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ninavain 07-29-2012 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Young (Post 19087511)
Saying that ^^^^^ does not make the crazy shit you spout any less crazy...nor does it lend you any more credibility.

I see a lot of conspiracy tin foil wearing wacko's try to distance themselves from Alex Jones and Infowars in an attempt to look sane and reasonable. As if.. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

We know that's where you get your info from, you nut.

so this article i posted w/ multiple links all came from 1 place????....a place I didn't even mention or link in the OP.. god damn you're a fucking dumbass, dude...get it right

ninavain 07-29-2012 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ninavain (Post 19087451)
AAAAND ONCE AGAIN...none of the questions answered

:thumbsup

Young 07-29-2012 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ninavain (Post 19087606)
god damn you're a fucking dumbass, dude...get it right

Oh, the irony.

Si 07-29-2012 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ninavain (Post 19087389)
Paul can you answer my question then.. oh wise one...anybody???


1. 4 jumbo planes crashed and evaporated ( none of the BIG pieces found...they all just disappeared upon impact)
2. Sky scrapers brought by impact or fire..it's never happened before
3. No black boxes found
4. cell phones worked in 2001 on flight 93...how?


1. Tell me why the Fed Res was created in the 1st place
2. Tell me who issues our SS numbers
3. Tell me where does your SS tax payments go to
4. Tell me about the Gold seizure of the 1930's

9/11:

1. There are no "big pieces" to a plane, it is made up of thousands of parts. Also when you consider that what caused the towers to collapse was heat from the burning jet fuel then you could assume the "big pieces" also melted.

2. I'm pretty sure a 50+ tonne plane has never crashed into a sky scraper 10s of storeys high carrying plenty of fuel onboard and exploded upon impact into said building.

3. No black boxes were found? See 1. They were probably destroyed.

4. No idea will have that look that up.

The Fed/Banking stuff:

1. Because a Central bank is more stable than the systems that were previously in place as far as I have read. Still reading up on that.

2. That would be the SSA www.ssa.gov/ haven't read any back story on it yet.

3. Umm to the SSA as far as I know right now. Still looking things up.

4. Never heard of it, again will look it up.

If anyone wants to fill any blanks in feel free.

Slappin Fish 07-29-2012 12:06 PM

The World sits on top a Turtle who sits on top an Elephant...Prove me wrong.

ninavain 07-29-2012 12:34 PM

well you got just about everything wrong.. but that is to be expected
 
oh boy......

DTK 07-29-2012 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ninavain (Post 19087605)
exactly:thumbsup

Likewise you should tone down the 'you're sheep' line of talk. That's more johnny clips' gig, but you do it too. Some people will never accept anything but the official story and they'll ridicule anyone who says otherwise. Either answer with facts or pay them no mind. Others might be willing to look at different views, but the 'sheep' stuff can turn them right off.

Gotta have a thick skin.

TheSquealer 07-29-2012 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DTK (Post 19087673)
Likewise you should tone down the 'you're sheep' line of talk. That's more johnny clips' gig, but you do it too. Some people will never accept anything but the official story and they'll ridicule anyone who says otherwise. Either answer with facts or pay them no mind. Others might be willing to look at different views, but the 'sheep' stuff can turn them right off.

Gotta have a thick skin.

"accepting the official story"?

Give me an example of people "blindly accepting the official story".

Oh... you can't.

Didn't think so.

For some reason I really love this idea that you are either suffering from some form of paranoid related mental disorder, or you're brainwashed and your minds, there is absolutely NOTHING in between.

BlackCrayon 07-29-2012 01:03 PM

like i've said before, these "conspiracy" type people are just sheep of a different color. They absorb the same bs from different mouths without much thought. oh you're so awake and unique..ha.

Paul Markham 07-29-2012 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ninavain (Post 19087389)
Paul can you answer my question then.. oh wise one...anybody???


1. 4 jumbo planes crashed and evaporated ( none of the BIG pieces found...they all just disappeared upon impact)
2. Sky scrapers brought by impact or fire..it's never happened before
3. No black boxes found
4. cell phones worked in 2001 on flight 93...how?


1. Tell me why the Fed Res was created in the 1st place
2. Tell me who issues our SS numbers
3. Tell me where does your SS tax payments go to
4. Tell me about the Gold seizure of the 1930's

OK it's all a massive plot. what have you been doing about it other than posting on GFY and not voting?

2012 07-29-2012 01:11 PM


Slappin Fish 07-29-2012 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ninavain (Post 19087668)
oh boy......

AAAAND ONCE AGAIN... no answers.

You believe the official story by the blatantly biased liberal media and usual crony scientist propagandists??

I'm messing with you but can you see the absurdity of debating with someone who dismisses any counter argument as propaganda and why nobody bothered answering your "questions"?

Slappin Fish 07-29-2012 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 19087693)
like i've said before, these "conspiracy" type people are just sheep of a different color. They absorb the same bs from different mouths without much thought. oh you're so awake and unique..ha.

+1 :thumbsup

DTK 07-29-2012 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19087679)
"accepting the official story"?

Give me an example of people "blindly accepting the official story".

Oh... you can't.

Didn't think so.

For some reason I really love this idea that you are either suffering from some form of paranoid related mental disorder, or you're brainwashed and your minds, there is absolutely NOTHING in between.

You didn't really read what i said. I said SOME people.

Also, at least to me, these things aren't binary "either/or" decisions. life's more complicated than that.

The problem is that it's easy to get lumped in with irrational, egomaniacal, total fucking idiots like johnny clips. What you said in your last paragraph fits him to a T.

V_RocKs 07-29-2012 01:51 PM

so the money ran out. Kid can't finish school. takes it out on the 99% that fucked his father's life up?

ninavain 07-29-2012 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Si (Post 19087626)
9/11:

1. There are no "big pieces" to a plane, it is made up of thousands of parts. Also when you consider that what caused the towers to collapse was heat from the burning jet fuel then you could assume the "big pieces" also melted.

2. I'm pretty sure a 50+ tonne plane has never crashed into a sky scraper 10s of storeys high carrying plenty of fuel onboard and exploded upon impact into said building.

3. No black boxes were found? See 1. They were probably destroyed.

4. No idea will have that look that up.

The Fed/Banking stuff:

1. Because a Central bank is more stable than the systems that were previously in place as far as I have read. Still reading up on that.

2. That would be the SSA www.ssa.gov/ haven't read any back story on it yet.

3. Umm to the SSA as far as I know right now. Still looking things up.

4. Never heard of it, again will look it up.

If anyone wants to fill any blanks in feel free.



ok...here are the answers
1. Jet fuel burns at 500-599 °F / Steel often melts at around 1370 degrees C (2500 °F)
simple math and facts..nothing more..but out of 4 crashes in 1 day..not one scene looked like this http://top-10-list.org/wp-content/up...rife-crash.jpg so no evidence to be found..including bodies..even though a paper passport from one of the Hi-jackers was found..are you expecting me to believe THAT? But ok the jet fuel evaporated everything and what was left over was quickly hauled off...so no investigations ...ok got it.. plus the buildings came down in 10 secs w/ out swaying to the left or right.. pretty hard for that to happen w/out structural tampering ( just my opinion and some science)


2. Building have been hit by planes...building have been on fire for more than 24 hours...no collapse after less than 1 hour


burning building in Moscow


China building left to burn for DAYS!!! "Many buildings have burned like this and even worse, some left to burn for days yet no building has ever collapsed due to fire until september 11 2001 when 3 fell down after just burning mildly for a couple of hours."


3. All 4 black boxes evaporated in 600F heat. Black boxes are made of a special alloy( some of that alloy is used in Space travel) called Inconel..What is it? Iconel refers to a trademark of products made from austenitic nickel-chromium super alloys used under very high temperatures. The Iconel 601 round bar falls under this categorylike a glove. Immediately, you should know that the iconel 601 round bars is the choice of companies who work with hot metals. Inco is the shortened term so if you hear this term, know that it?s one and the same. This alloy was first introduced around the 1940s in England. It was developed to be used in the jet engine. The reason it had to be made was because jet engines get extremely hot and can easily melt or burn almost anything in seconds.
The alloy can withstand high heat and reacts by producing a thick oxide layer that prevents the entire product from being consumed by the heat, getting distorted, or just collapsing under the high temperature.
In rarer cases, this alloy was the main ingredient in rocket engines used for space travel. If you have heard of the ?black box? of airplanes, you know this the final source of information of what went on inside a cockpit before an accident. This black box is made of this specific alloy. Have you ever heard of a block box that melted under the extreme heat of an airplane accident? They don?t even if they get beat up badly.
Needless to say, the inconel alloy is one of the most important products to come out of the 40s. Even if the alloy may have gone through changes to make it stronger, it?s generally an under-rated product outside of the industry.

so it's highly unlikely that 4 black boxes melted away in thin air like the rest of the planes, seats luggage, fuselage

4. Yea we don't know why and how there were so many cellphone calls from the plane back in 2001
http://911research.wtc7.net/planes/a...honecalls.html



BANKING
1. When you say" central Banks, are you saying the Central banks of London?
( who owns the FEDERAL RESERVE that LOANS the US money w/interest) private people..very rich power people own the FED...which in some reality owns US

2. Social Security Numbers are issued by the UN through the IMF.

The application for an SSN is the SS5 form. The Department of the Treasury (IMF) issues the SS5, not the ?Social Security Administration. The new SS5 forms do not state who publishes them while the old form states they are Department of Treasury. 20 CFR Chap. 111 Subpart B 422.103 (b)

3. The IRS is NOT a U.S. Government Agency. It is an Agency of the IMF. Diversified Metal Products v IRS et al. CV-93-405E-EJE U.S.D.C.I. Public Law 94-564 Senate Report 94-1148, pg 5967 Reor ganization Plan #26 Public Law 102-391
Your hard earned money ( the SS part) goes to paying back the LOAN from the central Banks with interest

4. The Gold Confiscation Of April 5, 1933
From: President of the United States Franklin Delano Roosevelt
To: The United States Congress
Dated: 5 April, 1933
Presidential Executive Order 6102

Section 9. Whoever willfully violates any provision of this Executive Order or these regulation or of any rule, regulation or license issued there under may be fined not more than $10,000, or,if a natural person may be imprisoned for not more than ten years or both; and any officer, director, or agent of any corporation who knowingly participates in any such violation may be punished by a like fine, imprisonment, or both.

http://www.the-privateer.com/1933-go...fiscation.html

extra food for thought
http://truth11.com/2011/02/02/thirty...about-america/


no conspiracy thrown in...just factual events ...any man with a shred of common sense, would at least question some of the findings

Si 07-29-2012 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ninavain (Post 19087668)
oh boy......

Well, step 2 for your "big pieces of plane" arguement is bound to be that the towers were destroyed by a controlled demo.

If that were true, there is likely more chance of "big pieces of plane" being found if that were case.

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Ok the planes have hit the towers, now give it some time and we will set off the charges/thermite whatever and bring these things down.
Just an example, they do that and the tower(s) begins to fall. The planes that crashed into the building would be nicely packaged inside that collapsed tower because apparently it wasn't spewing out hundreds of degrees of temperature which caused the towers to collapse, oh no it was demolished on purpose wasn't it?

Therefor there wouldn't be any heat that can melt metals such as steel.

Pretty simple logic to me.

Either there was heat that melted steel, because of the fuel on the planes, and the resulting heat meant the planes were totally fucked and this all caused the towers to come crashing down.

Or the demolition was the true cause in which case 2 nicely sandwiched planes would have come along with buildings and left wreckage in the pile of rubble more easily.

Think about it, If I throw a hot dog into a fire it will eventually become ash leaving behind only perhaps some small trace elements that it was there.

Or, I could crush a hot dog under force of a flat object in which case the hot dog would still be there but in very very bad shape.

DTK 07-29-2012 02:04 PM

When it comes to 9/11, we just need a new indepenent investigation. It's been well documented that the bush administration and the pentagon were far less than cooperative, and the members of the investigation panel have said they felt lied to and deceived throughout the process.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...080101300.html

ninavain 07-29-2012 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DTK (Post 19087763)
When it comes to 9/11, we just need a new indepenent investigation. It's been well documented that the bush administration and the pentagon were far less than cooperative, and the members of the investigation panel have said they felt lied to and deceived throughout the process.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...080101300.html

and that is an understatement

2012 07-29-2012 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DTK (Post 19087763)
When it comes to 9/11, we just need a new indepenent investigation. It's been well documented that the bush administration and the pentagon were far less than cooperative, and the members of the investigation panel have said they felt lied to and deceived throughout the process.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...080101300.html

and the "crime scene" was immediately removed ?

planes hit, cleanup, that's it, here's the story - shut the fuck up:2 cents:

ninavain 07-29-2012 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Si (Post 19087761)
Well, step 2 for your "big pieces of plane" arguement is bound to be that the towers were destroyed by a controlled demo.

If that were true, there is likely more chance of "big pieces of plane" being found if that were case.



Just an example, they do that and the tower(s) begins to fall. The planes that crashed into the building would be nicely packaged inside that collapsed tower because apparently it wasn't spewing out hundreds of degrees of temperature which caused the towers to collapse, oh no it was demolished on purpose wasn't it?

Therefor there wouldn't be any heat that can melt metals such as steel.

Pretty simple logic to me.

Either there was heat that melted steel, because of the fuel on the planes, and the resulting heat meant the planes were totally fucked and this all caused the towers to come crashing down.

Or the demolition was the true cause in which case 2 nicely sandwiched planes would have come along with buildings and left wreckage in the pile of rubble more easily.

Think about it, If I throw a hot dog into a fire it will eventually become ash leaving behind only perhaps some small trace elements that it was there.

Or, I could crush a hot dog under force of a flat object in which case the hot dog would still be there but in very very bad shape.

and Tower 7 came down , how?

and what about the other 2 planes?


look I'll give you 1 or two planes.. maybe even three... but 4 planes all evaporating along with the black boxes??? You're asking me to drink way too much Kool-aid chief

ninavain 07-29-2012 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 2012 (Post 19087770)
and the "crime scene" was immediately removed ?

planes hit, cleanup, that's it, here's the story - shut the fuck up:2 cents:

touche' :thumbsup

and if you question the story we fed you...you're a looney..forget science and logic

on this day..Steel burns and melts away...but paper lasts

ninavain 07-29-2012 02:19 PM

If it's possible to believe a paper passport fell to the ground unscathed .. wouldn't it be possible to not believe the story given.. just sayin'

beerptrol 07-29-2012 02:36 PM

Must be something in the Colorado Kool-Aid or to much of it!

Gozarian 07-29-2012 02:59 PM

Damn it must be painful being you. Clearly far too much time on your hands and a serious lack of sex in your life. Your conspiracy mongering tripe reveals an unhinged nature, any pretense to the contrary is simply delusional. The more you babble the more you look like the anti-intellectual fruitcake you really are.

If the Bush administration was so sophisticated and intelligent that they put a conspiracy to murder thousands of people; said conspiracy involving thousands of people and thousands of man-hours; and then put it together in their first eight months in office; then why were they unable to shut the mouths of YouTube geeks and truther miscreants that were/are “exposing the truth” to the government's detriment. Doesn’t the fact these people, such as yourself, exist prove the non-existance of the conspirators?

Get a fucking life!! on ignore

ninavain 07-29-2012 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Gozarian (Post 19087816)
Damn it must be painful being you. Clearly far too much time on your hands and a serious lack of sex in your life. Your conspiracy mongering tripe reveals an unhinged nature, any pretense to the contrary is simply delusional. The more you babble the more you look like the anti-intellectual fruitcake you really are.

If the Bush administration was so sophisticated and intelligent that they put a conspiracy to murder thousands of people; said conspiracy involving thousands of people and thousands of man-hours; and then put it together in their first eight months in office; then why were they unable to shut the mouths of YouTube geeks and truther miscreants that were/are “exposing the truth” to the government's detriment. Doesn’t the fact these people, such as yourself, exist prove the non-existance of the conspirators?

Get a fucking life!! on ignore

you go get a life, bitch

Gozarian 07-29-2012 03:07 PM

you are funny darling but nuts :))

DBS.US 07-29-2012 03:23 PM

http://mtnweekly.com/wp-content/uplo...port-mural.jpg

Si 07-29-2012 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ninavain (Post 19087772)
and Tower 7 came down , how?

and what about the other 2 planes?


look I'll give you 1 or two planes.. maybe even three... but 4 planes all evaporating along with the black boxes??? You're asking me to drink way too much Kool-aid chief

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Originally Posted by ninavain (Post 19087783)
If it's possible to believe a paper passport fell to the ground unscathed .. wouldn't it be possible to not believe the story given.. just sayin'

Tower 7 caught fire and suffered huge damage from debris, it was also constructed differently to building 5&6 which were also damaged but did not catch fire.

There is plenty of videos on youtube showing tons of damage to building 7, the collapse does look odd to me though for where the damage actually was, still haven't formed a judgement on that part.

3rd plane was the pentagon one, that is kind of fuzzy also, haven't really looked into all that much detail of the pentagon incident. I see videos with debris of planes but a hole in the building. Where did the plane debris come from? Off the missile?

http://www.911myths.com/index.php/Image:P911_fdr.jpg
http://www.911myths.com/index.php/Image:P911_fdr.jpg

There is apparently one of your missing boxes. Just found this site http://www.911myths.com

Si 07-29-2012 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 19087859)
Watch the video of Building 7 collapsing. That is clearly a controlled demolition or are you just too brainwashed to acknowledge the obvious?

The mere fact that I am still questioning the event, means I must not be brainwashed.

Gozarian 07-29-2012 04:44 PM

Johnny you are fucking nuts too! Get a clue and a life bat shit crazy. Another moron at the infamous zoo on ignore

theking 07-29-2012 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ninavain (Post 19087775)
touche' :thumbsup

and if you question the story we fed you...you're a looney..forget science and logic

on this day..Steel burns and melts away...but paper lasts

Wrong...it is not that "you question the story" that makes you a loony...it is the conclusions you come to that makes you a looney.

TheSquealer 07-29-2012 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 19087858)
They slaughtered 1 million Iraqis...and if you mention this you're called a conspiracy theorists.

Any example of that?

No again?

Cool. Thanks for playing.

Paul Markham 07-29-2012 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ninavain (Post 19087783)
If it's possible to believe a paper passport fell to the ground unscathed .. wouldn't it be possible to not believe the story given.. just sayin'

Once again Nina.

OK it's all a massive plot. What have you been doing about it other than posting on GFY and not voting?

Because thinking it's all a big plot and doing nothing is a sign of your weakness.

topsiteking 07-30-2012 01:46 AM

Just in time for a vote on the UN small arms treaty seems kinda odd..
Watch what eyewitness accounts saw at:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=yoPqz...ayer_embedded#!
And:
http://bcove.me/bwrqdw7y


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