To be clear: I HATE ASSHOLES WHO SELL RANDOM MEAT FROM A TRUCK.

Did you get that part? You are no different than the losers who sell speakers from the back of a white van.

If I want meat I want dry aged, USDA PRIME steaks, cut by a guy I know at my local grocery and sold to me fresh and ready to grill. I want to pick out exactly the cuts I want, marbled through with delicious beef fat and no more than few days away from mooing and eating grass.

What are you selling? Oh, right; unknown, rock hard, flash frozen bricks of crap from who knows where.

NOT INTERESTED.

Peddle that shit to heavily armed rubes.

"he stepped on my property, he trespassed, I’ll kill anybody that steps on my property."
Sounds fair to me.

Kenneth Bailey Roop = Hero.

This is AMERICA.

"...as Rainey lay on the ground, Roop fired another bullet into the back of his head."

Do you side with him on this one too?

Sure, why not. The dude was already dead, why not make a point?

You are missing one thing here - yes the dude is crazy. HE WARNED EVERYONE THAT HE WAS CRAZY.

If you fuck with a crazy dude and you get shot, you deserve it.

It's pretty simple: what does NO TRESPASSING mean?

It means, very clearly, "STAY OFF MY LAND OR YOU GET WHAT YOU GET."

Didn't miss anything.

Was an honest question, I'd rather someone come out and say : "I want guns even if it leads to a more violent society" like you're doing, than the invading army bullshit excuses people come up with.

Actually I think gun nuts are...well...nuts. Just look at the ones that post here. I don't even think most cops should carry guns, they'd be a lot more fucking polite. Isn't that how it works in the UK - beat cops are unarmed and they have 'gun squads' when necessary?

But, in this case, I also very much believe in personal responsibility: you fuck with the bull, you get the horns. Or a few rounds of 38 spesh in your important organs.

Also, hate door to door salesmen.

So you are saying that 3 signs ignored = death penalty?

Fantastic!

Let's do this. We can put snipers on the streets. If you are speeding and you drive past three different posted speed signs, you ignored three clear signs that you are speeding and breaking the law, the sniper then takes you out. Sound good?

That's utterly illogical, and not how it works. If you ignore a speed limit sign you get a ticket. Everyone knows that. THAT is the law.

If you ignore a sign put up by a crazy dude, you get what you get.

Just so I am clear.

In your mind flying down the highway speeding should be punished by a ticket.

Ignoring trespassing signs, yet doing no harm, should be punished by death.

Am I correct?

Personally don't mind violence.

I just dislike the hypocrisy of guns make the world a safer place argument.

Fair enough :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh death sentence might be a little harsh though :winkwink:

No, not at all.

I think if you ignore warnings and take your life in your hands you get what you get. I absolutely agree that the old coot overreacted. HOWEVER, he really had every right to.

Look at it from the old man's perspective: he was scared of something...probably nigras from Obama's secret Kenyan army stealing the gold he bought from the Glenn Beck radio show. Whatever.

He clearly warned people: stay away. Do not come on my property. Not with a little sign he could use as a technicality, multiple signs, at all entrances to the property.

So he comes home and thinks, "WHAT THE FUCK? There's a guy trespassing even tho I have clearly stated I have a zero tolerance policy for trespassing. If this guy is this brazen HE MUST WANT ALLA MY GLENN BECK GOLD AND HE GONNA KILL ME!!!!!"

I will bet you a cool million that had the guy stood on the sidewalk and politely inquired if the old coot wanted some nasty ass steaks, that he'd be alive today. He is dead because he ignored a clear warning.

And remember - he did NOT open fire on the salesman's partner who was sitting in the truck.

I believe it's actually 'turn yo punk ass ova'. What a classic scene.

While I too hate people that come to your door trying to sell you stuff and agree that the guy did trespass when it was posted to stay out, to me that is not a death penalty kind of crime. Did the steak guy lunge at him? Did he threaten him? What went down before he shot him? It sure doesn't sound like it. He wasn't even wearing a hoodie and carrying skittles. If somehow there was a fight I could understand why he shot him, but just to find someone on your property after you have posted no trespassing shouldn't give you the right to kill them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_doctrine

As far as the crazy old coot was concerned, ignoring multiple, obvious NO TRESPASSING signs was an aggressive act, and in his mind he acted appropriately.

The bottom line here is that while tragic and an obvious over reaction by an unbalanced person, the victim has absolutely no argument: had he not trespassed, ignoring multiple warning's, he'd be alive today and shilling his meat on another block.

Can you dispute that?

I bet he was a Tea Party supporter..

ok...so...this guy in florida is a fucking nutjob.

and so is anyone who supports what he did.

so what's your suggestion? punish the majority? the gun owners that follow the law. there is no way to predict it because their law abiding citizens. if its not guns they fill figure a way. :2 cents: and the options are far worse that a gun. look up the oklahoma bombing

:1orglaugh

Yes. But the likelihood of them encountering a member of the public with a gun is slim here.

i am just shaking my head in disbelieve...

Wrong you sociopathical prick, he didnt have every right to do so. What the fuck is wrong with some of you.

Actually he didn't shoot the salesman friend because the off duty cop showed while he was reloading. I actually looked by trespassing in a legal dictionary and going. Up to ask if u want to buy meat isn't it. Now after he was told no he didn't leave that's trespassing.

You don't sound too stable yourself, please step back from laptop....

If the guy who was killed was a friend, or a family member, I would gather a few
door-to-door bullet salesmen together, and revisit this asshole for one final sales pitch.

Not interested in bullets today, how about a few molotov cocktails then?

I just hope for your fellow citizens that you DO NOT own a gun or firearm .... :2 cents:

usa! usa! usa! seriously, shoot yourself everyone who have gun in your state or freedom

I was going to say people are a lot more welcoming in Russia for example and won't shoot you for standing on their lawn (like Florida, Texas) but "molotov cocktails" is how they would deal!!!! Payback is a bitch.

I bet I saw a number of posts made by these "the neighborhood crazy" guys right here on GFY :disgust

I'd bet the farm that he was listening to Limbaugh on his way home and his blood was boiling by the time he got there due to having a commie muslim president.

i love america for this law! fuck yeah america!!!

What law?

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/387...ed0f2f9e0z.jpg

Yo ese, wanna buy some fine meat?

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Meat back of truck is a common thing in America? I have never seen or heard of this in Oh Canada.

WTF is going on in america these days

man your in the DR :helpme im not going to say anymore in here its pointless some of you dont even live in the united states. :2 cents:

You're spot on, guns don't kill people. People do. So certify the person is responsible to own one first.

Scared you might not pass the test?

You're missing the point.

This crazy dude shouldn't have a gun.

THIS IS AMERICA!

Everyone can have a gun.

(Except felons.)