemployment benefits (which is insurance you have paid for) and welfare and food stamps and whatever else all the hahaha's collect in the USA.

In the days I did work for somebody else, my total compensation was somewhere north of $115K. I paid out the maximum in premiums every year, and so did my employer.

Of course I'm not going to take a minimum wage job at mcdonalds , I'm going to continue to actively seek work in my chosen field that Im experienced and valuable in. Or find a similar field I can transition to, perhaps at a drop in overall pay for some time.

Working at a minimum wage job when you shouldn't be just fucks everyone up. Your job search doesn't see the effort it should, no employer will touch you if they find out you are flipping burgers, and your interviews will certainly be few and far between if you can't get there 9 - 5 because you are busy bussing tables and sweeping the floor. It also reduces the taxes uncle sam should be earning off a high wage earner to worthless levels. I know online workers in general and porn people in specific don't really understand this unless they were a professional in another life, but finding a job at the higher income brackets takes time, and so does the hiring process even once you've found that job.

So in conclusion, you'd have to be fucking stupid to take a minimum wage job if you're higher qualified. However, that doesn't mean there aren't people who SHOULD be working minimum wage, but don't.

Why did I just see a drill up some white boys ass? :Oh crap

I'm calling OSHA.

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Didn't read thread.
Again, my friend who is on lots of Gov assistance, did go get a job. she work I think 5-7 weeks. They cut 90% of her gov benefits, and now she is making LESS than what the gov was giving her, Plus spending money on gas and in her words wasting 40 hours a week working when she could be doing something else. She got fired and is now back on Gov Assist.
Why work when the Gov gives you more money to stay home....

Very True, but I think most people are talking about the ones who are NOT looking for jobs for 2 years.

Plenty of people game the system. That's nothing new, it's always been that way. In good times or bad.

But what does that couple you saw on Nightline have to do with an honest guy who worked steadily for twenty years before his job was outsourced to India?

If I had to guess, I'd say that there are a hell of a lot more people like him out there right now than the sort of freeloaders you just described.

That sort of thing happens for sure.

A single person with no income gets $200 a month in food stamps. If they got a job that earned them a certain $ amount per month, they lose some of the foodstamp benefit. So basically theres a margin there you have to overcome before it becomes "worth" it in dollars.

Unemployment
 

I once got a cool job that they only needed me for ~6 months a year, working up to 15 hours a day, 7 days a week. They wanted me to take unemployment for the summer so another company wouldn't snatch me up for a "regular" job.

I inquired about a few jobs, thinking I'd just work the summers for another company. Found out I would only get $1 per hour more than my unemployment. I would have been losing money just on gas to work.

a one bedroom min rent is $1400 around here, even very bad neighborhoods. It's around $800, plus other expenses. minimum wage cannot even pay one month of rent. Minimum wage was meant for high school students, and very desperate people. For a career. It's a joke.

Because this is gofuckyourself.com, drills and all...
:D

Then you move to someplace cheaper.

:2 cents:

No, I've never watched Deadliest Catch. Ever. I work for a living and don't watch much TV. (LOL.)

I was under the impression that the maximum you could get in unemployment was $300 a week. Perhaps I'm basing this on what it was in California twenty years ago, the last time I was unemployed. In California it's $450/week, while in Massachusetts it's fucking $939. (Source)

That's a lot more than I thought. Hell, $939 a week is just under what my wife makes.

Sometimes you can afford the move or cheaper are places in the country where there are no jobs at all. Happened to a friend, he moved to rural Indiana. Burger King had 1 minimum wage job opening. About 500 people applied for the job. And this was when here good & bad paying jobs were begging for people.

By the way I just sent you an email. since you're looking for someone to blog.

like where? you mean out of California. out of California is even worse, job like

Oh, I'm sure there are people like this. They need to be moved off the system. Welfare was meant to be a temporary support system for emergencies. It should be limited and should be so little that it encourages people to get off of it. Entire generations shouldn't be raised on welfare and food stamps.

I don't understand people like this. They'll never know what it's like to really live. They'll always live in someone's house, and never have a nice car or go on a nice vacation. What a shame.

I'm sure that applies to some families, but not mine. Not everyone was in a union.

Another difference between now and then is, back then people lived within their means. Life is difficult when you try to live beyond what you can afford.

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Then you have a bunch of hungry desperate people, that's how revolutions start. Not middle class people bitching about paying a little more taxes. Having nothing to lose gives someone alot of freedom.
When you look at the actual percentage it is of overall gov spending its nothing.

Just add more fluoride to the water supply. :winkwink:

People will take a LOT of shit for many, many years before they take to the streets in a serious way. You don't have to look any future than developing nations to see this, where people live in real poverty and suffering. But still, most of them take whatever is dished out to them. Probably has something to do with having your spirit broken and no hope.

That may look harsh but people move to such places for a reason. It's always a cost benefit analysis........

This guy is Goatse.

:thumbsup

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Right and she has 3 children, so she gets
Pays $250 a month for a 5 bedroom house since she is low income.
$200 ish in Cash
$800 Food Stamps
Free Breakfast & Lunch even in the summer for the kids
Free & Reduced school fees
Free Medical -- Always at the ER getting pain pills and selling them
Goes to Local food banks and churches to get all the free food she can to sell food stamps.
Winter time she gets around $1,200 Energy assist
Summer can be from $300-$1,800 depending
Free Childcare
Free Cell Phone
Other things that I just can't think of right now.

She also gets the Child support and Unemployment --
Child Support is fine, just the Unemployment she doesn't even look for a job till it is about to run out!

Respect.

get a job, get a job holding dicks,
whatever you do just get a job

I have no problem blaming ass wipes that abuse any system.

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If someone lies about their income like the drug dealer example you commented on then yea I have a problem. Judging from your attitude about those that abuse taxpayers money it's clear you don't pay your share of taxes.

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"immoral"? The fuck you talking about? Fucking dumb ass. You turn every statement by anyone into something entirely different. Back on ignore. (I feel sorry for anyone you come into contact with in real life)

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No, then you have a bunch of hungry people willing to dig ditches for minimum wage because they are tired of being hungry.

The problem we have - and it's been mentioned here already - is that Americans feel we are entitled. Every high school graduate believes they are above minimum wage and above working in such industries as fast food. I worked fast food for seven years and had a blast doing it. Unless your coming out of high school with four years work experience, your worth only minimum wage - the truth is your worth less but legally no one can pay you less.

Back then one third of the work force was union and it affected all jobs. You try and live in your means on $9 an hr. My grandfather pressed womens coats, he made enough to buy a house my grandmother didnt work and they had four kids. And he paid for two weddings, pressing ladies coats.My brother is a big right winger, he travels alot for work. He is sitting there and the guys behind him are talking on the plane. The one guy is baffled he cant find hoards of people to work for the $10 an hr jobs he has. My brother said he wanted to turn around and say you try living on $10 an hr.

An entitlement mentality is a serious problem. It is linked to many other issues and isn't good for social cohesion in the long run. Also, it erodes competitiveness.